Matt D

Condolences to Khawk as well. He's done more than anyone to really keep alive the legend of the Mad Dog.

That's because you didn't shut your eyes and picture that jacket while he was talking.

There is absolutely nothing boring about this. That's like saying that this picture has the world's most boring guest timekeeper.

Most of the people who say Muraco have seen a ton of Muraco. I don't have a huge opinion on the matter, except for the fact I wish we had more of his Florida stuff. I really liked what i saw of him just beating the snot out of a super young Barry Windham. But yeah, people, when they're arguing, aren't arguing from a point of ignorance.

Yes, and the fact that he's named on that Home Alone poster actually strengthens the idea of him having some name value. How many WRITERS get top of the line credit? Richard Curtis was also "only" the writer on most of those films I mentioned. Hughes was a producer too. That's sort of how old Hollywood worked. The Producer would get the billing of it being "A Louis B. Mayer Film" or whatever.

Swede Hanson should have been his chef.

He's not, but if he was, it'd be one of these. Wait, that's not right. That this specific thing exists, sort of scares me, actually.

I guess it's a sign of all the people we've picked up here through the podcasting and what not. I forget sometimes that we have people who aren't on DVDVR too.

There is that one Mid-Atlantic Best of 1977 show with the fun Mulligan/Blackwell match, a lot of talk of the Paul Jones turn, and the recap of the Flair/Steamboat. I'm just saying!

If I don't have time to look at Lioness Asuka matches, I definitely don't have time to look at Natalya ones.

Just with some extra added elements of storytelling due to a slowly growing trust trust between the heel factions and Punk being great on the apron and one really great Daniel sequence that ended with this huge power bomb. Neither here nor there, but Rollins has really come a long way from where he was even a year and a half ago.

Now do the Rogueaus.

Honky could have had a bodyguard, certainly. (The counter argument is Jarrett and the Roadie, but that didn't have YEARS to build up the potential energy).

I think it would have worked just as well with almost anyone. Maybe not in ring, but I'm not sure the in ring mattered there so long as Virgil won at Summerslam. I think Honky could have managed that or Valentine or most midcard WWF heels (maybe not Bravo) I also think, honestly and completely, that Sherri was the MVP of Dibiase's 1991. For people who went through the set, did she stand out? I'd be amazed if she didn't. She did to me when I was going through that stuff, far, far more than Dibiase did.

Hardly. I am a man lackadaisically flailing about to list counter arguments. Shoot them down.

That feud was all about Piper then, and Sherri. Seriously, has Vince EVER done anything with that much build, even if most of it was passive? It was probably the single payoff in the history of the WWF with the most weight of time behind it.

You pay off an angle that'd been building for years without teasing the audience and it gets over. That's not so surprising. It has nothing to do with Dibiase and everything to do with Vince's patience

Yeah, honestly, I'm kind of tempted to say "Final Battle!" and all the stuff leading up to it, but really, start with 85. I know, it sounds like I'm crazy but, all of us, almost every single person on this board has JCP/WCW somehow in our formative wrestling experiences. We almost all caught it as kids or teenagers, whether watching Crockett and the Four Horsemen and RnRs and Valiant or or J-Tex and Flair with a bag on his head or watching Sting get mystery boxes and the Dangerous Alliance or having Hogan come in and RUIN EVERYTHING or the NWO coming on the scene and Crow Sting and hilariously good mid-card matches that'd never mean anything or just the drizzing shit it became. It's part of how we came to know wrestling. It's part of our DNA. If you're someone who's never encountered that at all, with nothing preconceived, there's nothing better that you can do but to jump right in at the start and just live as much as possible. The weekly TV from 85 is a lot of fun. There's a lot to really enjoy. There are a lot of handheld matches from that period to give everything some weight and heft and meaning. I kind of wish I could watch all this stuff again for the first time. You're pretty damn lucky. Don't waste it by starting at the end or even the middle.

He was fucking awful in WCW, on every level. Probably the worst all-around worker there with Stevie Ray and Brian Adams. La Parka/Silver King vs Kendall Windham/Curly Bill WCW SN 11-2-99 I am specifically looking at whether or not Mike Jones is good here. I wanted to find the Curly Bill vs Lash match that Eric liked on Segunda Caida but I'm going with this instead. He obviously has quality opponents here. Immediately, he tries to punch Silver King who blocks it and thigh kicks him. Jones sells it by stooging huge, hopping around and eating a thrust kick. Silver King tries to whip him into the corner but he reverses it. Silver King climbs up the ropes and Jones does this great ducking weave thing to shoot under the back flip and follows with a huge clothesline that Silver King sells big. Some decent stomps, once nice downward punch, and a really mean slam before Jones tosses him into Windham's boot. Silver King stumbles into a neutral corner and Jones hits a chop. He tosses Silver King into the ropes and King does a whip around recoveral. Jones misses a fairly slow clothesline and gets hit by a spinning wheel kick. I think Silver King was going for a top rope dive but he went to the Rednecks' corner to do it and Kendall clobbered him. Virgil grabs a leg and knocks him down so he can tag Kendall in. So yeah, Kendall Windham was pretty fun here. Lots of long limbed offense. It's like watching a balding Mr. Fantastic or something. Anyway, long story short, this leads to chinlocks, a comeback, and a quizzically set up hot tag, followed by Jones eating some offense and a Windham boot as a foreign object to save the day for the Rednecks. I don't think he was totally smooth in keeping up with Silver King, but he stooged well and his offense looked pretty good and a lot of what he's been given credit for in this era has been limbwork and that didn't come into play here. Here's what Eric said about the Lash match and what he said about the Frankie Lancaster match If I could find either of those easily I'd take a look at them. Found another match. Vincent vs Lizmark Jr May 22nd, 1999 Worldwide I can't call him "Curly Bill" but I can call him Vincent. Vincent has a great jab that he does right ot Lizmark's face out of nowehre. Really nice spinning neckbreaker too. He's working the crowd which is nice and probably easier at a Worldwide taping than elsewhere. He can't eat a spin kick for the life of him but he can eat dropkicks and does so here twice really well, once going out to the floor through the second rope. They do a transition where Vincent punches Lizmark mid plancha, which is a good thought even if the execution is just okay. Really nice selling of a Lizmark punch flurry. Good punch drunk look, then this great little casual step away to avoid a corner splash. His single arm DDT is really swank and is followed by his smooth little transition into the fujiwara arm bar, which he really leans into, and that's the match. Again, it's not a match with armwork and it's against a luchador but I think this was a better showing than the tag match and he did a lot of things well here. I remember really liking a Vincent vs Barry Horowitz match from 99 SN but I haven't seen it in a while.

You get the sense Rip Hawk was just groaning and thinking "Calm down you little puke."

Ah! I know. TNA should offer him a lot of money.

Virgil got a hell of a lot better by late 92/early 93. He had some squash matches in 92 where he just killed the poor guy. He was also a late era WCW SN Superworker.

Tito had a massive connection to the crowd for years

I love Maddox on commentary. He's a riot.

Of the Saturday TV we don't have for early 81, one is Buddy vs Andre, one on one. That kills me. I just want to see Buddy Rose vs Andre the Giant. Is that too much to ask? I don't ask for much.