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There is an Outlaws vs. Rusher/Toguchi from 12/81 that aired on NJPW Classics, yes. And a match against Toguchi & Killer Khan from March of '82. There's also film clips from '73 of the Outlaws against Rusher & The Great Kusatsu--that's on the first IWE box set.

Ric's live speech apparently lasted, I shit you not, over an hour. It was still going on when the USA tape-delay started, and it's probably why the webcast started late.

I'd just like to point out that the 5/28/80 broadway between Race and Jumbo is fan-fucking-tastic, albeit harder to find.

That got posted at the britishwrestlingarchive board a few months ago and nobody had an answer then. Hoffman was even less of a factor in New York than he was in England so it's not like he could have been the original scheduled opponent (pre-neck injury). Hoffman hadn't had a match on British TV since 1963, but I guess that's one more than Hansen had. And I guess if you did use the name of a big British star, they were either too small (McManus, Pallo) or too easily recognized (Bruno Elrington or Gwyn Davies)?

And was interviewed by Gene Okerland post show. Andy Warhol, Danny Devito, Joe Piscipo and Cyndi Lauper were also there Don't forget noted wrestling expert Gloria Steinem, who was one of a chain of celebs to cut a promo on Roddy Piper during the preview show.

While I don't disagree that Cena comes off poorly here, the Sun is a rag that makes Fox News look like a bastion of journalistic integrity--no quote is too small to cherry-pick or misrepresent. I'd take anything printed in it with a five-pound bag of salt.

Zeus would have to qualify. Mid-South pushing The Nightmare to the North American title. The Midnight Express-Tully/Arn feud. Historically, the all-time biggest might be Wayne Munn. He was a Nebraska football star who got pushed to the world title in 1925 despite a lack of any real ability, and promptly got double-crossed and beaten by Stanislaus Zbyszko.

Fan safety concerns, probably. Even though it came five years after this, you can clearly see a girl getting hurt at the '93 KOTR when Bigelow gets rammed into the guardrail in the finals match.

In one of the Cornette/Heenan shoots Cornette talks about using--I believe--engine starter fluid with the can covered with tape. Then folding the cloth so the sprayed side was on the inside. One night Tommy Rogers got the wrong side of the cloth. With him puking up and laying in the back exit door for fresh air, concerned/enraged fans got to see Cornette and the Midnights stepping over his carcass trying to leave, which just endeared them to those psychos even more.

Projects & Lists for me, too. PM'd you. -- Loss, 01/09

Loss did lucha, let me try to tackle England (though the '70s were a much stronger decade, IMO): - Dynamite Kid vs. Mark Rocco (aired 3/5/83) - Sammy Lee vs. Mark Rocco (3/31/81) - Fuji Yamada vs. Mark Rocco (World Mid-Heavyweight Title, 4/24/87) (I'm detecting a pattern here...) - Johnny Saint vs. Robbie Brookside (4/24/87) - Fit Finlay vs. Marty Jones (4/14/84) - Clive Myers vs. Keith Hayward (12/82)

IIRC, the Crush Gals and Bull/Dump were brought in after AJW's popularity explosion landed them a story in the Wall Street Journal. The Crush Gals definitely had a house show match or two that made Prime Time.

That's the first time in about 5-and-a-half months that I've seen anybody classify the Fragile X story as being plausible, much less a probability as Muchnick apparently believes.

Well, this is probably a month or two old, but since I don't get 24/7 and have to rely on Youtube... Is Corporal Kirschner the lost worker of the '80s? His 5/86 MSG match with Nikolai Volkoff is stunningly good--best Volkoff match I've ever seen. It's not a legendary lost classic but it's better than some of the matches that made the DVDVR '80s set. Plus he pulled off that rising-from-the-dead trick a year or so ago.

According to Baby Doll, they were going to week-by-week reveal the image of Dusty in bed with a black woman. Is that better or worse than the proposed angle where Baby Doll gets raped by Big Bubba?

