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More of an angle more so than a match. One of the most sadistic and wildest angles I've ever seen. No hyperbole. Sullivan attacks Kanemura before the bell and Kanemura bleeds buckets. It looked like a scene from a horror movie.
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The Roman entrance was epic and you gotta love Punk's pre walkout video with AFI and with him wearing his old ROH black jacket. I've seen a lot of folks call this one of the best WM matches of all-time and I thought it was good, but not quite that good. There was plenty to dig like Punk getting juice off the big stair shot while int he tree of woe, Punk's exhausting selling where he was tumbling near the end, Punk tossing the tape at the ref. and hitting Reigns with the low blow before hitting the GTS, etc. This was quite long brawl, but that was to be expected and this never dragged as something key was always happening. I think a re-watch on this will be due at some point as I think I'll like it better without having watched as much wrestling beforehand. Regardless, this was still great.
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You know this was going to brought up. This was brief and exactly what it needed to be. Two giants throwing bombs and bumping big. Closer to Brock's second WM match with Goldberg than his other WM matches in length and style. Although it wasn't quite at that level. Career making performance and passing of the torch.
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[1991-03-30-SWS-Wrestlefest] Hulk Hogan & Genichiro Tenryu vs Legion of Doom
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
This was awesome. The double press slam from LOD on Hogan and Tenryu is one of the most surreal spots you'll see. Hogan and Hawk are bleeding, hitting each other with chair shots and flinging tables at each other. Meanwhile Tenryu is getting tossed into the crowd and bumping for Animal. Words can't do this justice as to how entertaining this is. -
I liked this a lot, but there's two knocks on this. One has been said which was Goto popping up fairly quickly from the piledriver through the table. The other was Goto clearly blading during the initial headbutt exchange. You can see him quickly digging the blade into his forehead after every headbutt. I would say I'm one of the biggest Onita fans on here and am probably the biggest Goto fan on here and will say this was good, maybe even very good, but not great and not a MOTYC or anything imo.
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[1990-11-05-FMW-1st Anniversary Show] Atsushi Onita vs Mr Pogo
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in November 1990
Mr. Pogo's manager was Victor Quiñones. Quiñones worked in the Puerto Rico office with Carlos Colón and Victor Jovica. Pogo was touring Puerto Rico at the time so I'm sure that's where they met. Quiñones was also the founder of IWA JAPAN and IWA Puerto Rico and he was one of the key figures behind WWE Super Astros.- 11 replies
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[1990-04-13-WWF/AJPW Summit] Randy Savage vs Genichiro Tenryu
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
Phenomenal match. Even before it starts, the crowd is hot for it. More so a WWE style match than a Dome style match, but it's still phenomenal as Macho Man and Sherri do a fantastic job heeling it up. Not much else I can add that hasn't already been said.- 20 replies
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[1990-02-12-FMW-Battle Brave] Atsushi Onita vs Masanobu Kurisu (Barbed Wire)
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in February 1990
This ruled. Kurisu is a fella who's stood out in FMW as he's more featured there as a main event player against Onita than he was in New Japan where I mostly saw him eating pins in multi man matches. This isn't as wild as the street fight with Dragon Master and Tarzan Goto, but this is a nice Korakuen Hall brawl along that line. Kurisu isn't afraid of laying in his offense and Onita is a madman and isn't afraid of getting all recked in barbed wire. They do an an excellent job building around the gimmick and this isn't an over the top FMW bloodbath, but Onita gets his back sliced up with the barbed wire.- 18 replies
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Not much else I can add here. This was really good. Love the intense exchanges between Tenryu and Choshu like everyone else seemed to have. Even though it wasn't a traditional tie up, it was still super tense between and the crowd ate it up. Gotta say I dig Takano much more as himself at heavyweight than as the Cobra at Jr. heavyweight. At heavyweight he looks more comfortable and is much more toned down than at Jr. heavyweight where he looked like he was trying to run through everything and even popped immediately from tombstone piledrivers at times.
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This was an absolute blast. I don't think it's too distracting, but I'll say contrary to everyone else that Perfect's bumping is a bit too over the top and nearly cartoonish. Dug him getting arrogant and letting Hogan go at the 2 count because the Genius wanted to get the pin and it backfired. Also dug Hogan tagging himself back in and trying to the glory from Warrior leading up to their Mania match.
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Yeah, this was really good. Not much I can really add, but I'll reinforce what was said about Buzz Sawyer. I wasn't a big fan, but between this and his matches in Mid South, I was blown away by his performances.
