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Kevin is back up

I guess after rereading what you posted the major reason is that the guys who initially wrote all the rules for this before we changed things kind of set that as one of the parameters.

I think it's Up For Debate and something that could be definitely changed. I would love to have an alternate reality where Gino Hernandez doesn't die in 3 months. That's kind of why I picked up at area just to hold on to him that when he got out of prison and I could utilize him. I think that if we have enough people that agree to maybe change the instances outside of death for inactive, I'd be cool with doing that.

He has a look for sure and some skills. I looked back at the NCAA wrestling tournaments from this time and he and his brother didn't compete very well... Dr. Death though did some serious work.

I really like the format with the discussion from Tony and the wrestlers throughout. This is easy to read and easy to follow. You will have a lot of moving pieces with your roster over the next couple of weeks but Starrcade will be something to behold.

Pick has been made and the ball is rolling. Slept in till 8 today fellas...sorry for the tardiness

The big booty daddy...in 12 years Scott Steiner comes to the WWF. Kevin is up

Draft is continuous then. I'm go make the first pick

Draft thread is good to go... One idea to think of... I have 4 rounds... but would anyone have interest to keep the draft going as much as someone would like? For example... if a person would to want this option they would more than likely pick last in the 1987 draft... but the reward would be to re-pick your roster for the most part from all of the options available. Now the kicker would be that you can't use them until January 1st... but come that date... all the individuals you drafted would be yours and then you would just need to make your cap of 50. This would be relinquishing other wrestlers on your roster but really shaking things up and allowing individuals to pick from what we have so we don't have the free agent hassles after. What do you guys think?

1986 Fresh Face Draft WWF - Low Blow Scott Steiner UWF - Kevin Jerry Lawler Ron Simmons Ricky Morton The Warlord Robert Gibson Jeff Jarrett Lutte - Edgar Adrian Adonis Paul Heyman Chris Candido Brian Knobbs Jerry Saggs AWA - Rain Leon Vader White Flyin Brian Pillman Doug Furnas Maxx Payne Scorpio Dave Taylor Mr. Saito Jeff Gaylord Beef Wellington World Class - Gene Brian Adams Jack Victory Doug Gilbert WWC - Dawho5 TNT (Savio Vega) Mike Davis Tommy Lane MACW - Spaldoni Tom Prichard Norvell Austin Skip Young Round 1 WWF - Low Blow - Scott Steiner USWA - Kevin - Jerry Lawler Lutte - Edgar - TRADED TO USWA - Ron Simmons AWA - Rain - Leon White World Class - Gene - TRADED TO USWA - TRADED TO AWA - Flying Brian Pillman WWC - Dawho5 - TNT (Savio Vega) MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA - Ricky Morton Round 2 WWF - Low Blow - DROPS USWA - Kevin - The Warlord Lutte - Edgar - Adrian Adonis AWA - Rain - Doug Furnas World Class - Gene - TRADED TO AWA - Maxx Payne WWC - Dawho5 - TRADED TO AWA - Scorpio MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA - Robert Gibson Round 3 USWA - Kevin - Jeff Jarrett Lutte - Edgar - Paul Heyman AWA - Rain - Dave Taylor World Class - Gene - Brian Adams WWC - Dawho5 - TRADED TO AWA - Masa Saito MACW - Spaldoni - Tom Prichard Round 4 Lutte - Edgar - Chris Candido AWA - Rain - Jeff Gaylord World Class - Gene - Jack Victory WWC - Dawho5 - Mike Davis MACW - Spaldoni - Norvell Austin Round 5 Lutte - Edgar - Jerry Saggs AWA - Rain - Biff Wellington World Class - Gene - Doug Gilbert WWC - Dawho5 - Tommy Lane MACW - Spaldoni - Skip Young Round 6 Lutte - Edgar - Brian Knobbs AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 7 AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Chris Youngblood Sivi Afa Action Jackson Alex Rizzo Axl Rotten
 Brian Armstrong Bruce Prichard Charles Robinson Chris Evans
 Chuck Coates
 Cody Michaels
 Curtis Thompson
 Emily Dole John Laurinaitis Mark Star Ranger Ross Ray Odyssey Red Tyler
 Reggie Bennett
 Reibun Amada
 Rikki Nelson
 Rockin' Robin
 Ron Powers
 Scott Putski Selina Majors
 Steve Blackman Super Parka Todd Champion Wayne Bloom Oliver Humperdink Slick Bart Batten Brad Batten From Radical Wrestling Denny Brown George Weingroff Goldie Rogers Jack Armstrong Keith Larson King Cobra Lord Humongous Mike Starbuck Pat Kelly Rudy Diamond Steve Pardee Superfly Tui Selinga Super Samoan Sakalia Tarus Bulba (Juan Reynosa) Tony Parisi Tony St. Clair From PR Brad Rhenigans Bulldog Bob Brown Damien Kane Don Carson Don Running Bear Frank Starr Hercules Ayala Joe Lightfoot Joe Salvodi Mike George Mike Hammer Mr. Hito Mr. Pogo Omar Atlas Phil Apollo Rick Renslow Ron Ellis Salvatore Bellomo Steve Simpson Tarzan Goto Tony Stetson Valente Fernandez From Central States Art Crews Ben Bassarab Buck Zumhofe Buzz Tyler Gary Royal Kelly Kiniski Nick Kiniski Tiger Conway Jr. Marty Jones Magic Dragon Frankie Laine John Richmond Bob Della Sorra Gino Della Sorra Denis Goulet Tito Sansa Dominick DeNouchi Lanny Poffo Spike Huber Brett Wayne Sawyer Plowboy Frazier JR Foley.(Manager) Jimmy Valiant "Dream Machine" Troy Graham From Smokey Mountain Brian Adias Ricky Vaughan (Lance Von Erich) Ken Lucas Tim Horner Phil Hickerson Vinnie Valentino Javier Cruz Johnny Rich Davey Rich Don Kernodle Don Bass Dirty Rhodes Mongolian Stomper Hiro saito Ken Timbs Billy Travis Pat Rose Boomer Lynch Jimmy Del Ray The Flame Mike Jackson Larry Hamiton Josh Stroud Steven Dunn Tony Falk Ron Wright 1987 Fresh Face Draft Order WWF - Low Blow UWF - Kevin

