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Raven, Takada and Backlund didn't wait for strong positive defenses to get their own threads. But hey, you are the one putting the threads up… I'm curious tp hear your argument though, because I love Muraco when he's on. When he's not… AHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Can we wait to post this one, my defense is not ready. Come on ! I nominated Raven knowning he was gonna get obliterated anyway. I'm sure Muraco has more fans. I mean, when he was on, he was ON.

Solid worker, but the whole Terry Funk tribute act (which, to my knowledge, he was already doing as early as the early 80's in Japan) makes him a thoroughly uninteresting worker to me most of the time. Give me the real deal instead. Probably at his best in Mid-South (yep, that feud with Jake, maybe Jake's best hour in-ring too actually). Highlight of his career is introducing Dark Journey to pro-wrestling (or the other way around).

"Sister Abigail, it was me all along !"

Takada should have gone to All Japan in 96. Those dream matches we'll never ever have… Choshu royally fucked UWF-I, but they made shitloads of money in the short run. And Eric Bischoff got the one good idea that made himself a career from this.

Cornette said the same thing many times. Murdoch as touring champion would have been even better than Flair. There, I said it.

I didn't say Murdoch was lazy. I said him going for comedy was akin to Muraco & Mutoh being lazy, because although they all have the potential to be terrific when they want to, they can also kill a match if they don't care. Murdoch doing ridiculous comedy was his way of not caring for the seriousness of what should be a serious match, despite taking some effort. But like I said, at least it was funny to watch.

Don Muraco. Great but lazy (and vice-versa).

When he was serious and willing to go, Dick Murdoch looked like the best wrestler in the world. He was that good. And that good at everything : small time offense (great punches and elbows of course), big time offense (a fucking brainbuster), execution (perfect), facials (great, from serious to comedic), selling (as a whole or in small details), bumping (awesome old-school bumps, the best of their kind) etc… Seriously, he's like WIndham in that respect, I would put him above more pimped guys like Flair when he was at his best. When he was going for comedy, he was goofier than Terry Funk, and he could kill a match. So in a way, he's also like Muraco and Mutoh, the two greatest laziest wrestlers ever. The difference being that Murdoch was always at least fun to watch, whereas Muraco could make you want to throw rocks at your TV and scream in agony, while Mutoh, well, I always liked Mutoh anyway, but he could be a complete troll. So yeah, terrific worker at his best, one of the greatest ever when he's on. I would need to watch more though.

http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/19237-wcws-highway-to-hell/ (self-promotion)

No one posted this yet ? https://youtu.be/XqVHcQANNdE?t=2m55s

Terry Bollea as Hulk Hogan in the WWE.

Well said. Amazing to me, it even made news in France : http://bigbrowser.blog.lemonde.fr/2015/07/24/en-pleine-tempete-mediatique-le-catcheur-hulk-hogan-renvoye-de-la-wwe/ (and believe me, Le Monde is an extremely serious newspaper) http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2015/07/25/hulk-hogan-renvoye-propos-racistes_n_7869868.html http://people.bfmtv.com/actualite-people/le-celebre-catcheur-hulk-hogan-renvoye-de-la-wwe-pour-des-propos-juges-racistes-903962.html (likewise, very serious medias)

He didn't hulk up.

I agree with this. I feel like a more progressive (I don't mean politically necessarily) company would own their history and commit themselves to a fresh outlook where they strive to not repeat past mistakes instead of just trying to sweep it under the rug. BTW, can we still watch Jimmy Snuka on the Network ? But really, yeah, banning Hogan completely sounds both ridiculous and undoable without butchering the history of both promotions to ridiculous degrees.

This is even more complicated now with the Network… I find all this pretty comical actually. That Hogan is a dipshit IRL really isn't anything new anyway.

What racism ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFw14h8HzdM

Ok, let's nitpick, it's fun. No one actually billed Doc & Gordy as "The Miracle Violence Connection" I believe. They sure weren't announced as such in Japan nor in WCW. And Chavo Guerrero is Chavo Guerrero, Eddie's Brother. Eddie & Chavo isn't a brand team name, it's two individuals names. What should we call Sean Waltman then ? 1-2-3 KiX-Pac ? Come on, just add Jr. to Chavo's name.

My favourite mid 90's WCW team. Veterans islanders teaming up and busting up craniums. Maybe Haku's best days as a worker (maybe he was better in Montreal as a babyface, I dunno). Should have been tag team champion eleven times instead of chumps like Harlem Heat, the Nasties or Bunkhouse Buck & Dick Slater. Better than pretty much any other islanders team to me (although the original Headshrinkers come the closest I guess), and of course better than the Powers of Pain. Their match at Mania against the Rockers, years before the fact, was terrific too.

I haven't seen a Double Inoue match for ever. What have I done with my wrestling fandom ? Anyway. Terrific team.

I demand an "r" after Ch. They're way overrated. And responsible, alongside the Hardies, for bringing awkward looking indieriffic offense into the mainstream. Chistian was always the better worker though, since about day one when he was dressed as Gangrel's little brother.

Indeed.

I wasn't talking about when he moved to the heavys. He was obviously a great heavyweight worker before the injury. I meant updating his game like say, Baba, Tenryu or Liger did with age and stayed relevant while working with the younger generation. And he absolutely could have I think. Fuji struck me as lazy in the 90's from what I saw. And he's a guy I always wanted to enjoy more than I did then.

Fuji was mostly dull and boring as fuck after 91. He could have a good match once in a while, but he's not even a guy that was fun to watch like Flair was even after he became cliché. It took something like Tenryu breaking his nose to get back some fire out of him. He's a guy who never bothered to update his game at all. And since he couldn't bump or move like he used too, well… Meanwhile, Choshu never ceased to be at least fun to watch, despite doing even less. Fuji was definitely a great worker in the late 70's and 80's though. He's the only guy ever to got *something watchable* out of Tiger Jeet Singh, and that was in 90 or so. His match with Flair at the Tokyo Dome is also pretty underrated.

Also, Kevin Sullivan & the Fallen Angel in Florida… Adrian Street & Miss Linda...