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No, they got smackdown. (I dunno, I'm trying literal kind of dry humour these days, although it flew over everyone's head with the dentist joke on the AEW thread)

I admit I totally missed that part of IMPACT history. Then again, people talked about how IMPACT got so much better thanks to Bruce Prichard when he was over there. What has Bruce Prichard done since he was hired back by WWE? So I dunno about Corgan. Maybe the show will develop into something cool and sustainable. It would really surprise me if it did, while forward thinking Lucha Underground slowly died a sad death after three awesome seasons (and a not so awesome but still cool fourth one that no one watched).

There. I stand corrected.

I can't believe you gave a serious reply to "give her time to sink in her teeth into her character"... Yeah, me too.

I haven't watched the rest of the card yet, and I guess the junior title match is gonna steal the show as far as action goes, but Suzuki vs Liger was terrific. I did not expect it to be that good. The post-match was also awesome in its minimalistic, very japanese way.

Give Dr. Baker some time, she hasn't really had the opportunity to sink her teeth into her character yet.

Well, Cornette is the one who made the idiotic "children and cosplayers" comment on the air, so if you're tired of hearing it, blame him because that's what triggered the discussion anyway (although I would have called it cosplay anyway because of how obvious it is) And it may not be a Corny project at all, but it totally looks like "Corny's Safe Space", which kinda cracks me up.

Meltz actually has shared a pretty bleak opinion of where this could go, for everyone...

AEW has been piled on *before* the first TV show, based on assumptions, inference and personal taste of people hatin' on anything remotely approaching the vicinity of modern. So yeah. The fact a Youtube show seemingly could do no wrong when the biggest names here are basically old TNA guys who have been otherwise derided forever is a wee bit ironic when you think about the neverending "those guys are geeks" posting for months and months about AEW. But anyway, yeah, indeed we don't need more bitching and moaning. Actually, like I've said before, this show is super well done for what it is. It's not torture to watch at all. This approach just feels sterile to me, like every kind of retromaniac approach in music, movies and any other form or entertainment/art. I don't mind the cosplay/retro stuff when there's at least a twist to it, like Swinger's gimmick on IMPACT. I don't mind this show at all, I might even watch some bits of it in the weeks to come to see what they do with it.

Cosplay. I mean, really people. Get over it. That's what it is. No one preventing anyone from enjoying it, it's excellently done. But pretending it's not is simply false.

Funny how a lot of cool stuff actually happened in TNA (and still does, lots of them now actually), but the Dixie/Russo factor made sure no one ever touched it. We can really blame these two for fucking up what should have been the alternative in the 00's.

Thanks ! I feel less lonely on this one. Man, tell me about it. For months every little bit of AEW business was over scrutinized, the Librarians are turning people away, it's the worst gimmick ever, most guys here are pale indie geeks not looking like stars, Sonny Kiss is gonna turn people away, the Dark Order is gonna turn people away, comedy is gonna turn people away, Kenny Omega is a geek… but then Tim Storm, complete 54 years old unknown has a ** matches with Nick Aldis, a guy even on-the-verge-of-collapse-ROH had no interest in working with long term, and wow, it's the greatest thing ever. I've heard for years how James Storm was nothing but a TNA reject who never amounted to anything, yet now wow James Storm, same thing for Eli Drake, who's entire character is doing half-Rock half-Austin 15 years after the fact. Add in a bunch of guys no one has ever heard of (not speaking of Eddie Kingston or Homicide), were never big on the indies, but they sure aren't geeks at all, it's like the greatest pro-wrestling show today. Give me a break. This. AEW is old-school in that it is doing the basics : build characters and feuds that make sense, focus on matches. But AEW is contemporary and looks toward the present and the futur. The "We can't call it cosplay" argument is so ridiculous. Every bit of the presentation SCREAMS cosplay. The credits with the VCR quality, a song by Dokken. For fuck's sake, DOKKEN ! The font, the color scheme, the furniture. It's not "old-school", it's just retro. And it's not done tongue-in-cheek like Swinger's gimmick in IMPACT (which is funny as hell) and doesn't tweek the presentation. It's done to be as faithful as it can to the original. That's the nature of cosplay. Of course the workers aren't gonna dress up like old workers, although they kinda do in a way, Tim Storm looks like, well, Tim Horner in SMW in 1994, but the context of the show is cosplay and that's what Billy Corgan wants. Hell, you can argue Billy Corgan has been cosplaying his own old band for 15 years now too, but that's another matter. I did not know he went after Riho. Well, that's sad. Totally agree. And the guys needs a reality check : the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega are stars. Nick Aldis is a guy playing a star. That's the difference. BTW, Corgan said that this show is not sustainable financialy in its current form unless they get some TV deal. Meanwhile, Joey Ryan is making a living out of indies. One is cosplay. One is working.

