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[1995-04-15-ECW-Hostile City Showdown] Eddy Guerrero vs Dean Malenko
El-P replied to Loss's topic in April 1995
Odd. When I went trough my entire ECW watch last year, I ended up realy bored by every Eddie vs Dean matches. So, either it doesn't hiold up at all, either it's just not very good and is one of those Malenko wankjob long matches (see also Malenko vs Benoit at Hogg Wild 96) with shitload of matwork that doesn't go anywhere and zero personnality. I need to gave them a last chance though, but in the context of the ECW watch, I was just bored by them and couldn't wait for the next Sandman, Raven, Douglas or Scorpio match.- 17 replies
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Agreed. It made things look more real. Terry Funk stint in 1995 is the last time Funk looked "middle aged and crazy". From 1996 and on (in FMW first, then ECW), he looked "old and crazy".
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Hm. Didn't she leave shortly after she realized they would not use her as a wrestler much and would probably be forced to get a boob job ?
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Saturday Night & Main Event, plus Clashes & PPVs.
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Oh, Lord help me. The most WTF and uncomfortable moment so far is hearing Cornette explaining that Flair would be humiliated by losing to the first black world champion, when no other black man could do it for the last 86 years. Hum... what ??? Flair did cut a decent promo talking about how he would have Janet Jackson and Paula Abdul (oh, the cultural references of the early 90's) at his arms and they would not talk about JYD. Well that was stupid since they were doing nothing with Missy except having her looking super hot next to JR on the Main Event and be a cunt. No room to get two women over at the same time ? Bringing back JYD to do the "first black world champion" deal (which was kinda odd since Doom just got the world tag team belts anyway) ? Hum... feel the progressive booking here... I have the feeling I won't enjoy the next months of TV as much as I did the first 5 of 1990...
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So, basically, after Flair feuded with Ricky Steamboat, Terry Funk, Sting and Lex Luger he's now engaged against.... JYD, with the whole deal being that JYD wants to be the first black world champion. Not exactly turning the world on fire, although I guess it was supposed to be just a transitionnal feud before Flair would face Sting at the next PPV anyway. Also, Woman just vanishes after Capital Combat, without any mention of her. So, basically, she didn't do anything between this time and 94 when she showed up in ECW ? I never realized before she went a good 3 years without being seen on TV. The post Capital Combat scene really doesn't seem very interesting. Steiners vs Doom again, why not. But the idea of Sting ganging up with Tommy Rich, JYD and the returning Paul Orndorff (who I still can't buy as a face at all) against the Horsemen isn't very appealing to me.
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This is why I enjoyed Hollywood Hogan much more than Hulk.
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We don't need more wrestling/porn analogies.
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Tons of good points have been made about how goofy this whole deal is, but this one is probably the greatest. Wasn't Brock around during a real down time before things got better with the emergence of Cena ?
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[1995-02-04-ECW-Double Tables] Sabu & Taz vs Public Enemy
El-P replied to Loss's topic in February 1995
I don't think the problem is that it doesn't hold up well. The problem is that it always sucked. P.E. were godawful in the ring. -
My favourite story is the infamous "Great Muta is afraid of a kid" one. Apparently, some little kid punched Muta, and Keiji sold it, and during the rest of the match he would act scared of the kid each time he would go to the outside. If that's true, that's pretty awesome of Keiji Mutoh.
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[1995-01-22-WWF-Royal Rumble] 1-2-3 Kid & Bob Holly vs Bam Bam Bigelow & Tatanka
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
From what I remember, all four worked pretty hard. At the time I was glad to see Holly do something worthwhile for a change and Tatanka wasn't completely ruined by the heel turn yet. -
Public Enemy were only fun in vignettes. Their matches were mostly unwatchable.
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The fact that Raven came off like a pretentious whiner and bullshiter was also the point. That's why down to earth Tommy Dreamer worked so well as his mortal enemy.
