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Dory has no shot at my Top 100. I do agree that him and Terry make a great tag team. However, most of my enjoyment comes from Terry. Also, Dory on offense was painful to watch. Dory getting his ass kicked was enjoyable enough. I'll have the Funks in my tag list. Here is a list of stuff from the All Japan Classics I watched for the All Japan set with both positive and negative comments... WILL: Dory Funk Jr. v. Abdullah the Butcher (Toronto, 06/29/80) - Maybe one of you can point it out but at no point did I see a spot where Abdullah could be busted open. Blood just started pouring 30 seconds in. Dory does his own multiple elbow drop routine but it doesn’t seem as devastating as when 300 lb Abdullah does it. They fight outside and the crowd comes alive when Abdullah teases falling off the entrance ramp. However, both men get counted out about 6 minutes in and that is that. Dory and Terry Funk vs. The Sheik & Great Mephisto (11/28/80) - This match wasn't that bad actually. Early on, they play it as a straight tag with the heels even working on Terry's back. Part of that work was Sheik biting his back repeatedly. Later on, Sheik and Terry go to Sheik's comfort zone in the crowd and Dory ends up beating Mephisto into the ring for a countout victory. This is short of a nomination but it was entertaining while it lasted. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Nick Bockwinkle & Jim Brunzell (12/9/80) - Early on, the Awa guys control the match, preventing Terry Funk from making the tag and cutting off the ring. When Terry finally makes the tag, Dory takes control but makes the mistake of tagging Terry in too soon to do a double suplex but Terry is soon on the losing end. This series has some cool spots such as Bock unloading forearms on Terry in the corner and Terry’s selling after Brunzell and Bock decide to work on the leg to prevent Terry from making his way to Dory by taking turns applying the Figure 4. Eventually, Terry makes the hot tag to Dory who applies a Boston Crab to Brunzell who reverses that, only to have Dory reverse into a three count. This started off a little slow but once the AWA team started working Terry over, my interest level picked up. Nomination. Giant Baba & Jumbo Tsuruta v. Dory Funk Jr. & Terry Funk (Tag Final, 12/11/80) - This is going to be rough as I go from a 6 minute match to a 45 minute match. However, I always like watching Jumbo vs. the Funks since you automatically have the student vs. teacher potential automatically built into the match. After a long feeling out process between both teams, the match gains some focus as the Funks start working over Jumbo’s leg after he got caught in a Dory Spinning Toe Hold. I think the AWA team work on the leg was more fun but it is kind of cool to see the Funks use the same tactic to keep advantage of the match that was used on them just two days prior. Jumbo escapes after back dropping Terry out of the ring and now Funk’s injured back becomes the focus of the match. Some of Funk’s selling in the match is too comical (back flip over the top rope after a Baba chop) but he sells the hell out of the back injury. Keep an eye out for him piggy-backing Terry in order to get the tag to Dory. The 2nd half of the match is a little less focused as both teams try to put away each other with big moves with the occasional nod to the earlier work. The 2nd half also has some pretty cool strike battles… Terry’s punches vs. Baba’s jumping chops and the Jumbo-Dory dueling European uppercut battle. Great finishing run as Terry coversDory to protect him from a top-rope knee drop and gets put out of commission. This leaves Dory in a handicap match for a duration until Terry gets back to his corner after Dory has absorbed a ton of punishment. When Terry makes the tag, the crowd goes nuts for Terry. He ends up brawling with Jumbo out of the ring but as they make their way back, Baba runs into Terry, knocking him off the apron, giving the natives the win. Sorry for the half-ass play-by-play but it really is the only way I can keep matches separated in my mind. This match is strong enough to easily move forward but there were some parts that bothered me. The crowd’s reaction and the failure of the wrestlers to keep it building is a problem. There were also a couple of points where the wrestlers decided to re-start the match and go a different path in the middle of the match. Still, this one moves forward. Dory Funk Jr. vs. Terry Funk 4/30/81 (start at 9:23) (59:00) -I guess when I do the Terry Funk comp, I'll have to include this match as a mattter of historical significance. However, damn is this boring to start off. You know they are going long but mix in a highspot here or there. There were some decent sequences and both guys were good on the mat but sequences that would have taken 5 minutes in a regular match were stretched to ten and fifteen minutes here. The first big move happens about 25 minutes in as Terry gets backdropped out of the ring. He injures his leg on the way out so Dory tries to put the spinning toe hold on and Terry has to find ways to block it. I have to compare this to the Jumbo-Kerry match where those guys went 35 minutes and it felt like ten minutes. This went almost an hour and felt like three. I can see someone nominating it but it won't be me. