Grimmas

Not necessarily. Look at hockey. Being a Leafs fan, every match against the Bruins, Habs and Senators are rivalry games that mean a lot. Those things would still exist, it would just be done completely differently. Plus, you'd have the post season to run a tournament plus blow off all of the feuds you'd built up in the season.

It's not a get off my lawn situation, because era or age has nothing to do with it from my end. They're also still fans, just not fans I really want to associate with because they would ruin my enjoyment of the wrestling we're watching. It's no different than the idiots at baseball games who hurl personal insults at the players, they're still fans, but my hubris comes over the fact that they are only interested in making the event all about them. But, this is the exact opposite of "hurling insults." This is showering praise on the wrestlers. I bet you every football, basketball, and baseball player in the world would love it if the crowds would chant "This is Awesome" after a home run, amazing catch, or whatever. However if the home crowd chanted "This is awesome!" when the road team tied the game up in the last minute to send it to overtime, the players on the home team would be pissed. That's the difference. "This is awesome" is a chant to say you like what is going on, it implies you don't care who wins. That is a problem with the actually company and wrestlers, not the fans.

I like that this stemmed out of the Daniel Bryan thread, because he was someone that the crowd actually cared whether he won or loss. Batista was booed out of the building for having the audacity to not be Bryan.

I did really enjoy the "This is awesome" chants before the Wyatts-Shield match this year.

Years back people talked about what wrestling should do to be more like sports. For some reason, today, that came back to me and I started to wonder about schedules. If a wrestling promotion started up with a 32 man roster and put together a full season with a schedule at the start of the year would that work? After that schedule you can have some sort of playoff post season and award the champion for that year. It would be different, but I think there could be a lot of positives coming out of that. For one, you could have two guys face on the first week and something happens that starts a rivalry. Then you know they will face again in 7 weeks on this date and get pumped for that. Then your playoffs could wind up all the story-lines that get built up all season. I doubt this would ever happen, but I am curious if this is something that could work. It works for real sports, why not fake sports too?

This is for Daniel Bryan, the other crowd chanting argument has been moved to the pro wrestling section.

I don't have a problem with the chants. They are just a symptom of people watching to be entertained as opposed to caring about who wins or loses. Whether wrestling being viewed as a form of entertainment instead of a contest is good or bad is a different argument. Obviously I prefer it as a contest where it matters who wins and who loses, but is that better or worse? This whole argument should be moved, I would think. EDIT: So, I moved it. Continue arguing crowd chants here.

The thing about the WWF's Light Heavyweight division is that it could had been awesome. You had Taka to build around. Tajiri and Super Crazy came in for one shots and could had been great. In 98 they brought in Pantera, Mr. Aguila, Dick Togo, Sho Funaki & Men's Teioh. Throwing all those guys together with Brian Christopher and Scott Taylor and you could have had a great division. Not to mention continuing the AAA deal from January 97 with Hector Garza and company. The tools were there. Sign a deal with AAA and M-Pro and they are set. Imagine how over Gran Naniwa would had been?

I've been an unlegal subscriber since day 2.

What should I watch?

They are nominated as a six man, so yeah the six mans count. I would say Reigns/Rollins would have to be nominated separately for their tag run to count.

I am starting to think The Shield have a chance to sneak into the top 25. Sure there run is about a year and a half, but what a run it was. Just great match after great match. They have the cool factor too. The Wyatt's match was the topper and if they get on my list, that would be the tipping match.

They were disappointing in the AWA. They were disappointing in ECW. There WWF run is not enough, no matter how great the Rockers match was and how cool Pat Tanaka is.

Hero-Masters seems like a dream match. As long as Masters was the face. That is on a much watch list.

It's great. Once I free up some more time I will watch everything posted, since Satanico is someone who has a shot at number one.

Austin has said that he's done doing special guest referee stuff. But maybe he'd do it if it were the Main. I think we see Austin WRESTLE at 31 or 32. He's said himself that he's training for it, and I think he got the itch back at 30. Austin has actually said numerous times on his show that he was misquoted. He was talking about getting back into shape about something else and people took it the wrong way. He actually said he was training for a comeback to Gold's Gym, because he didn't want to work out there while out of shape. You know, I knew I shouldn't have listened to dirtsheets that wrote the stories literally a month after the Podcast where he actually said it (or didn't say it..) Apologies. I assume Meltzer didn't write this. Why would anyone listen to any other news source for wrestling?

78k is Meltzer's number.

I thought I had imagined this, too. Then I Googled it and once I saw the pics it all came rushing back to me. One of two post 99 WCW ppvs I watched live. That and the Bash at the Beach 2000. All were shitty. The Bagwell on the pole wasn't even the most offensive thing on the show. That show including the Goldberg/Nash/Steiner 3-Way match where Goldberg was unprofessional because he didn't go up for the jackknife (announcers words) and Steiner & Nash were great because they had to improvise the rest of the match. That is by far the worst booking I have ever seen in my life.

I don't think Brad was the best Armstrong brother and I am not even nominating Jesse James Armstrong.

Mike Rotundo is essential an under pushed Randy Orton from today. Neither of them will find my list and I have seen a fair amount of them.

El Samurai is the guy I think of that is an awesome flyer, but is so awkward at it. To me, it makes it feel more dangerous. I don't get that impression of danger from Pillman though. Pillman was very adaptable though. Great as the underdog babyface in the 80's, then as a great heel tag wrestler in the early 90's to being an awesome super worker in the mid 90's before the car wreck. I hope to find room for him on my list somewhere.

http://placetobenation.com/pro-wrestling-super-show-drafting-booking-current-talent-part-2/ Check out my awesome booking skills as I set up a future Goldust/Stardust/Tortio vs Briscoe Brothers/Dutch Mantell feud. Yes, the lost episode of booking out our draft has been found and finally posted.

A great little intro piece there. Thanks Alan.

I was thinking a top 100, with the rest listed with votes at the end. Kind of like, this top 100 is important and here is the rest and this is somewhat interesting as well. We've talked. We'll see about that one.

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