I continue to enjoy the use of Sting here and how it mirrored what he was like at this stage in his career IRL. It is good to put a guy like him with others to help move things along. I am also happy to see John Studd utilized in a big way here... he is a talent and a name and deserves to be a top dog.

I know there's going to be a lot of movement... please keep track of your rosters and come January 1st, send me the most up to date lists after the draft.

Kevin, I think we've have all said we don't want you to quit. I have sent you a PM on the topic and said it on here. I would discourage any kind of cleaning house trades as it is counter productive to the overall movement of the project. I think that this draft has been a major issue from the get go with all those involved to be drafted and so on... the sooner it is finished the sooner we can get back to business. I don't even want to wait till Sunday to put this thing in the rearview mirror but will so we can all move forward...

I am good to go when others are... just chime in here if you're ready.

At this point here is the draft order... 1986 Fresh Face Draft WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 1 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar - TRADED TO USWA AWA - Rain World Class - Gene - TRADED TO USWA WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA Round 2 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene - TRADED TO AWA WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA Round 3 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 4 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni If any changes happen over the weekend I will do work and put it together. We will start the draft on Monday morning... if there is a call to start it earlier, we can do so as to get it done. We can prolly do a 12 hour cap between picks... shouldn't be that bad and we should finish within a couple of days. Remember the elimination rules of the draft... Once you "quit" the draft, the order by which everyone quits designates the order for the next years draft... but you must quit on your draft pick. (i.e. Someone with a 4th round pick only cannot just quit at the beginning and get first pick in the next draft) One thing to remember... rookies drafted are not available on your roster until January 1st. The freelancers will finish their freelance dates and then be fully yours on January 1st. Any questions, let me know.

