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I think Okada is more a candidate for the 2026 list, than the 2016 list.

There is many who will not have him listed, so you won't be alone.

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Adding Negro Casas moves Flair, potentially, to 18.

I was thinking about this today and I could realistically put Ric Flair behind: Jumbo, Misawa, Kawada, Hashimoto, Liger, Fujiwara, Fujinami, Tenryu, Hansen, Funk, Lawler, Bret, Rey Jr., Bockwinkel, Satanico and Hijo del Santo and maybe some more. I am not saying he will be below those guys, but there is a chance. Which means Flair could drop to 17th. Would that be the low vote on him? Who do you think you are going to be the low vote on?

Wow, up there as two of my favourite foods! Man, mix those together and you get an amazing soup!

I have more to watch, obviously, but Dorada looks to be making my list. Obviously he is a great high flyer, but his mat and submission work is also pretty awesome. He can structure a great match and his selling is very sympathetic. One advantage he has, due to his small size, is that any other mini looks like a giant against him and can do these gorilla press and other such power spots. I would rate his touring matches with Pierrothito higher than Rey's touring matches with Psychosis (minus the Bash at the Beach one). His other Mexico stuff seems great, from what I've seen. This is one of the wrestlers I want to keep watching and watching he's spectacular.

Ok, so I got a bit in before work this morning and I have a complaint. If you are hating on carving a pumpkin, than you are missing out on one of the great joys of life. That is, eating roasted pumpkin seeds!!!!! Mine, brine those suckers over night, dry them off, than cover them up with oil, salt and some flavour (I like chili powder) and its the greatest snack of the year!! Not to mention you get a cool spooky pumpkin to look at for a week or so. Also.. they look really cool if you let them start to rot. In conclusion, you guys are doing it wrong.

Pierrithito should be signed ASAP to feud with El Torito. Maybe he could be a burger chef or something.

So this is total who has been talked about since the beginning, as opposed to just the posts this month, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyzFcMbYwzU Pequeno Olimpico vs Astral (CMLL 2013/4/20) Two new folks for me as we get a Minis title match here with Olimpico as the champion. Thanks to luchawiki we know that Astral is the nephew of Pierrothito which makes me like him a lot! It also says he's 5'3 and 149 pounds. Luchadore minis are a weird bunch. An even cooler fact is that Astral got his job after winning the minis division of the 2009 CMLL Bodybuilding contest!!!!! Olimpico is 5'2 and 132 pounds with no real relatives. Damn luchawi is awesome! The first fall is just decent counter wrestling finished with Astral rolling up Olimpico. Nothing spectacular, but everything solid. They open things up in the second fall. Astral hits a great tope and Olimpico gets the win with a weird spinning slam thing. Those two first falls were real short. The third fall is a lot better and longer. Everything looks good and they have some fun submissions and dives. In the end Olimpico ties Astral up for the submission win. This is one of those matches that is completely fun, but is not substantial and nothing I will remember later today. It's definitely enjoyable, so check it out, however it will not blow your mind or anything.

I completely agree. The free TV should be six mans and matches like John Cena vs lower level guy (say Cesaro or Titus O'Neill). If it's a match you might want to pay for it should be on the network or a house show.

http://placetobenation.com/pro-wrestling-super-show-halloween-havoc/ Host: Steven Graham Guests: Derek Cornett (Low Blow Booking Podcast) & Dave Hall On this week’s episode we look through the history of Halloween Havoc from it’s ups to downs. A very spooky episode. Remember to donate to help prostrate & testicular cancer & men’s mental health here: http://mobro.co/grimmas

Everybody can see how much better a guest I am than a host. Also, my heel turn!

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Here is what I would wish for Survivor Series: Dean Ambrose & BIg E & Usos vs Bray Wyatt & Luke Harper & Goldust & Stardust John Cena & Randy Orton & Tyson Kidd & Kofi Kingston vs Seth Rollins & Kane & Ryback & Curtis Axel Big Show & Mark Henry & Sheamus & Jack Swagger vs Rusev & Bo Dallas & Heath Slater & Titus O'Neill Dolph Ziggler & Darren Young & Diego & Fernando vs Cesaro & The Miz & Damien Mizdow & Fandango AJ Lee & Brie Bella & Naomi & Natalya vs. Paige & Alicia Fox & Niki Bella & Layla

