El McKell

I think they're all time greats. But what's interesting about this to me about this is that if this thread existed at r/squared circle and someone said Michaels and Angle were divisive everyone would wonder what you're talking about. I'm in that middle ground when it comes to Brody, he doesn't sell which is annoying but from what I've seen he's not terrible, but he's far away from being some kind of all time great.

The person I'd put at the top of that list would be Bull Nakano

I finally have a real top ten that I'm actually happy with, so just 90 more positions to decide on (or 89 cos I've got CM Punk slotted at 11) also this list may change as I keep watching stuff Shawn Michaels Kenta Kobashi Ric Flair Mitsuharu Misawa Toshiaki Kawada Hiroshi Tanahashi Bryan Danielson Akira Hokuto Bret Hart Bull Nakano

I've always felt that last man standing and iron man matches tend to produce higher quality matches than most other stuff, but yeah the apuestas matches are probably the best

Took me far longer that it should've to realise you weren't inexplicably saying this would work with Steve Austin and The Voodoo Kin Mafia.

"Almost, I would say, close to a try saving tackle" That seems like a massive underselling of this by that commentator, Jim Ross would've put it over much better

Not a Raven fan but if I was to recommend a couple matches i'd say Raven & Perry Saturn vs Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko from Spring Stampede '99, this CM Punk match (my personal favourite Raven match) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf_WeCDOVxY and I suppose the double dog collar match w/Stevie Richards vs The Pitbulls that some people really like.

I just watched a Tanahashi & Nagata vs Kobashi & Tamon Honda match from 2003 and first of all it was great, but more importantly and unexepectedly I thought Tanahashi gave the best performance of the 4. A year ago I wouldn't have thought Tanahashi was anything special when he was young, because I just never heard much about this part of his career. This past year I've seen a decent chunk of pre-2010 Tanahashi, which is something I never explored before, and it seems he's been a great wrestler for a pretty long time. Top 10.​

To me the only glaring omission from the nominee list is Naomichi Marufuji http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25855-jushin-liger-takehiro-murahama-vs-kenta-naomichi-marufuji-noah-accomplish-our-third-navigation-071603/ http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25986-naomichi-marufuji-vs-shuji-kondo-ajpw-110308/ http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/21810-kenta-vs-naomichi-marufuji-noah-autumn-navigation-102906/

The Gywn Davies match is awesome; but then I watched three matches in a row that all ended with Veidor taking a bunch of two counts then immediately after winning with a school boy.

What do you mean exactly by working within you and your opponent? Is this mutually exclusive to working to pop the crowd? Isn't basically the whole point of working to elicit a particular response from the crowd?

Verne Gagne: has a good chance of making the bottom quarter of my list Buddy Rogers: Definitely on the list he's clearly great, but it's kinda hard for me to place a guy with this little footage Lou Thesz: I think he's good, but I won't be ranking him Pat O'Connor: probably better than Thesz, probably not as good as Gange Gene Kiniski, Fritz Von Erich, Antonio Rocca: haven't seen anything from any of these guys Rikidozan: nope Destroyer​: A lot of fun, could make my list Also until I saw the post at the top of this thread I didn't even know we had access to any Jim Londos footage at all

The Manami Toyota gauntlet was a series of thirty 1 minute time limit matches, so it went a little under 30 minutes. I think the Yoshiko Tamura thing was the same deal but with 31 matches.

Is who gives off the cooles vibes a better question? I'd end up giving that to Kawada but the things that break the tie are dumb stuff like Kawad's missing teeth, Tenryu's silly looking perm in the 90s and how lame his enziguri looks.

Where is that 78 Funks v. Abdullah and Sheik match? I've the 77 and 79 matches, but can't find the 78 one for the life of me. Is it possible that Parv got the date wrong? youtube.com/watch?v=OYxTsZ1pdJQ is that the right match?

accidental post

Since I started thinking about this until about an hour ago I was thinking I was going to have Kenta Kobashi at number one, but I think I may have changed my mind and now Shawn Michaels is probably my front runner.

Most of those old observers would only exist in physical paper form, I'd bet that for the one a week that gets uploaded they have someone type out the full thing cover to cover and put it on the website. So yeah Dave & Bryan probably think it'd be a big investment of time or money to upload 3 - 5 old observers per week.

Vince saying NAACP instead of NCAA when Sid and The Kid are coming to the ring is the greatest thing ever

CM Punk and Hiroshi Tanahashi have a very good chance of being in my top 10. Anyone else going to put Owen Hart in the top 40?

For people saying he doesn't have any really great matches I'd like to recommend this cage match with Lanny Poffo, it's awesome despite annoying commentary from Leaping Lanny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYLoL2dozsk

Stephen said on this show that the WWE has been called WWE longer than it was ever called WWF. This can't be true it's been called WWE since '02 or '03 so that only like 12 or 13 years, but it was called WWF from about 1980 to 2002. So Parv was right to refuse to accept that

Now? Yes he does. But in 2010 he looked better than 1989 Barry Windham.

vs Great Sasuke Super J Cup 1994 w/ Shinjiro Otani vs Black Tiger & The Great Sasuke 1994 vs Koji Kanemoto 1995 w/ Dean Malenko vs Raven & Perry Saturn Spring Stampede 1999 If I wasn't supposed to be working I'd probably have a couple more matches on the list and dates for these ones.

I gave that match ***1/2