Matt D

I'm a lot iffier on the reactionary text message posting than the initial suspension.

Did people see the Post article with Titus' text to the company released? There's something hugely messed up there. http://nypost.com/2016/02/10/fans-call-vince-mcmahon-a-racist-for-suspending-black-wrestler/

No this:

Nikita Koloff crushing David Crockett. Dusty brawling in the locker room too. The post Royal Rumble 91 promo. At one point, I'm sure 95% of the people here might have answered "Benoit and Eddy standing there with the belts." It was a moment made for us that we never thought we'd receive. Never even imagined.

How do people feel about Andre pulling off the cross? Piper slamming the beer bottle over his head in Portland is up there too. And the Concession Stand Brawl!

Incidentally this is why I see ZERO Flair in him Obviously I hate HHH, but let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Flair had no problem making his opponents look strong and himself weak. But Flair had times where he didn't carry that all the way through and do the job like he should have. The best example of this was his feud w/ Luger in '88. The time was right for Luger to beat Flair and become champion. It didn't happen. Would 1988 Flair have put over Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania like HHH did at WM 30? I think so, but I also think it's worth discussing. No way. 2013 Flair hated putting Daniel Bryan over because he didn't drink and party.

That's weird. I thought we didn't have them for some reason. I'm probably thinking Tito vs Dibiase, where we only have the Sherri cam match.

We have none of the Tornado/Dibiase matches on tape.

I don't have time to do the legwork on these three right now, but they didn't make the AWA set. Anyone have time to take a look and report back on how Slaughter looked against some game opponents? (12 mins vs Saito)

I think this is ultimately a fairly silly argument to be having in the first place, but nothing said has dissuaded me from my initial comments, with the wording and semantics exactly as they were put. I was saying a specific thing. I still think that specific thing is true. I do sort of wish that there was A> a studio audience for MASH and B> that the audience rebelled for Radar, though.

I have to see the Taka match again.

I have Arn 173 spots above HHH

What happened to Barry Windham?

I'd be really curious to see the Maverick Wild matches again. Anyone remember if they were any good?

I'm sure you could get into both, but probably not while the pressure of GWE is hanging over your head. My watching habits will be different after April.

I've got Barry just about 20 spots higher than Ted, and frankly, I think I'm going to be higher than most people on Ted. Some of that is due to exactly what Phil referenced as a slight on Parv's list and that will be an admitted slight on mine. I'll have strong lucha and relatively strong UK representation but a dearth of the Japanese and women.

I posted my comments on the Last Man Standing Jericho match yesterday or the day before. I think almost all of HHH's big matches suffer from bloat and would be better and tighter if 5-10 minutes were lopped off of them. That's one reason why the Bryan match worked out so well. Generally, I don't think his great matches are great, in part because they contain the same inherent deficiencies as his worst matches. They're all on shaky ground. Some of them just collapse under their own weight more than others. Hunter, to me, comes off as a "pretend wrestler" much more than a lot of wrestlers who get pegged as that.

It's a general HOF argument about Edge's work. That's where you see it the most.

I think it could be the most emotional segment or one of the most memorable, but it wasn't functional. It wasn't going to draw any money. I don't think it was artistically appealing. It was real. It's sort of like, if you had for the final episode of MASH, the last five minutes were all of the actors breaking character and talking about their experiences and how much this mattered as the crowd went nuts for them. It's more of an Apples and Oranges thing in my mind. I guess on some level, it makes the WWE and Wrestling look more important, but those are really vague things. Dave's never been the best at separating things, though.

This is an extremely unhelpful contribution to this discussion, and I don't really appreciate it. You've also taken us over the page, which I don't appreciate either, because my previous post is now buried. Then stop mentioning conventional wisdom as if it matters. It's your lifeline when it comes to whining about people not properly appreciating Dibiase and I don't think it matters to a single person here other than you. We watch. We judge. We rate. Is there any other wrestler in this process that anyone is using "conventional wisdom" as a defense on?

Just watched and really liked the 06/05/1982 Mulligan match. I imagine that the rematch isn't as good, but this made me actively want to seek it out. Great way to build interest for the next match. The opening four minutes were very back and forth, with Mulligan's toughness coming to play in a fairly compelling way, and the remainder of the match was very smartly centered around the question of whether or not the claw could be the weapon to take out Andre, with Andre really getting it over, both by going out of his way to counter it, breaking his bear hug to put on a top wrist lock, trying to get the glove off, working over the hand at times, Mulligan teasing it over and over again, and then, them prefacing it finally getting locked on for the finish on the outside through Mulligan opportunistically reversing Andre's corner butt smashes with it to the trap, which downed him and then made him stagger big when he finally started to fight his way back. Vince, here, did an excellent job selling the intrigue of it. If that could do this much damage to Andre, what would happen when Mulligan got it on the temples? Liked it a lot.

Everytime Parv brings up Conventional Wisdom, Maurice Tillet's ears fall off.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xczqpa_hart-foundation-vs-u-s-express_shortfilms I love the finish on that match. Nothing really to do with Rotunda, mind you, but hey, he's in the match!

Vaguely surreal.

His best stuff isn't even all that good, relatively.