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  1. Been watching ECW chronologically since the network put all the first shows up. A few questions: 1. Who was the Dark Patriot #2 and Super Summer Sizzler Spectacular that wrestled Murdoch? Looks like Neidhart 2. So does anybody know the real reason Eddie Gilbert split with ECW before SuperClash? I have heard 2 different scenarios a. Heyman convinced Gordon he should be booker and pushed Gilbert out b. Gilbert left because he didn't want to be a part of the NWA and associated with Crockett's startup
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  4. Updated through #216. (Courtesy of ...TG) -- 1980's Between the Sheets #153 - June 20th - June 26th, 1984 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #208 - July 10th - July 18th, 1984 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #105 - July 19th - July 25th, 1984 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #10 - September 22nd - September 28, 1984 [Featuring Goodhelmet a/k/a Will] Between the Sheets #120 - November 1st - November 7th, 1984 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #177 - December 5th - December 11th, 1984 [Featuring Mike Sempervive] Between the Sheets #126 - December 13th - December 19th, 1984 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #134 - February 7th - February 13th, 1985 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #187 - February 13th - February 19th, 1985 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #144 - April 18th - April 24th, 1985 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #110 - August 23rd - August 29th, 1985 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #164 - September 5th - September 11th, 1985 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #63 - September 28th - October 4th 1985 [Featuring John McAdam] Between the Sheets #19 - November 24th - December 7th, 1985 [Featuring Brian Last] Between the Sheets #186 - February 6th - February 12th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #33 - March 1st - March 7th, 1986 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #139 - March 14th - March 20th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #148 - May 16th - May 22nd, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #202 - May 29th - June 4th, 1986 [Featuring John McAdam] Between the Sheets #104 - July 5th - July 11th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #159 - August 1st - August 7th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #215 - August 28th - September 2nd, 1986 [Featuring Al Getz] Between the Sheets #116 - October 4th - October 12th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #13 - October 13th - October 19th, 1986 [Featuring Bruce Mitchell] Between the Sheets #73 - December 7th - December 13th, 1986 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #24 - December 29th, 1986 - January 4th, 1987 [Featuring Rob Naylor] Between the Sheets #181 - January 2nd - January 8th, 1987 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #131 - January 17th - January 23rd, 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #85 - March 1st - March 7th, 1987 [Featuring Pete Lederberg] Between the Sheets #194 - April 3rd - April 9th, 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #41 - April 26th - May 2nd 1987 [Featuring Pete Lederberg] Between the Sheets #98 - May 31st - June 6th, 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #53 - July 20th - July 26th 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #5 - August 18th - August 24th, 1987 [Featuring Mike Sempervive] Between the Sheets #112 - September 6th - September 12th, 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #166 - September 19th - September 25th, 1987 [Featuring Al Getz] Between the Sheets #72 - November 15th - November 22nd, 1987 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #127 - December 20th - December 26th, 1987 [Featuring Brad Stutts] Between the Sheets #132 - January 24th - January 30th, 1988 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #189 - February 27th - March 5th, 1988 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #36 - March 21st - March 28th, 1988 [Featuring Al Getz] Between the Sheets #93 - April 26th - May 2nd, 1988 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #201 - May 22nd - May 28th, 1988 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #151 - June 6th - June 12th, 1988 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #50 - June 28th - July 4th, 1988 [Featuring Jeff Hawkins] Between the Sheets #211 - July 31st - August 6th, 1988 [Featuring Mike Sempervive] Between the Sheets #59 - August 31st - September 6th 1988 [Featuring Jordan Breen] Between the Sheets #118 - October 18th - October 24th, 1988 [Featuring Mike Sempervive] Between the Sheets #21 - December 8th - December 14th, 1988 [Featuring Pete Lederberg] Between