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Hero was drafted, yeah. Titus I would had picked earlier, but I knew nobody watch Superstars to know he was awesome. Same reason Gulak, Busick and Thatcher weren't involved, because I would be the only one who would had seen them. Same with other guys like Kongo Kong, etc... We kept it to WWE/NXT/ROH/TNA. Glad you enjoyed the show. Next Wednesday is going to be an awesome 3 hour discussion of the rule book with Kelly (of Titans) and Loss.

CMLL is the best promotion in Mexico (if not the world). There was a lot of great stuff already this year, especially the tournament. So, I would say those are worth it.

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Click here. Maybe the dorkiest episode of the Super Show ever. The idea is stolen (with permission) from Where the Big Boys Play. On this week’s Pro-Wrestling Super Show, Steven Graham is joined by Ben Morse, Jordan Duncan and Andrew Riche (all of the Main Event podcast) to draft out the current North American wrestling talent. There are some wild cards mixed in to make things interesting. All of the current wrestling talent is discussed. Part 2 will be out in a few weeks, where we using our drafted rosters to fantasy book a super show.

Charles (Loss), Kelly (Titans of Wrestling) and myself will be doing an episode of the Pro-Wrestling Super Show taping Friday to discuss the wrestling rule book. What rules bug you? What rules confuse you? I will look at this thread before the show and touch on anything that may come up. For example, what are your guys thoughts on the over the top DQ rule?

He was certainly good in his few AWA matches I saw, so the good in Montreal thing doesn't seem like a myth. Although his in ring was lacking in the WWE, I did love his character.

Wasn't the plan all along for a rematch with like Taker or somebody in his corner? Why is anyone surprised?

Ambrose could be your Austin, he has that kind of potential.

That is awesome!

Bret's contract said he had reasonable creative control. Reasonable creative control was defined as something agreed upon by both sides. So... Vince is in the wrong 100%.

A super fun show this week, check it out on iTunes and soundcloud. So much insight and jokes, plus stay around till after the final ad for a great Johnny Sorrow impersonation.

I totally get what you're saying here and that's been one of the huge issues with this discussion both on this forum and on Twitter, etc. When Joe and I do eventually get Dylan on the podcast, I think this will be an awesome discussion. Execution, absolutely, that has stayed the same. The idea of getting a crowd into the work and into the story of the match has never changed, a lot of what worked in 1950 works today. The inherent difference though is what a lot of people and what you in your post considered "stuff" is night and day. Fans today react to "stuff" that would've be so alien in 1950, they'd probably burn those people are a stake. Someone like Ricochet gets over today on stuff that is unthinkable 50 years ago. There are guys as you mentioned, like a Thatcher, who can stick work a style not unlike one you'd see in 1950 and it works fine but by and large, what most wrestling fans expect from a good match is not what would constitute a good match in 1950. We had a bearhug discussion on Twitter a week or so ago and you mentioned a few guys who made bearhugs work (Henry, Andre). Regardless of guys who really made it work, it was commonplace in wrestling for years (even as I was still growing up). If Rusev came onto Raw tonight and locked Swagger into a bearhug for 10 minutes, he'd be booed out of the arena and the crowd would be chanting CM Punk and other non sen You could argue, it's not being built up properly (which I agree) but the fact that this was commonplace in major wrestling some 20 years ago and now would incite a riot, is evidence that by and large, standards have changed. What makes a good match doesn't change though, just because the high spots change? That's the thing, we are defining standards in a different way. What made a great match in the 70's or 80's is the same as what makes a great match today. Selling, psychology, drama and a great story. That are the standards a lot of us are talking about it. If you define standards as the high spots and moves, then that is a different story. Of course those changed.

I thought it's one of the better looking cards they've had in a while. When Jericho-Wyatt looks like the worst match on the show, tha'ts not terrible.

I mentioned this on twitter, but if Spike actually wants wrestling and just not TNA, there is a lot of talent out there. You could start up a promotion starring Alberto, Chris Hero, AJ Styles, Drew McIntyre, The Briscoe Brothers, Hardy Boyz, Dudley Boyz, Chris Masters, Drew Gulak, Biff Busick, Timothy Thatcher, ACH, Cedric Alexander, Josh Alexander, Ethan Page, and the list goes on and on. If somebody competent existed with some fresh ideas and the talent available, this could be insanely fun. Sadly, I don't think it will.

I had a lot of fun recording this. Lots of fun and interesting conversations going on about the whole card.

I beg to differ.

Damn it. Wait till the whole damn thing ends before you decide how great it is. Even then, give it a few months to reflect. I hate this hyperbolic shit.

Click here On this week’s Pro-Wrestling Super Show, Steven Graham is joined by Phil Schneider (Segunda Caida) and Will (Good Will Wrestling) to give their top 6 lists of bleeders in pro-wrestling. Listen to the great memories of blade jobs over the years as well as Steven’s number 1 pick being ridiculed.

I have rated these matches *** 3/4 or higher: 7/21: Nakamura vs Shibata 7/21: Okada vs. Styles 7/26: Ishii vs. Honma 7/26: Naito vs. Styles 7/26: Shibata vs. Tanahashi 7/28: Styles vs. Goto 8/1: Makabe vs. Naito 8/1: Styles vs. Suzuki 8/1: Nagata vs. Shibata 8/1: Nakamura vs Ishii

The thing that really puzzles me is that the tournament isn't complete yet and it's the best ever? What if Shelton X Benjamin or Bad Luck Fale are in the finals? What if somebody gets hurt? EDIT: How quickly we forget mid 90's AJPW.

I thought WWF in 99 was shit as it happened. My friends and i in high school stopped ordering their ppvs and switched over to ECW till 2000.

I still have the feeling 99 could had been more successful if Russo wasn't involved.

I don't know what is sadder to me, Bret Hart starting and popularizing the opening 20 minute promo or The Beatles creating music videos.

Haven't listened yet, but its next after Wrestling Culture. However I think something that should happen is not making all of Raw live. For example, a 3-4 week 24 type series on Cena-Brock would be a great use of the first or last 30 minutes of Raw.