El-P
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That's awesome.
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The point is, pro-wrestling and ironic enjoyment don't go hand in hand. There's nothing worse than the product doing wink-wink to its audience in pro-wrestling. And it's not new either, ECW used to do that at points. Russo's WCW was doing that all the time. It just doesn't work. Comedy has a place in pro-wrestling, in small doses. But cattering to an audience who doesn't take anything seriously is just a no-no. The beauty of pro-wrestling is making you believe into something that you know is fake. Ironic pro-wrestling is about the worst thing imaginable to me. And we're indeed getting closer and closer actually with WWE getting all meta and shit and trolling its audience instead of trying to produce something good.
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Pretty much.
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Because death metal and Slipknot really are relevant in 2015 pop culture. Really, some diva need to come out to some PC Music shit, like some GFOTY song. Hell, give that one to Paige :
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What was good/fun about the Funkasaurus ? I mean really ? Apart from the two hot dancing chicks ? It was basically Rikishi 2.0, only with a shitty worker who borrowed the catchphrase from Ernest Miller, who was way better on about every level.
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WWE doesn't really *need* to have a cool 20/30 audience. They would do just fine with kids and middle-class families. If anything, the product is already way too light-hearted, and with godawful comedy to boot. The Funkasaurus would have been a cool gimmick for a guy like, say, Scorpio, who could actually work. Just a shame they didn't realized that in 1996. I still don't know what the hell Adam Rose was all about, really. I guess I'm too old (pushing 40 soon). Or maybe the gimmick was just stupid. But anyway, it's neither here nor there, the fact is they give up with everyone, be it on the midcard or on the main event scene. Remember Fandango debuting at Mania against Jericho ? Yeah, me neither.
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What the hell is Ahmed saying ? Sid comeback was not exactly exciting to me back then, but he was about to have his best stint ever, as a babyface (his best role anyway, his heel comeback in WCW in 99 was rotten). Corny's selling of the unveiling is great, as is his promo.
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Rewachting 96 RAWs, Savio was easily one of the best TV worker in WWF.
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Come on. Warrior beats the shit out of Owen for a good half of the match. Then he does give Owen more than you'd expect, but I'd say he was still on offense for more than half of the match. It does seem they were expecting Warrior to return at some point, because they really don't bury him on commentary. Last match ever for Warrior in WWF, and his comeback in WCW would be one of the worst stint ever by a big name in a big company.
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Burial. There you go Warrior. Well, that really didn't work out.
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Who is your least favourite person associated with wrestling period?
El-P replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
I do too. I don't know if she's mentally ill or just suffering the ill-effects of a traumatic childhood and bad break up with H/split from WWE, but it's a sad story either way. Well, she was apparently treated like dirt by HHH/WWF at the time of their split. And although I'm by no mean a Chyna fan (she was fine for a while as a bodyguard, but when she began to "work", she became unbearable), it would be hard to argue against the fact she was one element that helped HHH to get over. The amazon bodyguard was pretty unique and that's when HHH kinda took off in the midcard, not to mention in DX. And yeah, abusive relationship with Waltman, who's a mess himself, probably didn't help either. -
he's a victim of their robotic style/presentation. the guy is hilarious but you wouldn't know that just from watching WWE - he absolutely kills it on social media. they just can't or won't try to translate that to TV. I'm not sure I would take in account how funny a guy can be outside of the pro-wrestling realm. First, I don't think the main quality of a worker is to be hilarious. Second, guys like Dean Malenko and Brad Armstrong had this rep of being really funny in real life, but it never translated into anything in front of the cameras in term of work, character and/or promo ability. So yeah, people being hilarious in real life is something, but I'm not sure it necessarily means much.
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I remember the French Stallion being such an awesome asshole in that Lance Storm reality TV stuff. He could get on the main roster tomorrow with the same act and get over, at lthe very east as a manager. The ridiculous Sylvester Lefort name wouldn't help though, unless you'd want this guy's gimmick to be that he comes straight from the 50's or something. (well, of course, they would not let him be himself and overscript everything, so what am I even talking about here…)
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Never understood the appeal of Big E.. To me he's Ice Train 2.0.. And I kinda enjoyed Ice Train, but it's not like he was setting the world on fire. And yeah, since he's in the New Day, he's gone straight to failure anyway.
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Quite funny. Back in the Austin era, this would have been the greatest set ever though.
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I remember vividly this angle from Superstars, as we didn't get much memorable stuff there. Sunny is an awesome cunt here. Just perfect in her delivery and attitude. It's kinda sad that it's actually her highpoint in WWF, much like it's Dennis Knight's best thing he ever was a part of. I don't want to know what went into that particular bucket, knowing it was destined for Sunny. The way she sells it is great. Yep, memorable angle.
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Agreed. Here we are in 96, and Jannetty has another terrific TV match. INteresting that he looks better than Shawn on offense too. Nice to see him work at the level he should always work.
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Cuerno vs Mundo in a cage was kinda cool when Cuerno was beating the hell out of Mundo. Too spotty still, and Mundo really isn't good. I like Yvelisse (great outfit too), but really, those intergender matches have to go away, it's way too awkward. Those vignettes, again. Konnan looked like the baddest motherfucker ever this week. Get him at Mania instead of Sting or Taker already. Can't say I look forward a casket match, but I guess it's a way to change the pace a little bit, much like the cage match this week. Good little episode again, although they really should advance Pentagon Jr. 's storyline now and give him a proper feud.
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I have followed WWE TV since last year's Mania more than I ever did in 16 years, so yeah, I'm gonna watch it. But it looks like shit, really. The two things I look forward to are Cena vs Rusev and the crowd's reactions.
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It's Jim Johnston actually. He is still producing the WWE themes ? Seems like everything got really generic in the 00's, apart for a few select guys.
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30 years after Vince killed the territories, Paul is gonna kill the indies.
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Channing Tatum could play a better Randy Orton than Randy Orton himself.
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Man, that Debbie Harry pic.
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Those damn internet fans.
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The big What If of the MNW years. What if Pillman didn't had this horrible car accident that pretty much fucked him up to the point he couldn't work and couldn't live without pilling up. He looks like a star there. He probably would have been a star by 98 if he had been healthy enough. Also a notable one up by the WWF on WCW after the defections of Nash & Hall.