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[1990-12-15-WWF-Superstars] Cain the Undertaker vs Mario Mancini
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
It's cool seeing Taker referred to as Kane the Undertaker. It makes It's gotta be Kane reveal at Hell in the Cell a cool callback. The match itself is a brief typical jobber TV squash match with the featured wrestler hitting all of his signature spots and finisher. The finish looked brutal as you can see Mancini clearly landing on his head. A neat historical bit. -
[1990-01-21-WWF-Royal Rumble] Ron Garvin vs Greg Valentine
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I've watched this a few times through the years and have liked it previously, but I don't as much now as I did previously. It's not bad by any stretch as they both work great together and their work is snug, but the pinning attempts through me off and the shin guards are a gimmick that haven't aged well. Some of the pin attempts make sense as they're just countering moves and eventually land pins in the counters, but sometimes they go straight for pins off instinct. That's fine and all, but it affects the flow of the match. The shin guards just look goofy. The crowd gets a kick out of them working with and around them, but it looks goofy. Also, why did Valentine climb to the top rope? He didn't even hint at a fake dive and it looked like it was choreographed for him to get slammed off it as he did.- 36 replies
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[1990-08-04-NWA-World Championship Wrestling] The Pearl vs Joe Cazana
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in August 1990
What an oddity. I had no idea this existed and I had no idea and wouldn't have guessed it was Ranger Ross impersonating Muta. He doesn't do a horrible job imitating Muta, but the power elbow looked nothing like Muta's and he hit the handspring elbow with the wrong elbow as he swung his right elbow back but Cazana was to his right. Worth noting the moonsault was nowhere near as clean as Muta's either. It didn't help the crowd wasn't invested at all in this. -
This isn't pro-wrestling. It's an exhibition grappling tag team match. There's not much viable cooperation, but they do go half speed because it's an exhibition. GCM was a combat sports promotion that had many events where they would feature MMA and grappling bouts. Yoshiyuki Yoshida and Dan Hardy who fought in the UFC and Hidetaka Monma who ventured into pro-wrestling fought for GCM. Aside from GCM, there's several other smaller MMA promotions that had grappling and MMA bouts on their cards like ZST, for example. ZST was one of the smaller promotions that was founded by RINGS. ZST had grappling tag team bouts and they are were also pioneers of the MMA tag team bouts where folks would have to tag in and out to compete. Those MMA bouts were shoots, not exhibitions. The reason these tag team bouts aren't recorded on any of the major combat sports databases like Sherdog or Tapology is because these databases solely focus on standard 1 vs. 1 bouts which is what grappling and MMA were founded on and is what the Unified Rules play by.
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[1998-08-01-NJPW-G1 Climax] Genichiro Tenryu vs Shinya Hashimoto
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in August 1998
This was phenomenal. Two of the best of all-time just battling it out in a big tournament match with a heavily invested hot crowd. Every strike thrown looks effective and is sold. Hashimoto yanking Tenryu into the DDT midway through was great as it looked like a proper struggle and not two guys getting into place or cooperating for it. Hashimoto countering Tenryu's dive off the top with the spinning kick was perfectly timed. The finish was great with Hashimoto getting one big move in and they called it. No excessive finishing exchanges. No endless 2.99999999999 kickouts out. Nothing. Just a big move and a clean finish. Finishes like that are why I prefer New Japan to All Japan in this era. I felt All Japan overdid it many times and I know New Japan had matches where it happened as well, but it wasn't frequent. Love how they kept it brief and didn't have to run an extensive long 40 minute drawn out match. That is another one of the main reasons I favor New Japan over All Japan in the era as well. Well, with the exception of Hansen who would keep a lot of his big matches to around 25 minutes. Either way, you don't have to go 40 minutes every time to for it to be a classic. This is the kind of match that makes me wish we could've replaced Kawada as a Three Musketeer and Muto as a Pillar. Kawada excelled in any setting, but I think he would've been even better in these New Japan sub 20 minute matches and I think Muto would've been good in the longer drawn out All Japan matches. Any and all modern wrestlers need to see this. More of this and less blatant thigh slap heavy strikes. This is what a proper strike exchanges should look like. This is proof you don't need to have to a long drawn out match and go 40 minutes every time. This is proof you don't have to excessively reck your body with endless high risk spots. This is proof endless false finish 2.999999999999 kickouts aren't always needed. I'm not super high on giving matches star ratings, but this is one I'd give the full five to as it's everything I love about pro-wrestling.- 13 replies
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Kawada to be interviewed by Eddie Kingston
Edwin replied to The Thread Killer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Caught a clip of this and Kingston saying he studied Kawada's matches religiously only for Kawada to tell him with a serious and disappointed face he doesn't get paid for people to watch his matches was funny. -
Mauro was good on commentary before he joined NXT. I recall hearing him during PRIDE, Strikeforce, etc. and not being annoyed by him. Once he began working weekly TV in NXT he got annoying as he got himself some attention because of the catchphrase. I partially blame the NXT fans for that as they kept applauding him for it (they were also constantly clamoring for the unfunny Bugez air guitar gimmick). I recall him even asking if he should throw in the catchphrase during commentary because sure, that's what mattered. Also, his nonstop unrelated cultural reference one liners get tiresome, too. They have him do commentary for PBC cards and I check out once he begins interrupting the other commentators to throw in these lame one liners.
