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[2000-02-01-CMLL] Mr Niebla & Olimpico vs Blue Panther & Rencor Latino
Grimmas replied to soup23's topic in February 2000
This may be the third best feud in CMLL, but it's freaking outstanding!!! The match is basically Blue Panther murdering Olimpico, until he makes a comeback with the other two having a fine match in the ring and away from them. It was short (about 8 minutes), but filled with hate and action. *** 3/4 -
Just finished the 1/13 show for Fantastica Mania. It was an alright show. Match of the night was the Cavernario vs Sky Team trios. Everything else was ok... Although this is what you would expect with an early show building up to later parts of the tour.
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Enough to steal AJ, Nakamura, and Gallows//Anderson last year.
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There you go Kelly!
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It really should be a race to who can take over China first.
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NJPW President said he is running shows in LA, because WWE ran shows in Japan. War is on! Plus, the WWE has some deal with EVOLVE, yet is now saying people can't be on WWE and on FloSlam. Yet... FloSlam is EVOLVE's main streaming service. Shit is going down. None of this seems like a really huge deal to me. This is like McDonald's going after the local burger joint or Walmart tackling a really small chain of pharmacies. NJPW is running the USA, because WWE ran Japan recently and signed their guys.
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NJPW President said he is running shows in LA, because WWE ran shows in Japan. War is on! Plus, the WWE has some deal with EVOLVE, yet is now saying people can't be on WWE and on FloSlam. Yet... FloSlam is EVOLVE's main streaming service. Shit is going down.
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WWE has signed ICW to appear on the Network, with Progress and OTT close to appearing. Now they have told FloSlam that nobody who appeared in the UK Tournament can appear on FloSlam... Here is a fascinating quote from Dave in the WON So it looks like Vince did the WWF national expansion, and now, 30 years later, Paul is doing the WWE international expansion. Fascinating times.
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What blew me away about the main event was the storytelling. I was all in one the heel using the rules to try to get Lee DQ'ed for an easy title win or to kill out the time for a draw, which also gave him the title. Just brilliant stuff. I think I could had fit it in on my Top 10 MOTY list for VOW, if I didn't submit it earlier.
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There is also the illusion that someone like Chris Hero is fat and out of shape. Dude is just like Flair in able to wrestle hard in really long matches, he's a great athlete.
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Really one of the best TV shows I have ever seen. Two matches that are different of that quality is really ridiculous.
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Yeah they clearly stated January 1st as the whole library. I did the year to save the 8 bucks a month and I will re-evaluate when that year comes up. I think WM weekend is where the real value will come out, but we'll see. Things in November could be completely different by then.
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Getting EVOLVE is all I needed to be on board, saving lots of money here. Not to mention watching ACW, Shine, Style Battle, FIP, WXW and whatebver random indie runs a show.
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Evolve before was 20 a show, and you get 2 Evolve shows a month. Plus more
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Thank you sir, hope you enjoy this next card. Super Viernes on January 18, 1985 at Arena Mexico 1) Gran Cochisse y Tony Acre y Vulcano contra Negro Casas y talisman y Moguro 2) Valente Fernandez y Ringo Mendoza y Cachorro Mendoza contra Emilio Charles Jr. y Chris Adams y Gino Hernandez 3) Solar y Super Astro y Ultraman contra Los Villanos (III y IV y V) Semi-Main Event) Los Brazos (Brazo de Oro y Brazo de Plata y El Brazo) contra Jerry Estrada y Espanto Jr. y Kato Kung Lee Main Event) Cien Caras y Perro Aguayo contra El Satanico y MS-1
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Can someone explain this interview thing and the backlash? Twitter is not making it clear for a non subscriber.
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i will tell you Stan Grimmas is a big fan of this company and follows it closely.
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It pains me that we won't get the greatest WWF feud ever repeated in Tito-Valentine for the title, instead not for the title.
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Killer Khan is here to destroy the world. Love the scene here.
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What is even happening. Want to see how this is explained on TV.