OK, fine on Myers, but at least wait for one Myers/Finlay to show up. Wasn't TWC supposed to end repeats two months ago? Kennedy is bland and his offense consists of nothing but punches and stomps, but he makes up for it with (speaking of e-wrestling) an absurd finisher that takes 47 minutes to set up. I'm not a Moves Mark per se but if you're going to punch and stomp your way through a match, you have to be...well, being Murdoch might be asking too much, so let's say at least Karl Kox. Take him off the juice and with that bleach-blond hairdo he's indistinguishable from your average southern territorial mid-carder/tag wrestler. Who's better, Kennedy or Carlito? Carlito's probably less overrated in that he's never to my knowledge been seen as a future main eventer. Sadly I don't think I've ever seen a single Fuyuki match--there's that kind of "dead zone" period between where AJPW Classics more or less stops covering things and where the season sets crop up. Wouldn't you know it, that's the time of Footloose's peak. Even Ditch only has the match where Misawa unmasks. And I don't have any FMW.

Nelson Frazier: Mostly agreed, but he had a big, BIG problem in his MOM days with injuring people--most notably the Undertaker's cracked orbital bone. Combine that clumsiness with a silly gimmick and a main event push that he was given well before he was ready for it and that pretty much killed him as anything other than a freak show. A very good freak show when on, but that's it. All of his offense--especially his belly-to-belly suplex--has always looked positively devastating. Clive Myers: It completely sucks that this guy never toured Japan because he absolutely could have torn the house down with either Tiger Mask or the UWF folks. Fabulous mat worker and bumper who also brought the HIGH-END OFFENSE~ by WOS standards. Myers is on my short list of guys to comp after I finish Mark Rocco. Speaking of things completely sucking, Myers had three televised matches in the mid-'80s against Fit Finlay and I can't find any of them listed in any TWC listings. Tito Santana: Maybe the biggest revelation of the DVDVR WWF '80s Project--the Orndorff match made my top 10 as I recall, and Strike Force/Islanders was another shocker. Great, GREAT seller who knew how to lay out a match even without a boatload of offense or even brilliant technical skill. Tito gets knocked for not having charisma but it's not something I buy--he most definitely was capable of getting the "fiery Latin" image across in a big way. Oh, and he was a hell of an underrated brawler. That said, is there anything from about 1991 on that's worth checking out? As Tito dropped down the cards the quality matches seemed to vanish, though I haven't seen Tito/Flair from London or the supposed Best Match in AWF History between Tito and Chris Adams. The Barbarian: I pimped that Boss Man match in the Match Discussion forum awhile back--just checked out the review and it still holds up. Had a really underrated WM6 bout with the aforementioned Santana. Still, while it wasn't all his fault, I never bought Watts' attempts to make him a main eventer.

I'm about 99% sure it's not Michael "Moneyball/Liar's Poker" Lewis.

To say that there hasn't been a difference in baseball's steroid policy in the wake of its Congressional hearings is to say that you haven't been paying attention. It took forever and a day for MLB and the Union to agree on an initial testing policy that was universally regarded as a joke--no suspensions until the second or third failed test, anonymous results before then, etc. Bud Selig's post-hearing proposal of 50 games/100 games/lifetime-banishment was hammered out in negotiations that were about as long and contentious as a trip through the Wendy's drive-thru.

Good point...though that's starting to sound like a more effective and secretive way of doing things than doing it online.

Is Sydal a possibility? Or was he already hired and thus doesn't count?

Tiger Jeet Singh and Dennis Stamp!??!? Singh also formed a one-shot tag team with British ultrababyface Steve Veidor in New Japan around this time. Greatest thrown-together gaijin team ever, topping Abdullah Tamba & Mile Zrno and Hulk Hogan & Jimmy Garvin.

Low-Key Crockett was the best...you KNEW serious shit had gone down when David freaking Crockett can barely bring himself to speak. "The Nightmare has come true, for all of us" being the pre-eminent example, after Nikita won Match #7 to win the U.S. championship. You'd swear Nikita had just shot Ronald Reagan in cold blood. Fuck it. Crockett >>> Schiavone, and not just Nitro-era Schiavone, I mean back then.

Well, even if nothing changes on the WWE side of things, some good can come out of printing and saving those comments on Kennedy's blog: anyone who accidentally swallows poison can read them to induce vomiting. And yes, I got the Ban Hammer as well. I'd love to know what TOS we actually violated.