WWF Presents: Wrestling Challenge Hosted By: Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby the Brain Heenan Matches from: St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium Curt Hennig defeated Johnny Blaze Manny Fernandez defeated Kenny Wallace The Mercenaries w/ Mr. Fuji defeated Rob Wright & Ken Star The Fantastics defeated Ryan & Mark Green MAIN EVENT Barry Windham vs The Honky Tonk Man w/ Jimmy Hart -A great main event here for Challenge but ends up in kind of a cluster. Rick Rude comes out and is trying to taunt Windham the entire time. Brutus Beefcake comes out as he has been having a tough time with Honky and the Hart family as of late to try and even the odds and before too long this one breaks loose. We get a big two on two battle in the ring before Bobby Heenan is shown walking to the ring with KING KONG BUNDY! Bundy comes in and he hammers Windham from behind. Here comes Greg Valentine to help and it is 4 on 2 with Brutus and Windham getting beaten down! The crowd is white hot for the return of Bundy and now it looks like the Heenan Family is stronger than ever with Bundy, Rude, & Gino! SNME REPORT: MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © vs Gino Hernandez w/ Bobby Heenan WWF TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Demolition vs The Fabulous Ones © w/ Jimmy Hart Barry Windham vs Ravishing Rick Rude w/ Bobby Heenan Tito Santana’s Team vs Randy Savage’s Team in a 5 on 5 special challenge Gino Hernandez: I can only laugh when it comes to SNME and the possibility of you walking out with the WWF Championship Hogan. I will go up front and let it be known that Dibiase did send some money my way to put you out… and it was enough to buy a new Corvette. Well I was riding in that the other night and I got to thinking about how nice it would be to have that title around my waist. Now I have told Bobby Heenan… Gino Hernandez is in business for himself at this point. I am going to put everything on the Handsome Half-Breed and in this game of Roulette it is you Hogan who is going to roll SNAKE EYES! Hulk Hogan: I guess a lot of people are already tuned in and turned up to this match Hernandez and I can’t help but wonder just what you could possibly do to try and put me down. You see I have been in there with the biggest and the baddest but you amigo are something different. I have looked over everything and know that you will go low to get the W but brother… don’t tempt me to go low too. I will dig down and do whatever it takes to keep this WWF Championship. On NBC and SNME… I am coming for you brother. I am not the hunted but I am the HUNTER and you are the biggest game and whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania strikes on you! WWF Presents: Superstars of Wrestling Hosted By: Vince McMahon & Jesse ‘ The Body’ Ventura Matches from: St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium The Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff w/ Freddie Blassie defeated John Shaw & Zion Felts Dino Bravo defeated Mike Micheals Jim Powers & Paul Roma defeated Ned Fredricks & Bobby Brown Ted Dibiase w/ Big Bossman defeated Jack Morris MAIN EVENT Barry Windham vs The Honky Tonk Man w/ Jimmy Hart -A great main event here for Challenge but ends up in kind of a cluster. Rick Rude comes out and is trying to taunt Windham the entire time. Brutus Beefcake comes out as he has been having a tough time with Honky and the Hart family as of late to try and even the odds and before too long this one breaks loose. We get a big two on two battle in the ring before Bobby Heenan is shown walking to the ring with KING KONG BUNDY! Bundy comes in and he hammers Windham from behind. Here comes Greg Valentine to help and it is 4 on 2 with Brutus and Windham getting beaten down! The crowd is white hot for the return of Bundy and now it looks like the Heenan Family is stronger than ever with Bundy, Rude, & Gino! The Body Shop w/ Tito Santana & Randy Savage -Jesse starts by putting over last week’s picks and talking about the size of the One Man Gang and Andre the Giant but both men have to pick something that will help them survive over the long haul if one of these men get hurt… Tito Santana: You see Randy Savage… I am working with my partner to pick the best team and we believe we’ve done that. You see we want all the way to the Pacific Northwest and we are welcoming Billy Jack Haynes to the team! ARRRIBA! Randy Savage: For being a good competitor in the ring you are just a very unwise individual Tito Santana… especially to take the advice of Andre the Giant. We know he is big but that doesn’t mean he’s smart. You see… this Intercontinental Championship has been around my waist for almost one year now and brother it isn’t going anywhere. That’s because I have got the brains and I have got the brute and brother I have got the brawn with my next pick… he is returning to the WWF with his manager Mr. Fuji… the Magnificent Don Muraco! -Jesse gives Savage the edge here and puts over how Muraco could beat Billy Jack with his eyes closed and also talks about the help that Mr. Fuji will bring to the team! Next week these two will pick the final two team members… will there be some new talent that could shift the tide!?!?

All set

That is your choice. I do not want you to quit as you are a vital piece to the puzzle, I just want to make sure that everyone is playing on the same field, especially with a new writer inheriting a lot of intangibles with a promotion the size of MACW.

I just don't want to see anyone (especially a new writer) manipulated in any way (by losing draft picks). I spoke with Spaldoni, we discussed the trade, he said he understood and was good with it. The draft is essential to have individuals gather new talent. This is how they build that talent to possibly trade in the future or make as a homemade star. When individuals lose those picks for one reason or another it diminishes some of that opportunity. I know for me, I didn't take any rookies last year... I drafted Andre. Since then, I have worked out a way to get a rookie Sting, someone I am excited about using and building along with other rookies. That is the bigger picture part of the game, the longevity of creating a sense of ownership to the roster with the rookies and fresh faces. If individuals lose out on those, then we could have ramifications in the long run. This is not a personal issue with you, rather the entirety of running a project and trying to make it as equitable as possible for all parties involved to help create a sense of creativity and encourage longer activity.