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Umanoseke Ueda & Buck Robley (10/06/81) - Whenever Ueda whips Terry, he flies out of the ring instead of running the ropes. Weird. Later on, Ueda actually throws Dory out of the ring so when Dory has the chance, he throws Robley out in retaliation. When the action spills out of the ring, Ueda attacks Terry with a chair and he has a bloody ear so of course Buck goes to the town on the ear, biting, punching and kicking Terry straight to the head. He even throws Terry out of the ring so Ueda can attack him again with the chair. Now it becomes a fight for Terry to make the tag. Of course, Robley gets put in the spinning toe hold and gets rolled up for the pin. I don’t know how good this is but it was fun as hell and worth a nomination. Dory Funk Jr. vs. Brusier Brody 10/9/81 - This is the type of brawl that people should point to when they stick up for Brody. The only problem is that this was fun almost entirely due to dory Funk's willingness to play human punching bag. He bleeds, bumps and shows as much emotion as Dory Funk is capable of. Brody sells a little when Dory is ramming him into the ringposts but that is mainly an excuse to let him bleed. There is a pretty sweet post-match brawl with Brody and Dory taking out all of the natives who try to break up the fight. Buck Robley even joins in the fray. I'll throw this one in the discussion pile although I haven't seen a Brody singles match yet that would be considered a strong nomination. Bruiser Brody & Jimmy Snuka vs. Dory and Terry Funk (12/13/81) - This is famous for the introduction of Stan Hansen to All Japan. Snuka’s over-sell on a mediocre double forearm shot was embarrassing. The match is built around Dory being punished and the heels cutting off the ring with headlocks but Terry distracts Brody so Dory can recover and make the tag. When Terry gets in, he is also getting controlled by Brody and Snuka but his selling is so much better than anyone else in the match. Man, Terry is making this match. If anyone else is in the ring, I would have already rejected this tag match. His selling, the punching contest with Brody, the dive from the top rope all brought elements to the match that would have been lacking without him. Then, of course there is the lariat that puts him out of commission and allows Snuka and Brody to double team Doryinto oblivion. This gets a nomination in part because of its historical significance but also because of Terry’s great performance. Dory Funk Jr. vs. Butch Reed 2/3/82 (15:30) (Florida) - This might be the best match for Bix to point to when he makes the case that Reed was good in Florida. I am on the fence on actually nominating it but it was fine for what it was. Still, nothing really stood out except for the bullshit finish where Reed reverses a piledriver, sending Dory over the top rope for the DQ. Dory Funk Jr. vs. Billy Robinson (Int'l Title, 03/07/82 in Charlotte, NC) - I remember watching this match about 5 years ago and really liking it. I still think this is one of the better Dorymatches I have seen but I don’t know how it will do in final voting. Billy looked like he was near the end of his rope but did enough cool stuff to remind you he is Billy Robinson. We’ll put it through to the next round and see where it goes. Bruiser Brody vs. Dory Funk Jr (Int'l Title, 04/21/82) - After about ten minutes of ok work, this really picks up when they brawl out in the crowd and Dory gets busted open. The crowd was really hot and Brody gave more to Dory than I have seen him give to anyone not named Baba. Both guys end up covered in blood and it even had a clean ending as Dory goes for a backdrop suplex but Brody pushes off the top rope and rolls through and pins Dory. This might be my favorite singles Brody match so far. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Bruiser Brody & Jimmy Snuka (04/22/82) - I really love heel Jimmy Snuka. I just think he seemed so much more comfortable being an asshole than lovable savage. In the ring, there was some give and take with neither team really able to capitalize on double teams and advantages. Every once in awhile, the match would spill outside and you get some wild brawling action including a dueling chair fight between Terry and Brody. The most memorable thing about this match was the end where Snuka accidentally splashed Brody instead of Dory. The two of them go at it and Snuka is left a bloody mess thanks to Brody and Robley. I’ll give this a low-level nomination for discussion but I think the post-match is better than the match itself. Dory and Terry Funk v. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood (12/2/82) - This one starts out JIP early on but it doesn’t look like much was missing. Really nice sequence early on as Rick and Jay control working on Terry’s arm. Well, Jay won’t let go as him and Terry tumble outside. Terry gives him an airplane spin, dumps Jay on the canvas and Jay still has a hold of the arm. Most of the match has the teams working evenly with Jay pairing off with Terry and Rick pairing with Dory. The last 5 minutes of action really picked up with Ricky and Jay desperately trying to put away the Funks but Terry reverses a Jay flying body press for the pin. This was just one solid tag match and stands in strong contrast to the shitty Brody/Hansen tag. The biggest thing that hurt the match was a lack of heat. You get the feeling if it happened in Florida or North Carolina, the heat would have been off the charts. Still, this is a nomination. Dory Funk Jr. v. Super Destroyer (12/07/82) - This was ok but nothing special. Dory wins after reversing a backdrop into a sunset flip pin. Dory and Terry Funk v. Harley Race & Dick Slater (12/9/82) - Both teams are playing up the mutual respect thing, breaking when they get to the ropes, no cheap shots early on. Terry and Slater work early on and both guys were fun to watch. There were som fun spots including the dueling Terry-Slater headbutt battle. Still, Dory Funk is so, so boring. Seriously, whether it is Race-Terry or Slater-Terry, I was interested in the match but when Dory would come in, I would lose interest. This thing goes 40 minutes and there is plenty of good stuff to nominate it but I don’t know how it would fare in voting. Another subdued crowd hurts the match. Dory and Terry Funk v. Bruiser Brody/Stan Hansen (Tag Final, 12/13/82) - This was pretty damn fun with Terry and Hansen bringing a lot to the table. This actually makes me want to seek out those Terry-Stan singles matches and check those out ASAP. The one good thing about the Brody-Dory matchup is that it makes sense for Brody to manhandle Dory since he was so damn old at this point. For good measure, both Funks end up bleeding, seemingly for the hell of it. But fuck, every time Terry and Stan were in the ring together, they went at it like dogs. I am nominating this match on that fact alone. The post-match beatdown on Dory, while Terry was down and out in a pile of streamers, was also great. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Bruiser Brody & Stan Hanson (4/20/83) - Classic Southern tag formula here with Brody and Hansen punishing Dory as face in peril. When Terry hits the ring, the crowd goes nuts and Brody and Hansen actually sell. Didn’t expect that. The Funks turn the tide and for a short time, Brody plays man in peril. One neat spot shows Terry taking off Brody’s boot and before Brody can get the tag, Terry runs over and knocks Stan loopy with Brody’s boot. Just watching Terry against both guys is such a treat. The crowd and the opponents are more energized and I am more enthusiastic about the match as a result. We end up with a countout ending and a post-match brawl after but this is a nomination. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Bruiser Brody & Stan Hanson (4/22/83) - I had high hopes for this based on the last match but this is bad Hansen and Brody. Hansen and Brody give the Funks nothing. Things that Brody sold for in the last match aren’t getting sold here. When it looks like the Funks should be in control after the damage to Hansen’s leg, he tags out shortly after and it is forgotten. In fact, the Funks rarely ever gain control before it is shrugged off and they go to something else. Brody ends up disqualified but this match was a major letdown after the last one. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Stan Hansen/Terry Gordy (8/31/83) - This is Terry’s retirement match and the crowd is ON FIRE. Cool visual eearly on as they brawl before the streamers are cleared out. It just adds to the wild atmosphere. Hansen and Terry are just great in the ring together. For a long stretch, Dory plays FIP with Gordy and Hansen tagging in and out. I wish Terry was in more but Gordy and Hansen do enough stuff to keep it moving along. Once Terry is tagged in, the intensity picks up. He had a bandage on his forehead when the match started and Hansen wastes little time ripping that apart and biting the cut. Hansen and Gordy do some great double teaming as Terry’s leg gets draped on the top rope and Gordy holds the leg while Hansen drops elbows and kicks the knee. The last few minutes seemed rushed but it sets up Terry Gordy missing a top rope splash which sets up a Top rope sunset flip giving Terry the win and an AWESOME farewell that would end up meaning nothing. Still, the tag match is a low-level nomination but the farewell speech makes it a must have match. Giant Baba & Dory Funk Jr vs. The Mongolian & Goro Tsurumi (11/25/83, Osaka) - Mongolian submits to the spinning toe hold. I wasn’t feeling this. Dory Funk Jr. v. Stan Hanson (11/28/83) - Not one of the better Stan Hansen matches I have seen. It really seemed like the two were in conflict with each other as Dory was trying to work headlocks and stall while Hansen was trying to kick ass. The end result is a somewhat disjointed match. This won't be making my Hansen compo but one of you may like it. Who knows? Dory Funk Jr vs. Stan Hanson (4/26/84) - Really solid match that doesn’t have a defining moment in it. Hansen gets busted open and he wears the crimson mask. Dory had Hansen in the spinning toe hold until Bruiser Brody came in and interfered. I won’t nominate this for the All Japan set but I will include it on the Hansen comp. Bruiser Brody & Stan Hansen vs. Giant Baba & Dory Funk Jr (PWF Tag Title, 08/26/84) - Brody and Hansen worked really well as a team here but the same old problems plague this as the others.... Dory a punching bag, no-selling, non-finish. Dick Slater gets busted open on the outside and it ends in a big brawl Stan Hansen/Bruiser Brody vs. Dory and Terry Funk (PWF Tag Title, 12/08/84) - It starts off with Brody & Hansen taking turns abusing Dory. There is a lot of over-exaggerated bumping but everyone is staying active. Of course, when Stan and Terry are in the ring together, they get the best segments out of the match. After an awkward collision, Terry takes a great over the top rope bump to the floor. While the match is perfectly fine, even with a Brody piledriver on Terry that is soon forgotten, nothing really stands out until they start brawling late in the match. Eventually, I think Terry is disqualified for using Brody’s chain and they brawl after the match. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Road Warriors (10/19/85) - The thing that works best for this match is that the Roadies have Terry Funk on the other side bumping for them. Not much here besides that. Giant Baba/Dory Funk Jr. v. Harley Race/Jesse Barr (11/27/85) - Look at Barr's face when he is in a test of strength with Dory. WTF? I love the Baba-Race interactions but I love Baba-Race so that is to be expected. However, besides Barr's crazy facial expressions, I wasn't really into the match as a whole. If they could have made this a good solid 15 minutes, it would have been so much better. Giant Baba & Dory Funk Jr. vs. Stan Hansen & Ted Dibiase (12/04/85) - Hansen & Dibiase control Dory early on. When Baba gets in the ring, it is a different story and soon Ted is playing pretend-Texan in peril. Hansen ahs enough and just throws Dory out of the ring. I may have to rewind but it looked likeDory was running away from Hansen. This startegy worked becasue they get the advantage back and work over Doryonce he gets back in the ring. Awkward moment as Ted jumps off the 2nd rope onto Dory. It looks likke he doesn't know what he wants to do or he is too far away so he just kicks him in the face and shoulder. It looked pretty stiff and awkward at the same time. He does it again later in the match so maybe it is his new 2nd rope move. I like the fact thatDory played FIP becasue I prefer to see him getting his ass kicked instead of being on