Well, she married a charismatic enigma...

Daga & Tessa vs Jake Crist & Madman Fulton was a really dynamic main-event, fun to see the Daga & Tessa team in IMPACT. Tessa has to win the X-div championship. The way they went from there to the closing angle flew really well too, and what a final angle. Crazy how once again, Callihan makes Brian Cage the most interesting he's even been to me. And again, Melissa Santos being involved also played a primordial role in why I actually care about Cage now. She's a trooper, that piledriver was vile looking (and most probably super safe). Don Callis selling the whole thing was just perfect. He's the best color guy in the business by a ridiculous margin. Once again, and despite no one seemingly watching, IMPACT is doing just a terrific job leading to their biggest show of the year as far as main angles goes, with a fun undercard doing a fine supporting job. Hopefully they get a bit more eyes on them once they truly switch to AXS, because they so deserve it as far as the product goes. Also, Swinger has become the funniest character in pro-wrestling in 2019. WTF ?

Well, people addressing personal family business on a public forum via Twitter, with idiots followers commenting on a private matter without any real knowledge of what is happening, is pretty fucking disgraceful. So yeah, maybe she's right, maybe she isn't, but really, none of anyone's fucking business but their own. The less said about Reby's Twitter habits, the better. Everytime someone posts something here, she comes of as awful and attention whorish. Then again, Twitter gets the worst out of people anyway, so that's not saying much.

The Japan vs Scotland rugby match is taking place right now. So, hopefully the NJPW show is a go. If Japan gets eliminated, poor Taguchi is gonna be so sad.

Well, that money shot came from nowhere.

BTW, does anyone really knows what Bischoff is actually doing ? Meltz mentioned the other day when asked that very question that people backstage had no idea yet, but that Uncle Eric was seen at catering... (I don't even want to picture what the Bischoff podcast sounds like these days ! )

Smells like WCW Spirit to me... (likewise, the order of the picks on the first draft show that was basically leaked)

What did they do over the last two weeks ? They built toward the Saudi shows. The two major angles of the New Boom Era LOL have nothing to do with their actual audience or grabbing a new audience. It has everything to do with doing services for a crimical regime who beheaded a journalist last year. Meanwhile, AEW is talking to its fans and tries to deliver something they will enjoy.

Atavism.

Give me Catrina, evil immortal witch, and Allie getting her throat cut in the Undead Realm over Nick Aldis cosplaying Ric Flair while Corny is drolling anyday. Also, the first season of Lucha Underground had tons of hype. IMPACT is just a sad story, they've been better than WWE consistently over the last 19 months *at least* and a super easy pro-wrestling show to watch with terrific PPV's. Dixie Carter's stupidity fucked it all up in the past and they are stained for life.

I remember when Bayley was über-over in NXT, the talk was that she could become a female John Cena on the main roster, the ultimate babyface and someone who would draw the kids and sell shitloads of merchandise. 6 months in, she was dead in the water.

With social media it doesn't matter, you know people would adress it anyway. I mean, there was tons of transphobic shit on the Youtube chats of the Buy In at All Out, and I don't think Nyla had refered to herself as trans yet by then.

Well, they could have a heel working a TERF gimmick opposing Nyla. I don't think pro-wrestling is quite ready for that kind of angle though… The question of the body in transgender issues is quite interesting as far as pro-wrestling goes though (well, sports in general), especially in a context where some promotions do man vs woman matches without blinking (AAA, IMPACT, tons of indies).