1986 Fresh Face Draft WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 1 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar - TRADED TO USWA AWA - Rain World Class - Gene - TRADED TO USWA WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA Round 2 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene - TRADED TO AWA WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA Round 3 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 4 WWF - Low Blow USWA - Kevin Lutte - Edgar AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Fresh Faces & Japan defections Adrian Adonis Jerry Lawler Chris Youngblood Robert Gibson Ricky Morton Sivi Afa Action Jackson Alex Rizzo Axl Rotten
 Biff Wellington Brian Adams Brian Armstrong Brian Pillman
 Bruce Prichard Charles Robinson Chris Candido
 Chris Evans
 Chuck Coates
 Cody Michaels
 Curtis Thompson
 Doug Furnas
 Douglas Gilbert
 Emily Dole Jeff Jarrett John Laurinaitis Leon White Mark Star Maxx Payne Paul Heyman Ranger Ross Ray Odyssey Red Tyler
 Reggie Bennett
 Reibun Amada
 Rikki Nelson
 Rockin' Robin
 Ron Powers
 Ron Simmons
 Savio Vega
 Scott Putski Scott Steiner Selina Majors
 Steve Blackman Super Parka The Warlord
 Todd Champion Wayne Bloom Oliver Humperdink Slick Bart Batten Brad Batten From Radical Wrestling Denny Brown George Weingroff Goldie Rogers Jack Armstrong Gentleman Jim Holliday - Non-Wrestler Keith Larson King Cobra KY Wakamatsu - Non-Wrestler Lord Humongous Mike Starbuck Pat Kelly Rudy Diamond Steve Pardee Superfly Tui Selinga Super Samoan Sakalia Tarus Bulba (Juan Reynosa) Tony Parisi Tony St. Clair From PR Brad Rhenigans Bulldog Bob Brown Damien Kane Don Carson Don Running Bear Frank Starr Hercules Ayala Jeff Gaylord Joe Lightfoot Joe Salvodi Mike George Mike Hammer Mr. Hito Mr. Pogo Omar Atlas Phil Apollo Rick Renslow Ron Ellis Salvatore Bellomo Steve Simpson Tarzan Goto Tony Stetson Valente Fernandez From Central States Art Crews Ben Bassarab Buck Zumhofe Buzz Tyler Dave Taylor Gary Royal Kelly Kiniski Nick Kiniski Tiger Conway Jr. Marty Jones Magic Dragon Frankie Laine John Richmond Bob Della Sorra Gino Della Sorra Denis Goulet Tito Sansa Norvell Austin Dominick DeNouchi Mr Saito (Prison) "Sweet Brown Sugar" Skip Young Lanny Poffo Spike Huber Brett Wayne Sawyer Plowboy Frazier JR Foley.(Manager) Jimmy Valiant "Dream Machine" Troy Graham Jack Victory From Smokey Mountain Brian Adias Ricky Vaughan (Lance Von Erich) Ken Lucas Tim Horner Phil Hickerson Tom Pritchard Vinnie Valentino Javier Cruz Johnny Rich Davey Rich Don Kernodle Don Bass Dirty Rhodes Mongolian Stomper Hiro saito Tommy Lane Mike Davis Ken Timbs Scorpio Billy Travis Pat Rose Boomer Lynch Jimmy Del Ray Jeff Sword Doug Vines The Flame Mike Jackson Larry Hamiton Josh Stroud Steven Dunn Tony Falk Manager - Ron Wright

Two wrestlers for a wrestler and two draft picks... Along with a manager... I'll go ahead and admit everyone has their choice with trades but this is one-sided.

WCW October 1990 to May 1991 Saturday Night is pretty good along with some Main Events sprinkled in as follow ups to angles and matches that are promoted. I am sure with the Dangerous Alliance coming up (Just getting to October), the television will continue to improve with all of them involved.

The trade put Baby Doll on the MACW roster. That's where she belongs based off of that. Why should Spaldoni lose her because Fenton left? I know you feel short changed here. Like I stated earlier... The trade with him for the pick becomes null since he left the game. His roster did not leave the game. If Spaldoni wants to give you Baby Doll that's his call... But that trade went through and then he left. That's a process we have kept since the beginning.

Right now we are looking at next Monday December 11th.

I thought it was fair enough that I gave you the World Class trade back. Initially that should be a MACW pick since you guys traded draft spots. If we want to go the Baby Doll route, then that pick should go back to Gene or to Spaldoni. I know the risk with trade stuff sucks but this is the best way to be consistent if something goes through.