offense. This also allows Baba to get the hot tag and bring the crowd into the match. The match ends in a double countout but Stan & Ted destroyDory in the post-match until Baba clears them out with a chair. As Baba is checking on Dory, Stan comes back in and pounds Baba with the cowbell. Sweet. I would say that the match by itself is a borderline nomination but the fun post-match puts it over the top. Giant Baba & Dory Funk Jr vs. Jumbo Tsuruta & Genichiro Tenryu (12/12/85) - These guys are going long and they have no problem acting like it. Lots of resting, lots of stationary holds. It picks up in the end but compared to other tags that are nominated, this doest have a chance. Road Warriors vs. Dory and Terry Funk (10/10/86) - Terry’s Manny Fernandez moustache is doing him no favors. Too much Road Warrior domination and no-selling for me to nominate but the Funks are making this hard since they are really good at selling and bumping here. Dory and Terry Funk vs. Rick Martel & Tom Zenk (11/22/86) - I don’t know if it is the dead crowd but I am not feeling the Zenk/Martel tag team. This was a ho-hum tag with a decent finish. Terry Funk really stood out though as having the most memorable moments of a forgettable match. You could tell he missed performing in Japan and he was eager to please. Stan Hansen & Ted Dibiase v. Dory Funk Jr & Hiroshi Wajima (04/05/87) - I really don't care for Wajima. Maybe it is his low center of gravity due to having stubby legs and a long torso. Another decent tag that comes up short on this set. Ted and Stan dominate most of the match. However, when Stan goes for the lariat, Wajima gets pulled out of the ring byDory and saved. THe match ends up in a double countount and no nomination. KRIS Z Dory Funk Jr. © vs. Terry Funk (4/30/81) This is a legendary matchup that happened only once. You know what kind of psychology is going to be used here and you can tell early on that they are going long so it's expected to see lots of holds and counters which is pretty fun to me at least watching these brothers try and outthink each other on the mat. It started to kick up once Terry took his usual insane bump off a backdrop over the top rope to the floor where he was selling his left knee hard. Dory then goes on the offensive trying to work over Terry's bad knee but Terry fights hard to keep him at bay. Dory would then go to various suplexes to get nearfalls but Terry just keeps on fighting as they trade offense throughout the last 5-10 minutes. Terry would get a sunset flip over the apron on Dory but he would reverse it to get the win in a 50+ minute match. They exchanged hugs and Terry put the belt on Dory after the match which capped off a really well done technical match. I can see why some won't like this but this is too historical and too good not to be a nomination. Dory Funk Jr. vs. Stan "The Lariat" Hansen (4/26/84) This was really good early on with both men working hard on the mat but it doesn't really get going until they go to the floor where Dory whacks Hansen with a steel chair busting him open and he taps a good one. Hansen then tries to finish off Dory but he would miss a running knee smash into the corner allowing Dory to go for the spinning toehold which brought out Brody for the DQ. This was getting good before the Brody interference. Dory & Terry Funk vs. Ted DiBiase & Stan "The Lariat" Hansen (8/29/85) DiBiase isn't in his Hansen colors yet as he wears red here and Dory's goatee is awesome. This is good back and forth action and I liked when DiBiase & Terry was in as they were working well together but it looked like to me that Dory & Stan were just going through the motions. Watching DiBiase & Terry go at it made me wish we got a good feud between these two around this time period because they were bringing it. The action would heat up at the end of course as both teams brawled on the floor as Hansen gave Terry a piledriver but Dory would make it back in and we would get Dory breaking out the TEXAS CLOVERLEAF as Hansen was pulled back to the floor by Terry. Hansen who had one shoe on then came back in the ring and just nailed Dory with a lariat which Joe Higuchi called a DQ. Dory was then destroyed with the cowbell afterwards and juiced as Terry just stood on the floor throwing chairs in the ring. This match was really getting hot at the end until the horrible DQ call by Higuchi which kills it as a nomination but this was very fun. Ted DiBiase & Stan "The Lariat" Hansen vs. Giant Baba & Dory Funk Jr. (12/4/85) Heavy armwork by Baba & Dory on DiBiase's left arm early in the match until Hansen would chase Dory off into the crowd setting up for when he came back in they would work him over. I thought the DiBiase 2nd rope boot to the face was a cool spot and he should've used that more. Dory took a lot of punishment here from both men which was the smart way to go since he would be a better FIP than Baba who when he got the hot tag hit all his spots but you could tell that his days in matches like this were ending. Baba would eat a lariat on the floor and both teams would get counted out before Dory would get destroyed in the ring until Baba cleaned house with a chair. Baba checked on Dory but as this happened, Hansen attacked him with the cowbell then along with DiBiase beat on them some more before leaving. This was good stuff and the brawl after the match was fun as well so I'll push this forward. CHILDS: Nikolai Volkoff/Machine vs. Dory Funk Jr/Jumbo Tsuruta (11/2/82) - Dory and Volkoff carried most of the action which wasn't a good thing. Brody ultimately ran in to attack Baba and Dory, so the match felt like a set-up more than anything noteworthy on its own. Terry Funk vs. Dory Funk Jr. (4/30/81) Dory Funk is in some great matches but lord almighty he can suck the life out of others. That's been among the most striking revelations to me as I've watched a bunch of older All-Japan in the last year. I always assumed Dory was great based on reputation but few wrestlers send me to the fast forward button more often.