the Sheets #129 - January 3rd - January 9th, 1989 [NO GUEST Between the Sheets #78 - January 11th - January 17th 1989 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #37 - March 28th - April 4th, 1989 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #91 - April 12th - April 18th 1989 [Featuring Bruce Mitchell] Between the Sheets #146 - May 2nd - May 8th, 1989 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #199 - May 8th - May 14th, 1989 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #1 - July 20th - July 26th, 1989 [Featuring Todd Martin] Between the Sheets #106 - July 26th - August 1st, 1989 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #56 - August 10th - August 16th 1989 [Featuring Jim Valley] Between the Sheets #162 - August 22nd - August 28th, 1989 [Featuring Bruce Mitchell & Scott Passner] Between the Sheets #122 - November 15th - November 21st, 1989 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #176 - November 28th - December 4th, 1989 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #23 - December 22nd - December 28th, 1989 [Featuring Dylan Hales] 1990's Between the Sheets #182 - January 9th - January 15th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #29 - February 2nd - February 8th, 1990 [Featuring Tim Livingston] Between the Sheets #89 - March 29th - April 4th, 1990 [Featuring Mike Michaels] Between the Sheets #197 - April 24th - April 30th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #43 - May 10th - May 16th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #102 - June 28th - July 4th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #155 - July 5th - July 10th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #2 - July 27th - August 3rd, 1990 [Featuring Joe Gagne] Between the Sheets #214 - August 21st - August 27th, 1990 [Featuring Ben Zani] Between the Sheets #60 - September 7th - September 13th 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #14 - October 20th - October 26th, 1990 [Featuring Chad Campbell] Between the Sheets #174 - November 14th - November 20th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #124 - November 29th - December 5th, 1990 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #76 - December 28, 1990 - January 3rd, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #28 - January 26th - February 1st, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #136 - February 21st - February 27th, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #88 - March 8th - March 14th, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #44 - May 17th - May 23rd, 1991 [Featuring Keith Harris] Between the Sheets #54 - July 27th - August 2nd 1991 [Featuring Michael Sempervive] Between the Sheets #6 - August 25th - August 31st, 1991 [Featuring Les Moore] Between the Sheets #114 - September 20th - September 26th, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #168 - October 3rd - October 9th, 1991 [Featuring Jose Fernandez] Between the Sheets #169 - October 10th - October 16th, 1991 [Featuring Scott Bowden] Between the Sheets #68 - November 2nd - November 8th, 1991 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #18 - November 18th - November 23rd, 1991 [Featuring Pete Stein] Between the Sheets #80 - January 25th - January 31st, 1992 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #32 - February 23rd - February 29th, 1992 [Featuring Matt Farmer] Between the Sheets #142 - April 4th - April 10th, 1992 [Featuring Michael Blanton] Between the Sheets #196 - April 17th - April 23rd, 1992 [Featuring Dave Prazak] Between the Sheets #95 - May 10th - May 16th, 1992 [Featuring Steven Prazak] Between the Sheets #46 - May 31st - June 6th, 1992 [Featuring Les Moore] Between the Sheets #156 - July 11th - July 17th, 1992 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #4 - August 11th - August 17th, 1992 [Featuring Emil Jay] Between the Sheets #111 - August 30th - September 5th, 1992 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #170 - October 17th - October 23rd, 1992 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #20 - December 1st - December 7th, 1992 [Featuring Phil Schneider] Between the Sheets #75 - December 21st - December 27th, 1992 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #130 - January 10th - January 16th, 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #30 - February 9th - February 15th, 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #86 - March 8th - March 14th, 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #193 - March 27th - April 2nd, 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #143 - April 11th - April 17th, 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #42 - May 3rd - May 9th, 1993 [Featuring Dave Prazak] Between the Sheets #99 - June 7th - June 13th, 1993 [Featuring Tom Green] Between the Sheets #207 - July 3rd - July 9th, 1993 [Featuring Joe Sposto] Between