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I loved Alex Wright. Loved the bright color trunks, loved the techno music theme, loved the stupid one-move dance like you said, loved the heel turn, thought Berlyn had tons of potential and was gutted to see the big stiff bodyguard get the push instead. A truly lost worker of the 90's.
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Loved that match back in the days. Last time I checked though, the SS match was even better, if only for the lack of goofy run-ins.
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Doom vs Steiner was their best match together, much better than any of the 1989 matches. Super stiff with bombs left and right, although they did fuck up the transition a bit, and didn't do anything with a brutal Reed piledriver. Cool finish, but it was obviously the exact same kind of finish used in the MX match, with the same effects (title change), which was a bit odd. Lex Luger vs Ric Flair in a cage was a great match before the rather shitty finish. I hate the concept of a cage match ending with someone actually getting in the cage and interfering. El Gigante debuts alongside Sting and Ross acts like he knows the guy, which was stupid all things considered since he was never brought up before on TV. And damn did he look clumsy and clueless. Compare that with the awesome debut he made in WWF... Anyway, the match itself was pretty great, Flair was still at the top of his game to me, and he actually puts the figure-four on the right leg for once. Neat pre-match bit during which the referee insists on checking Woman and actually finds a foreign object inside one of her glove. Gold. But damn, if Ole booked that finish, then *this* is the first brainfart of the Ole regime. Luger gets beaten up, and Sting saves the day, making it obvious he's the chosen one to dethrone Flair. Which kinda sucks, because Luger was really hot and looked like he was ready to take the spot. The inclusion of El Gigante and JYD in the mix just doesn't look promising...
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Is there photographic proof of this? Not just odd but so odd I can't actually believe such a thing occured. I made you two screen captures : Flair's got a ponytail Flair's got a ponytail 2 And you can see he was wearing it during that match too : Ric Flair (with a ponytail) vs Lex Luger Maybe Flair's first big hairstyle crisis before the infamous 1991 one.
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That's hilarious !!
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They sure got some fresh blood around Capital Combat. One week Barry Windham is coming back after his failed WWF stint to join the Horsmen back. The following week Ole unveils Sid as the fourth Horseman. Dutch Mantell and the Southern Boys debut on TV. And then you got Junkyard Dog coming back at CC, which is not exactly "fresh" blood, but he was still over I guess. And Flair is wearing a ponytail. Odd. I see how they downplay Robocop as much as they can, with all the heel color guys basically shrugging his involvment off as meaningless after the first week, Arn calling him R2D2, it's obvious they just didn't want to put him over as a big deal. Watched the first hald of CC, with the excellent MX vs Pillman & Zenk match, with great work from Eaton & Pillman, some great nearfalls you didn't usually see back then, and a (relatively) clean finish to boot. And the Rock'n Roll Express vs Freebird match which was as good as you can get from Hayes & Garvin, much better than I thought it would after the dreadfull 2/3 falls match. The RnR were awesome of course, but the difference maker was Hayes showing up and working as hard as he can. Never thought I would enjoy a Freebird match as much as I did after months if shitty work. Garvin still pretty much sucks though.
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[1995-01-22-WWF-Royal Rumble] Jeff Jarrett vs Razor Ramon
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
I haven't seen this in ages, but I used to like the entire Razor vs Jarrett feud quite a bit. They had a good chemistry, the three of them (Road Dog on the outside brought his share to the matches). I enjoy their WM match too. I've awlays been a fan of Jarrett 95-98. -
Yep. Compare that with Owen in New Japan two years before. It's kinda sad to see how WWF style fucks up good workers.
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I like the fact that they didn't pretend Raven was someone other than who he previously was. Raven smacking Stevie around was always fun, and their interactions was always gold during that period. I love the Raven character.
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[1995-01-17-ECW-TV] Music Video: Raven / Interview: Raven
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Despite grunge actually being dead at this point, this was as pop-culture relevant as US wrestling could ever be. Really striking difference with what WCW and WWF was doing at the time. Raven was also the first depressive wrestling character I think.- 6 replies
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