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Has anyone watched the RR Benoit match lately? That's something I was at live. It was universally loved at the time. Some of the 2001 Austin series were universally loved as well. This stuff probably needs to be revisited. The Cena debut match. Some of the Lesnar series for both guys. Smackdown six stuff. There's a decent amount that needs to be looked at, I guess. I'm not going to be doing it though, not unless people who aren't already praising him come back with pretty universal praise. I think people need to look at the Henry match from 2006 and see if it's bad as Meltzer thinks (and he fully blames Henry of course). Actually, I've never seen it. I need to look at that match and I will.

Hey, I'm having fun at least. I can't speak for Parv, but this is probably what he lives for. I'm not going to push for Sting. Why? Because everytime I see his name the orchestral Crow Sting music comes into my head for an hour and I can't deal with that right now.

Is there a dumber wrestler out there when it comes to the art of pro wrestling? RVD was just high and apathetic. Sid had the general sense of what he was supposed to do. He just couldn't do it. Someone list me some names.

Doink and Hennig had two inconclusive matches on Syndi shows to lead to the Raw match, if I'm not mistaken. It was for KOTR entry. The Yoko match late in the year is fun too. None of these are groundbreaking or anything but I do think they help his case more than hurt it.

The Doink match was part of a 3 part series. This is probably more fun though. We can post matches here right? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdk720_bret-hart-mr-perfect-vs-lex-luger-r_sport

What do you think about his 93? To me, that's easily the most interesting year of his post-AWA career.

My only concern in this is that it might make us downplay individual wrestlers who were consistently great in tag teams.

See, wasn't that fun, Parv?

For many years, he did what he was supposed to, did it well, and had effective results in achieving what he was trying to do. There's something to that certainly. I think he also did it soundly for the most part. His matches are internally consistent. Some of them (vs Hogan, vs Berzerker, vs Yoko) can be pretty good, but maybe someone else could have found a far more interesting way to achieve the same results.

I'm glad you liked that Can Am match. I think it's great. I'm not sure I've ever seen the Lanza tag. I need to track that down. I'm starting to see something of a pattern here, which is that you rank pretty highly Dory and Terry, as a tag, in Japan, but not everything else.

The Kennedy cage match is fucking terrible but I actually didn't mind their singles match on PPV the month before.

From what I've seen we just have bits and pieces of matches from his Mid-Atlantic run. He was in Poffo ICW right? Do we have anything meaningful from there?

Well, yeah, no one beats Fuerza in character. He could try to get the ref to call a foul after a headlock. I was just happily surprised by Psicosis and his improvement through the AAA stuff I saw since I expected him just to be Rey's patsy. I am absolutely watching this tomorrow night though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3iw9SkOrSM

I've seen very little of his early-mid 90s work but I came out of it wanting to see a ton more. I think "better character" sums it up which is why I'm drawn to him, but I haven't seen nearly enough. He seemed very versatile and to really stand out as something far more than just "The guy who took Rey's stuff." Is there Nicho stuff I should see, OJ?

Vs. Lawler his rookie year. I think he has lots of good matches though, and even more good performances. I would be very, very surprised if he made my list though.

I read that as memes not meanies. That's the world of the future.

I thought he did well as a face in Portland. Maybe Adonis' most effective partner?

Incredibly agile when he was young. Incredibly gross now that he's old.

You'd think that would be his most natural work. I think I was at that London match. Is that the one with the SSP on the arm? If so, 20 year old me went nuts for that.

I have to write some Mike Jackson reviews.

Nothing quite proves the anecdote about him telling Eddy to sell less so he could get to the next spot more than actually watching the guy wrestle. Also he doesn't actually wrestle on the mat nearly enough, ever. He wouldn't make my top 500 even if I had to list Roadblock four times to keep him out.

I wasn't going to mention that bit.

Moondog Spot is absolutely a better candidate than Jarrett or Angle who are two guys who probably wouldn't make my 300 (well Jeff might). I wouldn't say he was better than KENTA yet.

It's the WON HOF and that means something, yes, but in general for the sake of the conversation we're having, it's 2014. Get with the program. For a lot of people, workrate isn't the most important aspect of being a good wrestler anymore. Around here, the conversation has shifted to at least allow the possibility that there is as much if not more value in other aspects. You can disagree. That's fine. That's great, but you are showing an extreme lack of understanding and empathy towards the people you are conversing with.

Heenan is a guy who is immensely talented, who is a favorite, but who is someone I'm not convinced we have the variation of footage on.