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Not really. More like "I'm old-school and I don't go for your hardcore crap.". But Corino in ECW was tons of fun anyway. The last bright spot of the promotion with the emergence of Rhino.

Isn't it a bit ironic and depressing to think that today the lamest indy show with a bunch of bakyarder ends up on youtube or homemade DVD, and footage of all this great stuff doesn't exist ? When I was a history student, I was thinking about how nightmarish the future will be for historians of contemporary history, with the über multiplication of sources. Everything is documented now, including 99% of useless stuff. This is the same thing for wrestling. You'll have every bit of WWE NXT matches on HD, yet we won't be able to see that many Calgary Stampede matches in full, ever. Frustration.

What ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder She's done so many interviews & junk over the years that I can't remember which one it was she mentioned it in. I want to say it was in one of her columns on wrestling observer or one of her podcast aperances on the site whear she talked about it but i'm not 100% on that. That's so sad. She ruined herself with the surgeries. She was so gorgeous, she didn't need any work done.

It has happened already. In 1993. It's called Dreamslam.

Love that theme. I believe someone had it before Rey, but I don't remember who. Oh, yes, it was actually a reworked version of Brutus Beefcake's as Zodiac. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dwy13X7_xY...feature=related I loved the rip-off themes too. DDP's "Doesn't smell like teen spirits." Chris Jericho's "Unevenflow". Raven's "Don't come as you are". Guerrero's last theme was awesome too, to the point it was picke dup by WWF. The late 89/early 90 "real" music theme were incredible : Funk to Morriconne was one of the greatest entrance ever, but it's almost cheating with such a masterpiece of a theme. I always liked Kanyon's, with the ominous organs at the beginning, and the cool riffs : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1dffvInw Of course, one of my all-time favourite : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVe1O_Iccrc...;feature=fvwrel

Which begs the question : what if Bret had stayed with WWF ? It can mean huge changes. There's no way Austin mania doesn't happen, but what's with Mr. McMahon ? And despite Shawn being on top until WM14, then he's forced to leave because of injury, and Triple H on his own doesn't have the huge political power yet, does that mean Bret gets back into the light by the Summer of 98 ? If McMahon vs Austin still happens (as the seeds were planted before Bret left and the infamous "Bret screwed Bret" promo), does Bret Hart, as a heel, gets in position as McMahon's corporate champion (that could have been awesome) and renew his feud with Austin ? Bret wasn't hot about the new direction of the company, does that mean that the stuff gets less raunchy ? When you think about it, Bret not leaving could have opened a lot of interesting possibilities. Bret vs Rock would have happened...

Making a pause with WCW, I'm filling the void of my ECW watch from a few year ago, basically the Hardcore TV that aired at the same time as ECW on TNN. Always heard HCTV was better than TNN, which was indeed pretty bad. No Joel Gertner co-hosting makes it already a huge plus. Getting back into ECW from that era sadly reminds me how much the promotion had sunk. Thankfully the Dudz just left, and Taz was on his way out (couldn't stand Taz as babyface ECW champ). Hopefully not too much of Balls will air on HCTV. And I get to see more Tajiri which is always pretty awesome.

Of course. But it's still lame as hell.

Well, Ric Flair trying to steal Liz from Savage and pretending he had her before Savage certainly smokes Rock and Cena exchanging dumb ass insults on Twitter as far as a pro-wrestling angle goes.

How exciting. I hate wrestling in 2012.

What ?

Rock and Cena have a "twitter war" ? ..... ..... ..... .....

Oh, that promo. It was Hogan giving it to WCW doggystyle in the ass. Brillant. Destructive, but brillant.

When I was a kid, I thought Sega was American, because Sonic sounded American to me. Dumb kid.

Ok. I admit I have no idea of his status today.

British dudes copying American rock n roll and blues artists. This isn't the same "copying" we're talking about.

They don't even need to build Mania to be honest. Cena vs Rock will do monster business no matter what. From teh perspective of a guy who can't care for WWE, I'm mor einterested in Mania that I've been in years, simply because of Rock's return in the ring. Plus I look forward to Punk vs Jericho. Taker vs HHH I couldn't care less. If Taker's entrance is as good as last year's (which I doubt), that will be the only thing interesting to me. Is Shaq the quivalent of L.T. ? Really, I don't follow basketball at all, but I was under the impression this guy was a star in the late 90's.

Don Callis could have been a good manager, but he came too late when the role was already passé. He was good on the mic, was annoying, looked like a total weasel and could bump his ass off. But The Jackyl never was given anything good to do (seriously, The Truth Commission, Kurrgan and then the Parade of the Oddities which of course turned face after two weeks or so), and the Network angle in ECW was rotten. Plus he had to feud with a face Joel Gertner, which was pretty awful. Another guy that got bullied by Bradshaw BTW.

Jesus, that's depressing. Facts like this almost make me feel sorry for Lance. He seems like a really nice guy and he does make some interesting insights, but the more you look at it, his career really was underwhelming. Considering both his in-ring talent (decent) and his charisma/promo skill (below average), I think his career has been pretty much what it should have been. Nice little run in ECW and WCW. A spot on WWF undercard. Add to that a few fun matches in Japan in WAR. I don't see what Lance could have achieve more than he did honestly. And yes, he seems like a nice guy, probably one of the few genuine nice guys without issue in pro-wrestling. I've been kinda hard on him in this thread, but I'm glad he's one who got out before getting severely injured and is able to enjoy a nice life afterward.

I've never seen it, but I think that it was a first blood match in which Flair bleeds and wins via pinfall. It is. Outside of that, it was indeed a pretty good match from what I remember, and mostly famous for being the last big numbers PPV WCW ever did.

I got a kick out of this : Indeed.

Exactly. What japanese pop culture big figure in term of music or cinema is also a big pop culture figure worldwide ? The answer is simple : none. Even in the realm of movie fanatics for instance, where a guy like Takeshi Kitano is well known, most have no idea what status Kitano really has in Japan, he's mostly known in Europe as an arthouse director.

Both.

In mid 91 they were teasing a Flair vs Horsemen feud as well. They did several interviews with Arn and Windham saying they wanted to take care of their singles career and get championships, then asked Flair what would happen if either of them would request a title match, which of course would annoy Flair. Of course the plan was still for Flair to dropo the belt to Luger, but the seeds were planted.

Roma was a natural heel. The two big mistakes about his introduction into the Horsemen were : 1/ making a big deal about it instead of playing the understudy card. 2/ being introduced into a face version of the Horsemen. It's about time to re-evalue Paul Roma. I agree the Young Stallion were a putrid team. Jim Powers was a terrible worker.