the Sheets #158 - July 25th - July 31st, 1993 [Featuring Joe Gagne] Between the Sheets #107 - August 2nd - August 8th, 1993 [Featuring El Boricua] Between the Sheets #57 - August 17th - August 23rd 1993 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #9 - September 15th - September 21st, 1993 [Featuring Keith Harris] Between the Sheets #15 - October 27th - November 2nd, 1993 [Featuring Kurt Brown] Between the Sheets #71 - November 23rd - November 29th, 1993 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #25 - January 5th - January 11th, 1994 [Featuring Tom Green] Between the Sheets #81 - February 1st - February 7th, 1994 [Featuring Dave Prazak] Between the Sheets #138 - March 7th - March 13th, 1994 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #38 - April 5th - April 11th, 1994 [Featuring Tim Noel] Between the Sheets #94 - May 3rd - May 9th, 1994 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #150 - May 30th - June 5th, 1994 [Featuring Jordan Breen] Between the Sheets #205 - June 19th - June 25th, 1994 [Featuring John Thorne] Between the Sheets #51 - July 5th - July 11th, 1994 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #108 - August 9th - August 15th, 1994 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #8 - September 8th - September 14th, 1994 [Featuring Charles a/k/a "Loss" and Sean Wheelock] Between the Sheets #119 - October 25th - October 31st, 1994 [Featuring NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #16 - November 3rd - November 9th, 1994 [Featuring "Dr. Lucha, Steve Sims] Between the Sheets #72 - November 30th - December 6th, 1994 [Featuring Matt Farmer] Between the Sheets #180 - December 26th, 1994 - January 1st, 1995 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #79 - January 18th - January 24th, 1995 [Featuring Joe Sposto] Between the Sheets #133 - January 31st - February 6th, 1995 [Featuring Marty DeRosa] Between the Sheets #35 - March 15th - March 21st, 1995 [Featuring Kevin Marshall] Between the Sheets #92 - April 19th - April 25th, 1995 [Featuring Kurt Brown] Between the Sheets #45 - May 24th - May 30th, 1995 [Featuring Brandon Howard] Between the Sheets #101 - June 21st - June 27th, 1995 [Featuring Emil Jay] Between the Sheets #209 - SMW & USWA July 17th - July 23rd, 1995 [Featuring Randy Hales & Beau James] Between the Sheets #209.5 - July 17th - July 23rd, 1995 [Featuring Emil Jay] Between the Sheets #3 - August 4th - August 10th, 1995 [Featuring Brian Last] Between the Sheets #7 - September 1st - September 7th, 1995 [Featuring John Philapavage] Between the Sheets #62 - September 21st - September 27th, 1995 [Featuring Joe Gagne] Between the Sheets #172 - October 31st - November 6th, 1995 [Featuring Robert O'Connor] Between the Sheets #121 - November 8th - November 14th, 1995 [Featuring Emil Jay] Between the Sheets #175 - November 21st - November 27th, 1995 [Featuring Joey Janela & Brian Blake] Between the Sheets #175.5 - SMW November 21st - November 27th, 1995 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #22 - December 15th - December 21st, 1995 [Featuring Al Getz] Between the Sheets #26 - January 12th - January 18th, 1996 [Featuring Pete Schirmacher] Between the Sheets #82 - February 8th - February 14th, 1996 [Featuring Brad Stutts] Between the Sheets #137 - February 28th - March 6th, 1996 [Featuring Dominic Garrini] Between the Sheets #191 - March 13th - March 19th, 1996 [Featuring Alan Counihan] Between the Sheets #191.5 - Other USA March 13th - March 19th, 1996 [Featuring Beau James] Between the Sheets #39 - April 12th - April 18th, 1996 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #145 - April 25th - May 1st, 1996 [Featuring Allan Blackstock] Between the Sheets #200 - May 15th - May 21st, 1996 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #100 - June 14th - June 20th, 1996 [Featuring Alan4L, Rob Bihari, & Dave Prazak] Between the Sheets #49 - June 21st - June 27th, 1996 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #160 - August 8th - August 14th, 1996 [Featuring Dr. Keith Lipinski] Between the Sheets #11 - September 29th - October 5th, 1996 [Featuring Michael Rogalewski] Between the Sheets #66 - October 18th - October 24th, 1996 [Featuring Dr. Keith Lipinski] Between the Sheets #17 - November 10th - November 16th, 1996 [Featuring Dave Prazak] Between the Sheets #178 - December 12th - December 18th, 1996 [Featuring Rob Bihari] Between the Sheets #184 - January 23rd - January 29th, 1997 [Featuring Dylan Hales] Between the Sheets #31 - February 16th - February 22nd, 1997 [Featuring John Lister] Between the Sheets #87 - March 15th - March 21st, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #198 - May 1st - May 7th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #149 - May 23rd - May 29th, 1997 [Featuring Joe Sposto] Between the Sheets #47 - June 7th - June 13th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #210 - July 24th - July 30th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #212 - August 7th - August 13th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #216 - September 4th - September 10th 1997 [Featuring Jack Encarnacao & Brian Blake] Between the Sheets #113 - September 13th - September 19th, 1997 [Featuring Al Getz] Between the Sheets #12 - October 6th - October 12th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #67 - October 25th - November 1st, 1997 [Featuring Dave Musgrave] Between the Sheets #125 - December 6th - December 12th, 1997 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #179 - December 19th - December 25th, 1997 [Featuring Dominic Garrini] Between the Sheets #128 - December 27th, 1997 - January 2nd, 1998 [Featuring John Thorne] Between the Sheets #27 - January 9th - January 15th, 1998 [Featuring Jordan Breen] Between the Sheets #83 - February 15th - February 21st, 1998 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #190 - March 6th - March 12th, 1998 [Featuring Daniel Makabe] Between the Sheets #40 - April 19th - April 25th, 1998 [Featuring Emil Jay] Between the Sheets #152 - June 13th - June 19th, 1998 [Featuring Tom Green] Between the Sheets #154 - June 27th - July 3rd, 1998 [Featuring Charles a/k/a "Loss"] Between the Sheets #213 - August 14th - August 20th, 1998 [Featuring Mike Michaels] Between the Sheets #61 - September 14th - September 20th 1998 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #115 - September 27th - October 3rd 1998 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #123 - November 22nd - November 28th, 1998 [Featuring Will Tricity] Between the Sheets #74 - December 14th - December 20th 1998 [Featuring Maxwell Baumbach] Between the Sheets #77 - January 4th - January 10th 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #188 - February 20th - February 26th, 1999 [Featuring Richard Mann] Between the Sheets #140 - March 21st - March 27th, 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #90 - April 5th - April 11th 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #96 - May 17th - May 23rd 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #206 - June 26th - July 2nd, 1999 [Featuring Marty DeRosa] Between the Sheets #161 - August 15th - August 21st, 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #117 - October 11th - October 17th, 1999 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #173 - November 7th - November 13th, 1999 [NO GUEST] 2000's Between the Sheets #183 - WCW January 16th - January 22nd, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #185 - Big 3 January 30th - February 5th, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #135 - February 14th - February 20th, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #195 - April 10th - April 16th, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #147 - May 9th - May 15th, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #167 - September 26th - October 2nd, 2000 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #84 - February 22nd - February 28th, 2001 [Featuring Phil Schneider] Between the Sheets #203 - June 5th - June 11th, 2001 [Featuring Rob Bihari] Between the Sheets #48 - June 14th - June 20th, 2001 [Featuring Leonard F. Chikarason] Between the Sheets #157 - July 18th - July 24th, 2001 [Featuring Mike Michaels] Between the Sheets #165 - September 12th - September 18th, 2001 [Featuring Matt Griffin & Phil Schneider] Between the Sheets #64 - October 5th - October 11th, 2001 [Featuring Chandler Biggins] Between the Sheets #171 - October 24th - October 30th, 2001 [Featuring Will Tricity] Between the Sheets #192 - March 20th - March 26th, 2002 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #141 - March 28th - April 3rd, 2002 [Featuring Matt Griffin] Between the Sheets #52 - July 12th - July 19th, 2002 [Featuring Chris Wilcox] Between the Sheets #69 - November 9th - November 15th, 2002 [Featuring The Fray Movement] Between the Sheets #97 - May 24th - May 30th, 2003 [FEATURING NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #55 - August 3rd - August 9th 2003 [Featuring Tom Green] Between the Sheets #163 - August 29th - September 4th, 2003 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #34 - March 8th - March 14th, 2004 [Featuring Dylan Hales] Between the Sheets #109 - August 16th - August 22nd, 2004 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #65 - October 12th - October 18th, 2004 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #103 - June 28th - July 4th, 2005 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #58 - August 24th - August 30th, 2005 [NO GUEST] Between the Sheets #204 - June 12th - June 18th, 2009 [NO GUEST]
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  6. Indiana doesn't have an athletic commission. That's why IWA Mid South started running over here when they got banned in Kentucky.
  7. TravJ1979