Dylan, to answer that question, I would say that if we only consider his peak then we are left with the same problem from back in the Smarkschoice poll... He only had a two year peak. Also, and you can answer this, was his 2005-06 run really a home run? I know he had a three way match, the Angle matches and I don't know of anything else of note. Historically, compare that with Buddy Rose who had at least an 8 year run of good-great matches and will be up in my Top 20 somewhere. From his peers, Danielson and Punk were still having great matches long after their Indy run. Danielson may have had 2 or 3 Indy years that match Joe's peak. I think Hero has been more consistent longer even though he never had the peak that Joe has. Cesaro has the peak and a longer run of solid matches. I still have him in my question mark category though.

It isn't going to happen cheapshot. This place was created with the purpose of letting other boards deal with current events, music, movie arguments, etc.

Abby was the scariest wrestler for me to watch as a kid. He felt really unpredictable. I won't have him on my list but I enjoy watching him carve people up.

I love Joe in ROH. I remember telling Loss ten years ago that was some of the best wrestling I had ever seen... ever. When he went to TNA, in the fabled 2005 time period, it looked like Joe would continue his trend as one of the greats from this generation. Still, we can't talk about somebody like Ric Flair, who was great for 15 years+, criticize his last shitty ten years and forget that Joe (who had a sweet two year run) had 8 years of shit piled on top of that 2 years. Some of it was booking, some of it was motivation, some of it was opponents but life sucks that way sometimes.