Joe just defended Muraco and now I apologize for anything I might have said that offended you or was rude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eCFn9unJ4Y Espectrito Mascarita Sagrada (AAA) I don't have a date on this, but mid-late 90s? I believe April 16, 1993 I was very excited to see that this one goes over 20 minutes, so I could get a lengthy match in tonight. Also, it's the classic lucha 2/3 falls contest. Third fall where Sagrada tries a dive on full-sized Espectro gets caught then held for Espectrito doing a vicious dive where Sagrada moves out of the way is tremendous. Now we are talking as this match is freaking awesome. Great matwork and submissions. Great dives and cool power moves. Sagrada is on the level of Dorada that is for sure. I don't want to spoil anything, but if you like lucha that is not brawls or all matwork and enjoy some high spots, this match is right up your alley. 4 stars easy if not higher. Highly recommend, this match shows that minis can have the same match that non-minis have. 12 Mini Cage Match (CMLL 2012.11.06) Shockercito vs Último Dragoncito, Pequeño Halcón, Aereo, Astral, Fantasy, Pierrothito, Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Warrior, Pequeño Violencia in a cage match, last one in losses hair or mask I have heard about these matches in lucha, but have never seen one. It's essentially a battle royal in a cage where you try to escape. Final two have a regular match. I did enjoy the early escape by a couple of wrestlers. Why not just run out when everyone is distracted? However, the real highlight of this one was the Pierrothito vs Demus 3:16 square off of evils. Demus bloodies him up for good measure. It started to get decent as more guys left the ring, but this was nothing more than solid. Don't avoid, but not really recommended just a solid match.

The definition is so unclear, but if you use stompers definition I have no problem with spotfests.

Mascarita Dorada vs Mini Psicosis (AAA 2012.05.19) Now we are talking. Earlier Dorada was compared to Rey Jr in the way he works and that is a very apt description. I've also compared the Dorada-Pierrothito to the travelling Rey Jr-Piscosis series. Imagine my excitement when I saw a Dorada-Mini Piscosis match on youtube? Now I have never seen this Psicosis before and as it turns out he is just like the other Piscosis but without the awesome dives and crazy bumps. So, just a good hand. However, Dorada was feeling it in this one. It starts off with the traditional Dorada trying to rip off his opponents arm sequence. This one had Piscosis try some nice counters, but he still can't stop Dorada's attack. Who knew Dorada was essentially an Anderson? Dorada then kicked this baby into high gear and then hits a .... TOPE INTO AN ARMDRAG! Amazing! A few more cool high spots, is followed by Psicosis using his second to gain the advantage. He alternates between ripping on the mask and double teaming with his second. They have some nice double teams. Dorada makes a come back, after his second (Octagoncito) does a crazy tope. Dorada then hit a sommersault plancha from the ring post to the floor! Damn! Unfortunately Psicosis does some more cheating, rips off the mask and destroys Dorada with a tombstone piledriver to retain his mini title. Now this was a showcase for Dorada and right up there with the Pierrothito match. Let's say 3.75, would be 4 but it was under 12 minutes. Check it out though. Will mentioned in the GWE area that Dorada would have to be blow away in Mexico to be considered. Well, looking at him and Mexico and touring the US Indies he just may be.

I will always take recommendations. Tom Thumb vs Little Beaver (Chicago Film Archives) Let's get this out of the way first, Russ was the worst on this. Although, to be fair, every American announcer is the worst when announcing minis matches. (Actually the Chikara guys were good). What stuck out to me about this match was that it felt more like a late 70/80's match, not a 50/60's match. There was some solid grappling and mat work and only one true comedy spot (a real good one too, where Little Beaver juts sits and waits for Thumb to dive and then he moves). The movement is fast and purposeful. I'm starting to think you can predict the future of wrestling by watching minis matches, as they seem ahead of their time. I want to see more Little Beaver as he was really good in this. Tom Thumb, as well, was a solid hand. If you have seen 80's minis matches and groan, this is not that. This is just a regular match up with some speed done by shorter guys. Although, it has the obligatory airplane spin spot. I recommend you watch it, but it's not a great match or anything.

As others mentioned, spot fest is something that needs to be better defined. I usually mean a match where its all about spots and the actual story, psychology and selling are not important to the competitors in this particular match. If a spot fest just means a match with a lot of awesome spots, than Mascarita Dorada is one of the best spot fest wrestlers ever.