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I like Fujiwara a lot (and think he was a great worker at his peak, which would be in the mid 80's). But those headbutts are goofier and less "shoot-style" than anything Takada ever did. And I have no problem with this actually. But it still makes me chuckle every time I hear that Fujiwara is that "great pure shoot-style worker" compared to the evil "all style no substance pro-style worker" Takada. But it's really a dead horse now, since Fujiwara being the God of shoot-style really is the new doxa at this point.

Yeah, those goofy as fuck Fujiwara headbutts were "pure shootstyle". And all those god awful matches involving shitty gaijins in RINGS didn't expose the style at all either. (I love the best RINGS, probably some of my favourite stuff ever, but the bad stuff was atrocious) The negative bias toward Takada and UWFi (the "farce" that also was the hottest promotion in Japan for a while) is ridiculous.

I can't recall a good HTM match ever. He was a gimmick that drew money for one year.

Watched the Steve Austin seasons a few years back. Was funny thanks to Steve Austin's priceless promos. Trish was cool. Hugh Morrus looked like a shit trainer (guess who won the poney ?). And of course, the entire thing was a joke, as the winner was bitchslapped by Vince only to be never seen again and fired not too long ago. I have no idea why anyone would have any interest at this point.

He's the best Shoji Nakamaki ever. That's my case *for* Necro Butcher. So yeah. Total 00's US garbage indies "bubble guy".

Hum... Flair garbage stuff wasn't like Onita *at all*. (And it was embarrasing, but that's beside the point)

I do apologize for that WWECW thread. This promotion was dirty, indeed.

Amazing to know he's still around. Last time I Checked (in 2001 or so), he was working in MPro.

And people talk about freaking Nobuhiko Takada as a "bubble" guy.

The Jarrett's promo was pretty good. Especially Karen's which shocks me cause she's so awful in AAA. Just watched the promo, and yeah, I agree. Although my curiosity about GFW has dropped quite a bit to be honest (six sided-ring... bad idea, automatically refers to TNA).

This cloud is porn.

I don't know if I would go that far, but I expected a clusterfuck and they delivered one hell of a match, with tons of good ideas down the stretch. The one thing I wasn't crazy about was the big Puma comeback after the tables were set up, a little bit too jumpy for me, in a match where the selling was actually well done most of the time. Apart from that, damn that match was fun. Mundo is so much better as a heel, and I think the format of the match allowed them to get creative in a good way. Most logical guitar shot ever. A holy shit spot that actually deserved the chant. Hey, actually, maybe I'd go as far as saying this is a MOTYC to me too. I love this show.

Like Brian's racist grandma on the Bryan and Vinny show? Care to elaborate ? I haven't listened to this godforsaken show in years (I mean, are people really paying to hear Alvarez grandma blab nonsense ?) (and yeah, I second the sentiment. Old fucks saying stupid shit aren't funny just because they are old fucks)

I already expect a few "Better than Takada"s.

Episode 31 was better than the previous week, with some cool stuff including the return of Chavo in the ring. Well, Blue Demon Jr. looked like crap, honestly, but I guess his whole purpose is to get Chavo over anyway. Mother fucking DRAGO !!! is back, and his new outfit make Finn Balor looks like a geek cosplaying at the Japanexpo. Seriously, Drago is terrific and one of the top character in the company, so glad he's back. The four way was pretty decent although I'm not a fan of the gimmick. Enjoyed the interactions betweens Cuerno and Cage. The right guy won. The trios match didn't do that much for me, because you know, midget going toe to toe with regular guys, well, not my thing. Bengale has one hell of a cool outfit. From Secunda Caida I get this is Ricky Marvin ? Man, the guy got kinda fat, but it's ok with me, I like fat flyers too. The Disciples of Death are a cool little gimmick, but of course Catrina, oh my god Catrina !!! Finally they're building toward the season finale, I guess things will get quite interesting. Johnny Mundo going 45 minutes is just scary though, but the vignettes were once again terrific. Dario is the best non-wrestler character in years.

Well, Dean Malenko was rather short and kinda bland. And to be honest, at this point, I wonder if I would not take Nash over Malenko as a worker anyway.

Crafts. Ok. Arts and crafts, if you really wish to push it down the "artistic" path. (really, this whole obsession about stuff having to be *Art* to be worthwhile or worth discussions and analysis is making me scratch my head.)

Yeah, poor Corny, that must be hard on him.

Censorship sucks too. Just sayin'

The early June episode has been the worst by far. The trios match actually kinda sucked, and Daivari looks really bad. I have no idea why he's even employed. Yvelisse's injury really happened at the worst time. The first match was not too good either, and the Sexy Star vs Pentagon Jr. match was absolutely ridiculous. The swerve at the end made the whole deal even worse. Bad episode, the first of its kind. Vampiro is doing his best work ever though it seems. That doesn't mean I want to see him vs Konnan at the season finale.

Well, I guess it's time to throw that one out : Pro-wrestling and… Staging and borders crossing (The big show of sport/entertainment, a look back on a pro-wrestling sociology) (In my former university no less) (And no, I haven't watched it yet. And I probably won't be able to translate what this guy is saying, he's a Dr. in sociology, so, there you go.)

Agreed. Pro-wrestling can be a great craft. And there's nothing wrong with that. The pedestal on which so-called "art" is put on to the detriment of anything else really make it seems like you have to call anything "art" to be able to praise it. Pro-wrestling has never been an art. It doesn't keep it from being awesome at its best.

Just watched it. Yeah, Punk comes off like a mensch here. Cool story.

Ah ah.

Catching up with my favourite wrestling TV show. Agreed. I liked the deathmatch too, although I really could do without unprotected chair shots to the head in 2015. That bump though. And at least, a death bump is sold as such. Catrina's death lick is still the coolest thing going on. So sleazy. The Hernandez vs Puma match was easily one of Puma's best in the promotion, and the best stuff I've seen from Hernandez. Excellent match all around. Cool interview with Sexy Star too, and the opener, well, I can't say I care much more about Mundo as a heel, but he's more tolerable that way. Have no idea how they can pay off Cueto's brother's angle either. That final vignette was probably way too much, but since they've done such a good job thus far, yeah, we'll see.