The Devitt thread was genuine. This is me giving you a specific warning to let it go since you have already given your feedback. We already have mods here who think you are a troll. Nothing good can come from you continuing this conversation.

It's good advice. You probably should stop posting about it.

I hope you feel vindicated.

Just say my name bro. Anyway, as a wrestling fan, you should be used to unsatisfying endings. I created a thread where those who feel the need to criticize PWO can help us improve the board.

Some people are concerned about a beehive mentality. Others are worried about mod bullying. Maybe you just don't like that we don't dwell into other areas and want it to be Pro Wrestling 75% and Everything else 25%. Well, if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. How can we help PWO be everything you want it to be?

For the record, it was my buddy shawmic who attacked rovert in the thread mentioned. I was giving rovert an open forum to explain why Prince Devitt, respected by his peers, was such a great wrestler. Somebody was defending Tanahashi in one thread against Dylan but he wasn't really propping up Tanahashi but rather arguing with Dylan about personal bullshit. Once the poster went into detail about Tanahashi's strengths in the microscope, the conversation took a turn for the better. I wanted rovert to rise to the occasion, help us close-minded PWO posters understand why we should be checking out Devitt. I even created a Devitt thread in the microscope. Rovert couldn't be bothered. As for respected internet posters like Alan and Naylor. Naylor and I have talked nearly every week for the last 5 years. We disagree about wrestling a lot but it doesn't prevent us from being friends. I have always been friendly with ALan4L and if he has a problem with me or PWO, he has never approached me about it. Maybe my "mod status" is too intimidating. I am sorry that my "mod status" frightens you so much and is so intimidating that you can't give one opinion that is your own except of course to shit on the board you are posting on. Anyway, just in case you missed it, here is the link to the forum where you can give unfiltered board feedback... http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/forum/2-announcements-and-feedback/ Keep this petty persecution complex bullshit out of these threads.

http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/forum/2-announcements-and-feedback/ Real simple. We have a forum here for any concerns people have about the board. If your sole purpose is to take potshots at the board or community itself, you don't have to post here. We don't ban people for being confrontational. We don't ban people for being assholes. However, I'd like to think we have built a nice little place where people can talk just about wrestling and not worry about politics or personal problems that would affect other people's enjoyment. If you like something that someone doesn't like, that's cool too. Just don't be surprised when somebody challenges your opinions. My biggest arguments on the board have been with the people I talk to the most. In the end, it's just fucking wrestling and this is the place to talk about just fucking wrestling.

No, it would just reinforce the problem that he has had with perception... he never goes away long enough for us to miss him.

I have been saying that all along.

Nobody gives a fuck about that boring old man.

Scorpio is a guy that really impresses me every time I go and revisit an old match. Really great wrestler worthy of a spot on the 100.

Maybe the one non luchador i will go out of my way to see more footage of before the project ends.

I think Luger ' s best work is better than all of the other names listed. However, I don't think any of them will make the Top 100. There is some prime names for a top 200.

To be fair, my buddy Tony pointed out to me that Savage had the most amazing ring attire ever for his 1/4/00 NJ Dome match, easily one of the bets entrances of Savage's career. If you factor in ring attire, Flair had long since passed the expiration point of WTF ring attire. Savage was killing it in one of his last matches ever... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqqX1LeE_yE

I think it should be 2 man teams but I will defer to Grimmas. I am not going to be pissed talking about the greatness of awesome wrestlers.

His peak is similar to Magnum TA's peak for me. Magnum was awesome from 84-86. But is that enough to put him on the list? I don't know if Luger's case is as strong.

I love Bock and he will rank high on my list but he could also be really boring in All Japan. He had the great Robinson match and some highlights against Jumbo but he could also kill a match dead with his "matwork".

He has the Vader feud and a couple of Regal matches. Everything else was done better by other wrestlers.