TravJ1979
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So whenever I open a thread and see this high a praise for a match I didn't like at all, it has to automatically be a re-watch. I don't look forward to that in this case, but maybe I should? First, off 30 minutes is way too long for a shoot or even a fake shoot. Even UFC title matches are 25 mins and both guys are gassed at the end. Just flat boring on first watch. Like I said, I will re-watch it, but not expecting me to change my tune that much.
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Believe that attendant is alleged pedophile Mel Phillips.
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You'd think Jericho would stop saying stuff about Boris when he knows it'll bring out Dean and he ends up running way every time.
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He's just biding time.
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Do not care about this in the least.
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Agreed. Boring with Hogan maybe going over a line with DDP and Kimberly shots.
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Wonder if Hogan telling DDP to "Smarten up" Malone was legit after the brawl.
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Kudos to Malone for looking legit pissed. Hogan is a geek.
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Okay, with bad production values.
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Tired of Sable. Surprised she didn't jump the Austin money wagon giving his affinity for blondes. Segment was good until the stupid Russo ending.
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Last good Foley promo for 18 months.
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Edge was awful as a character here. "Arrrgghhh, I'm a tortured soul!" Breaks necks in first match in WWE, ends career with broken neck. Karma. Also, wonder if his frustration with the count out was because he hurt the guy or cause he didn't get to get all of his shit in for his debut.
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ECW Maniac to costume-savvy goof has cut Snow's balls off immediately. Russo all over this with the shooty shoot crap.
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Seems like an afterthought
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Yeah, late 20's early 30's men playing with water guns is dumb.
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The timing of the jump before the bell kind of took me out of this, but then it exploded into a frantic Joshi tag that ended up being great. -
I enjoyed this and look forward to seeing more ARSION
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He did say in one of his books that he wanted to reach the point with the comedic side of his character where people would shake their heads in disbelief that he was ever the "Hardcore Legend." I think he proved that with Mankind's face character/McMahon suck up from about June '98 through December of '99. Yes. Easily the shittiest era of his career.
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Still, with that revisited, I agree with El-P
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In ECW, SMW, NWA, TNA, USWA or any other non-WWE company, I have never seen a "good" women's match, let alone a great one pre-2005. WCW had a few good ones, Madusa/Hokuto probably being the best. WWE pre-2005 didn't have any good women's matches aside from the ones we've already covered, and notice that Joshi wrestlers had to be involved for it to even reach the level of discussion, JBA, Nakano, etc. So that is about 55 years of televised wrestling and less than about 10 matches are viable enough to even be considered. With that said, I am a huge fan of women's wrestling, even the bad stuff, and have sought out everything I can find from the 90-04 era. Pre-90's is hard to come by, but I've sought them out as well. I even once considered writing an article or some type of piece on the history of women's wrestling. I've started and stopped numerous times, but have a lot of files so maybe someday.
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To each his own. I simply disagree. The fact that we have to go back to 87/88 speaks volumes. From the first women's matches available on tape to the early 90's (with the exception of the 6 months in 87/88 with GG/JBA) women's wrestling in the US was nothing more than one piece swimsuits and hair mares. Then you have the year and a half of Blayze/Morgan/Nakano/Faye although in that whole time there were very few TV matches and even less variety. Women's wrestling is pretty much dead, aside from random Debbie Combs/Malia Hosaka Nitro matches until the summer of 1998, but Sable v. Tori isn't setting any fires. In fact, until the Trish/Lita era in early 2000's, it was all crap. 2000 to 2005 you have a slow, but steady progression in the quality of women's matches in WWE and with Shimmer starting, things are starting to look bright and at this point I'd have a hard time defending last nights women's match against the best stuff from this era. EDIT: As I typed this I actually recalled the Madusa v. Hokuto match from Bash '97, Madusa's "retirement" match. I'd site that as the best match before 2005 in the US. Still would take the 6 pack over it. That early 40's and 50's period is actually remembered as the golden age for women's wrestling in the US and it was Mildred Burke touring Japan that set the table for the joshi boom. Even going by the limited footage up on YouTube you can see the women from back then were clearly quite good. That it declined in the mainstream 70's onwards aside from some brief hot periods is a fair point, but footage availability is an issue there as most of the good workers seem to have predominately wrestled for untaped indy promotions. I think people just had a knee jerk reaction to me saying the backlash women's match was better than any US women's match pre-2005. On the surface, it does sound like a ridiculous claim. Furthermore, that statement shouldn't be taken so much as praise of the Backlash match as it was an indictment on the quality of US women's wrestling prior to ~10 years ago.
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It's not Bray's fault. The fact they split the Wyatts, put them back together, fed him to Taker too early and really overexposed him is what took the shine off the character, which was his strongest asset.
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To each his own. I simply disagree. The fact that we have to go back to 87/88 speaks volumes. From the first women's matches available on tape to the early 90's (with the exception of the 6 months in 87/88 with GG/JBA) women's wrestling in the US was nothing more than one piece swimsuits and hair mares. Then you have the year and a half of Blayze/Morgan/Nakano/Faye although in that whole time there were very few TV matches and even less variety. Women's wrestling is pretty much dead, aside from random Debbie Combs/Malia Hosaka Nitro matches until the summer of 1998, but Sable v. Tori isn't setting any fires. In fact, until the Trish/Lita era in early 2000's, it was all crap. 2000 to 2005 you have a slow, but steady progression in the quality of women's matches in WWE and with Shimmer starting, things are starting to look bright and at this point I'd have a hard time defending last nights women's match against the best stuff from this era. EDIT: As I typed this I actually recalled the Madusa v. Hokuto match from Bash '97, Madusa's "retirement" match. I'd site that as the best match before 2005 in the US. Still would take the 6 pack over it.
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Sorry Double Response.