    [2019-06-09-AAA-TV] Laredo Kid vs El Hijo Del Vikingo

    It's on YouTube.
  8. TravJ1979

    Dark Side of the Ring: Viceland docu-series

    He did wrestle Kerry the night before, but the details are way off. Just seeing the excerpt and not listening to the interview, that's not too far off from what aired on the Von Erich episode regarding how/why he did what he did and how Fritz handled it.
  9. TravJ1979

    AEW Double or Nothing

    The time between JR throwing to the video package for Cody v. Dustin until he segued to the World Title reveal was the best piece of professional wrestling I've seen in years. Pro Wrestling As Art.
  10. TravJ1979

    Dark Side of the Ring: Viceland docu-series

    Probably a good thing Boesch wasn't Gino's biological father. If she was 16 when she had Gino, that means Boesch would have been around 45 y/o at the time. I don't know how old Charles Wolfe, Sr. was, but Gino's step-dad was about the same age as Gino's mom.
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  13. Going through this set again after following the GME poll. I have no idea who the guy making this comment four years ago was, but this was a great brawl as everyone else has stated. Almost makes me rethink all of my old takes since I was so off the mark.
  14. TravJ1979

    [2019-04-27-NWA/ROH-Crockett Cup] Nick Aldis vs Marty Scurll

    Everyone says Cornette is out of touch and that things done in the 70's/80's won't work today, but everyone is wrong. The story told throughout the show recapping the 10 pounds of gold series added drama to the match which made it better. The blood, and them allowing blood to be shown freely added to the match. The smaller venue and good, but not insanely polished production values added to the match. Letting wrestling be wrestling allows for great matches like this.
  15. TravJ1979

    Is Impact the best promotion in wrestling history?

    I would have liked to have seen this, but $40 via FITE was not happening. Available cheaper somewhere else?
  16. TravJ1979

    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Top 100 Stats # by Promotion # by Wrestler
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    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Stats for matches not making the Top 100 (101 - 491) 1930s - 1 1950s - 3 1960s - 8 1970s - 28 1980s - 90 [80-84 = 32 and 85-89 = 58] 1990s - 137 [90-94 = 75 and 95-99 = 62] 2000s - 72 [2000-2004 = 45 and 2005-2009 = 27] 2010s - 52 [2010-2014 = 28 and 2015-8/12/2018 = 24]
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    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Stats for matches not making the Top 100 (101 - 491) Promotions having 5+ matches: NJPW - 60 WWE - 50 AJPW - 49 EMLL - 19 AJW - 18 WCW - 14 NOAH - 13 ROH - 11 Joint Promotions, Jim Crockett Promotions (JCP) - 9 RINGS, NXT, MEMPHIS - 8 WWC, UWF (Japan), BattlARTS - 7 Mid South - 6 WAR, AWA, Golden Age (50s) - 5
  19. TravJ1979

    WWE TV 04/22 - 04/26: Institutionalized Insanity

    She's the new Jacqueline.
  20. TravJ1979

    WWE TV 03/25 - 03/31: Angle vs. Joe! Angle vs. Styles! TNA! TNA! TNA!

    So Lynch, Flair, and Rousey are each facing a member of the Riott Squad and whoever wins their match the fastest is the winner. The perfect way to bury a whole faction. Not that I give a shit about anyone other than Ruby, but this is stupid on every level.
  21. TravJ1979

    WWE TV 4/3 - 10/3 DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION NOW?

    Ronda is just a weak minded individual. Gets finished by Holly and Amanda and wants to commit suicide. She ducks Cyborg with excuse after excuse only for Nunes to not only fight Cyborg but dismantle her. She can't handle getting booed in LA? She can't handle getting owned on Twitter? Give me a break. Her believability is totally gone. Dan Severn is 64 and is still as intimidating as hell. Ronda's not that much more intimidating than Nia Jax which says a lot. This program is essentially Daniel Bryan and WM 30 and if Becky doesn't win, they've completely lost their minds as that worked perfectly and any finish aside from Becky pinning (or tapping, which is unlikely because Ronda might want to kill herself again even though it was planned outcome.) is completely insane. Let Becky tap her out and Ronda can go start her family with her dick of a husband. Maybe she can come back at next year's Mania and they can drain her for any appeal she has left. Bell to bell Ronda is more often than not fantastic. Outside of that, she's unbearable.
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    WWE TV 01/28 - 02/03 Brazil is covered in mud and blood

    I can confirm this.
  23. This was not for the New York State Athletic Commission World Title because Jim Londos was the champion on 6/9/32. However, Londos was stripped of the title In September after he refused to defend it against the winner of this match between Lewis and Shikat.
  24. Much, much better is to come from the Toryumon crew. This never got out of 2nd gear.
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