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He debuted in 1981. He's won a bunch of smaller hair matches in Arena Coliseo & Pista Arena Revolución - Mexico City. He did have a bigger match on October 26, 1984 where he won the hair of Javier Cruz at Arena Mexico. He's on the rise.
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excerpts from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Letter's Page for January 16th, 1985 Dear Dave, Thanks for printing my letter last week and answering my questions. It was easier watching the show knowing how a match was actually won. I'll have another question for you later. The first match featured the cowboy manger from last week (Gran Cochisse) teaming with Hombre Bala (some dude in full yellow with a mask) and Tony Salazar (a nice looking dude who wore a cape to the ring) taking on Blue Panther (wearing a blue panther outfit with mask), Babe Face (generic Mexican) and Black Terry (the other manager from last week). Panther, Babe Face, and Black Terry came out with Negro Casas waving a flag that said "UWA". I think these were the guys who didn't come out for that ceremony last week? This match threw me for a loop, the first fall the UWA rudos just kicked everyone's ass. Cochisse fought back hard, but it felt like a mugging. Panther did a cool submission on Salazar and Terry pinned Bala. The second fall the mugging continued and Cochisse seemed like a real bad ass putting up a great fight, unfortunately he was pinned by Terry and the match was over. UWA won in two straight falls in a quick and intense brawl. What is the deal with UWA invading CMLL here? The crowd was nuts for this. Shockingly the next segment saw The Dynamic Duo of Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez coming out of a limo somewhere in New York. They made fun of Mexicans and said they would be here next week. Then there was a video package of someone called El Hijo del Santo, he hit a punch of dives and used the camel clutch for a win. There was shots of him at some grave, the grave had his mask on it, but said it was the grave of El Santo. Is that someone important? I guess his son is set to become a big deal. In the main event we get a kind of repeat of last week, but with a different tecnico team. Chicano is now teaming with someone called Mocha Cota (old bad ass looking dude) and La Fiera (who looked kind of sleazy). The rudos team of Los Infernales was the same. It was more of the same of last week, a crazy and bloody brawl but with some cool dives thrown in by La Fiera. First fall was intense, but ended when Morgan low blowed Chicano and got DQ'ed. Second fall was just as crazy, everyone here has punches as good as Ted DiBiase. It's a real joy to watch. Chicano returned the low blow to Morgan in revenge. Those two brawled to the back and the final fall was a tag match, essentially. MS-1 pinned pinned Fiera with a really cool move off the top where his back landed on Fiera's stomach. Then Satanico put on some kind of standing submission for the win. Los Infernales destroyed the two guys with chairs afterwards, but out came Perro Aguayo (in a suit and furry boots). He saved the tecnicos and issued some kind of challenge to Satanico. That should be freaking awesome, I wonder when that will be? Another really good show that flew by, it's nice there was repeat wrestlers from last week so I can get to know them! I'll keep the reports coming. Stan Grimmas Thanks Stan, really appreciated. The situation with UWA was that in 1975 Rey Mendoza felt his sons (Los Villanos) were not getting used well enough and left to form a rival promotion. Also Mendoza had a disagreement with the president at the time of EMLL Salvador "Chavo" Lutteroth Jr. Late last year Lutheroth Jr. retired and gave the company to Paco Alonso, his nephew. Paco made amends with Mendoza and merged EMLL with UWA and formed CMLL. The angle is that those four are not happy going to CMLL and want to be known as UWA luchadores still. I don't think I've ever heard of an invasion angle like this before, keep me informed. Dave Meltzer
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I'll be real, Switch has a good chance of not happening. Perhaps. NBA 2k18 is coming out on the Switch.. so maybe that is the test for 2k, and if that succeeds than WWE would come out the year prior on the Switch. Either way my most current system is GBA, so getting the Switch and will be happy with just Zelda, Mario, and Splatoon and some VC content.
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This is awesome for SD, we have Nikki-Natalya, Becky-Mickie, Carmella doing her gimmick, plus Alexa as champion with a new feud, maybe with someone new or Naomi. Alexa can be Honky Tonk man if they want, with a variety of challengers until Asuka comes up or something.
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Yep.