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I listened to the Gunther interview with Cody and began listening to the interview with Taker. Not only is he the best in the ring, but he's the best outside of it, too. Cody asked him what he did when fans would approach him and ask him to chop them and he explained he didn't because he was a pro and they aren't. That response caught Cody off guard as he had mentioned previous to the question that other wrestlers would put fans in holds if they asked. In his interview with Taker he said his goal was never to make it to WWE which made Taker open up and admit that wasn't his goal either and that his goal was to go to WCW, but we all know how that ended up playing out. I'm not from the "Fed bad" crowd, but it's refreshing to listen to someone say something differently than everyone else. Also caught some clips of Miz interview with Taker. Miz mentioned he worked indies when he was starting his career after the Real World. He mentioned wrestling in UPW and having trained with Samoa Joe and Hardkore Kidd. He also said he reached out to ZERO-ONE to do some tours, but they turned him down. That completely caught me off guard as I had no idea about any of that.
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[1991-01-19-WWF-Royal Rumble] The Rockers vs Orient Express
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
Great idea to start the PPV with an energetic tag match like this. This is supposed to be a Rockers showcase match, but I came away wanting to watch more Pat Tanaka. He was incredible in this. His flying forearm cutoff was awesome. Yeah, this was phenomenal. -
Late to the discussion, but I just came across this post. If you've followed MMA close enough through the years, then there's no point in watching that show. All of the stories have been well documented. It's more so a show for newer or casual fans. I don't mean that in a derogatory way as it's obviously a good resource for those just getting into the sport or who only watch casually. The UFC has gone downhill in recent years. Dana looks less interested in MMA now more than ever. He seems to be more interested in promoting garbage like Power Slap and the recently launched Zuffa Boxing. The UFC lowballing a lot of the best fighters in Europe (Paul Hughes, Eduard Vartanyan, Salahdine Parnasse, etc) is definitely a choice. Not saying the UFC desperately needs them, but they're far better than Paddy and are already stars on their own without the UFC PR machine behind them. They'd only be bigger stars with the UFC PR machine backing them. Dana has never been beloved amongst MMA fans, but as you said, he's still the face of the top promotion in the sport so folks have to put up with him if they opt to follow the sport.
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[1997-01-18-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Steve Austin and Terry Funk
Edwin replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
This was such a great bit of business. I can't recall there ever being a Stone Cold vs. Terry Funk match, but I'm sure Austin would've been thrilled to have one.- 14 replies
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I don't watch modern pro-wrestling anymore as it doesn't appeal to me and I don't have the time as I have other hobbies that take up my free time, but subscribed to watch some stuff when I have some free time and I watched this that was recently uploaded: The last match is a WWE Speed match between Ivar and Yoshiki Inamura. First time seeing Inamura that I can recall. Great sprint. Plenty potatoes and receipts from both guys. Doesn't motivate me to go out of my way to follow pro-wrestling closely again, but it's good nonetheless and I wouldn't mind seeing more of Inamura if he pops up in the channel. Timestamped.
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These events have been going on for years. It’s backyard wrestling basically. DDT and Michinoku Pro have scouted wrestlers there in the past.
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This started out with a hot crowd and Taker flying off the top rope with a huge flying clothesline and some great looking rapid punches in the corner. After that it kinda shifts and the crowd cools down and doesn’t get that hot again. This was kinda long and it was fine, but not an all-time classic or anything. They had much better matches together than this, but this was a perfectly fine way to kick start the rivalry.
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