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The debut of the Mulkey Brothers in the WTBS studio, getting brutalized for almost ten minutes by an enraged Midnight Express out to send a message after the James Boys hogtied and dragged Jim Cornette. Tony: "That young man might not get up--..." Cornette: "I DON'T CARE!"
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Hennig seems out of it, fumbling less-than-perfectly with his headset and calling Schiavone "Tenay." Schiavone hypes the "hip, new relationship" between WCW and Tommy Boy Records. Hip and new--that's Tony, all right. And what better choice to head up the West Texas Rednecks than Minnesota's Greatest Athlete? (Not that there aren't rednecks in Minnesota.) Some guy for Tommy Boy declares that this is the first time that wrestling, in its long history, has merged with music. Oh come ON--no company who so shamelessly courts 1980's WWF fans should be letting that one slide. Raven expresses his like for Afrika Bambaata in a desperate attempt to lend this some credibility. Konnan comes out to spark a brawl with Hennig due to Curt's heinous and inflammatory remarks that he prefers Willie Nelson to rap. Fightin' words indeed.
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Eubanks is there to plug the wrestling match on the Tonight Show that won't happen. Other clips follow of what appears to be very much a poor man's Hard Rock Cafe.
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DDP jumping Sting during the video-game-playing was kind of amusing. Leaving aside the giant elephant in the room here, Bret's focus is all over the place. In three segments he's made noise about a feud with Goldberg, Nash, and now re-starting his feud with Sting.
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Tony seems to be choking up. Good for WCW.
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A surreal night for me. I met some friends at a bookstore for a semi-formal debate on various school issues, then came home to enter the WWF AOL chat to get caught up on the PPV. Owen had already fallen and his death would be announced in probably another half hour. I still wasn't 100% convinced it wasn't a work until my 11 o'clock news had their own coverage. Meanwhile my brother, who hates wrestling but shares my love of cinematic cheese, was providing some needed levity with details on the Jesse Ventura TV movie.
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As does this meth-head announcer's mullet. "Well, he beat the Fabulous Rocker to win that title..." "He DID? Well I'M impressed!"
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I'm not really aware of a long past between the Freebirds and Samoans, but what the hell--another sterling promo for Hayes, throwing a new twist to the feud.
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Lots of urgency all throughout this, equally spread throughout the stand-up and mat portions. I can't say that I was super-emotionally invested but this was great work with some pretty compelling strike exchanges, leading to one of the better shootstyle matches of the year.
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LOL at Nash calling out Bret for being "out of control" and challenges him on Goldberg's behalf. Yeah, this makes perfect sense. The idea of a match on the Tonight Show was an intriguing one but this was so not the way to go about it, not that it would matter in the end anyway. Bret's good here, at least.
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Eh. Two minutes after the finger thing, Dirty White Boy is out and completely no-selling it ("You expect us to believe that this big piece of toilet paper is 3000 years old?!"). The sand in the finger can be faked just as easily in storyline as it obviously was in real life.
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I never got the Attitude Era Unseen set but I'm pretty sure most of those matches didn't have any commentary, and I'm outright hoping for the same here, or at least give us the audio option for it.
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Cornette has always stressed that Prince Kharis was never pushed as an actual mummy--he was a protege of a delusional madman *claiming* he was 3000 years old, but wasn't.
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Also, just because Bruce brought it up as a possibility doesn't mean it ever got past the "Hey, what about this?" brainstorming stage. He was in the inner circle of the creative team, so he'd hear just about every possible pitch, from the ones that were nearly put into action to the stuff that was suggested and quickly dismissed. -
The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
"Someone oughta tell all these young wrestlers that shoot headbutts just ain't safe, gang." Seriously though, as someone who doesn't get AXS to hear it myself, I'm willing to give JR the benefit of the doubt on this. Shoot headbutts are stupid and anything that discourages anybody from trying them is probably a net positive. -
What complete Hogan/Jake match would be on tape?
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I haven't heard it either, but supposedly according to Bruce they were kicking around the idea of Dustin vs. Hogan at WM9. Yes, really--I guess the thinking was that Dusty and by proxy Dustin might have been a potential free agent with the change in WCW regimes going on at the time, and that Dusty might have been out along with Watts and JR. I don't know if I believe it but to me, it's more plausible than Matt Borne's contention that Doink vs. Hogan was supposed to happen at that show.
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411mania posted a list of "Extras," more matches. Didn't clarify if it was for a Blu-Ray release or an extra retailer-exclusive disc. Most exciting for me is the match Mike Shaw had as The Mad Monk. We also get an extra Phantasio match, Hogan vs. Savage in a cage, Ultimate Warrior vs. Kamala, tryouts for the Harris Twins and Harlem Knights, and others.
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Irrational pet peeves displayed by carny wrestlers
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The heat machine is out for part of this, but this is really one of the better WWF TV matches of the year. Some really good out-of-the-ring brawling and some great punches, even as some of this is Austin-and-HHH-by-numbers. HHH had had a string of disappointing performances since SummerSlam when put into "good match" situations, and he got himself back on track here...those of us who decry 2001-02, maybe Austin in May of '99 is really the guy to blame. Post-match is what it is.
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I take it back--give me more of Savage and Nash. Marianna is no actress, as you can see.
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So...after being a pure babyface the night before, with the crowd behind him and behind Gorgeous George, now Savage is a heel. WCW, everybody. The lipstick stuff is dumb, all the moreso because it's given absolutely no focus or attention. The only good part about this was Savage trying to shove Doug Dillenger away so he could get some more licks in on the fan.
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Boy oh boy, does Bischoff ever sound like he's reading off cue cards. Eric bragging about how he has "the most committed employees" is the biggest howler among several. Bischoff says he wasn't even considering whether he was acting in an official capacity, so at least they're coming right out and saying that this makes no sense. Take a drink every time Eric says "in my mind." Oh, and he dares Harvey Schiller or the Turner brass to do something about the referee's decision being final, even though he just overruled the referee twice the night before.
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This had some well-laid out spots and overall was pretty enjoyable action, though I could have done without all the run-ins at the finish, and *especially* the shooty-shoot bullshit that seems to crop up whenever Cyrus is either speaking or on-camera. But for two workers I don't really care about, this was fun.
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A lot of fun, more sports-entertainment-y than their house show match but just as good, with some innovative offense and Big Sal being used well. Guido's facefirst splat onto the ramp was an all-timer of a bump for him.