Matt D

I'll say this about meaningless depth. You watch enough 84 WWF TV and you come to really appreciate all that meaningless depth in 88.

Over on DVDVR we decided the best choice was Punk/Lesnar vs HHH/Ryback.

I think that he also had different aims in a different territory than Flair. To me, the AWA booking from 80-83 or so seemed very reluctant to actually put heat on the heels and it rather celebrated the babyfaces, all while having a heel champ and a lot of bs finishes. Bock, to me, is a guy who knows what he wants to accomplish as a worker in almost every match I've seen him in and then he goes out and accomplishes that. For instance, in the Ladd match, he comes in to make Ladd look like a monster, to beg off and be afraid, to come back with really measured leg attacks and then with chokes/nerve holds that'll be fierce enough and brutal enough and even cheap enough to piss Ladd off enough that he gets suckered into the finished. Bock comes out of the match looking smart enough to goad the monster but the crowd knows that he escaped by the skin of his teeth. Ladd comes out looking like a righteous monster and the crowd knows that if he ever gets another shot at Bock there's a great chance he's coming out with the belt.

Hogan's response to Luger set some new record even for him for the number of "brotha"s. It's insane. It's almost every other sentence. In just less than one minute he says it (and I counted) ten times. It's pretty amazing.

There should be a FAQ

I totally forgot we had that Hogan vs Cena note. I've got nothing then. I just wanted to post that picture mainly. I really loved that Wrestlemania Challenge game as a kid.

I like how his dropkick the other night looked like the dropkick from WWF Wrestlemania Challenge from the NES. I saw Sabu vs Cena the other night. That was a lot of fun. Sabu was rabid. Here's a question. Who garners sympathy better vs a monster? Cena or Hogan?

I like how his dropkick the other night looked like the dropkick from WWF Wrestlemania Challenge from the NES. I saw Sabu vs Cena the other night. That was a lot of fun. Sabu was rabid.

The level of arguments we get in here is interesting. For instance, Flair's booking matters in a WON HOF thread, and Lawler's promotion matters there, but neither matter on a GOAT sort of way.

Curious: Do you think that drawing every week in the MSC is a harder gig than being the travelling NWA champ?

They ran the same building every Monday night. I don't care how much you care about a wrestler, you can't draw a crowd week after week that way unless people care about the feud. I think it was the hardest gig in wrestling. Granted, you wonder how much the lack of pro sports teams helped.

Where have we ended up here?

And then when we go off and back up what we say with lots and lots of data you go.. "Oh, I see what you meant now even though I still disagree, but I am no longer going wtf, because I am better than those closed-minded HBK fans!" And then we shake hands and you go back to forcing people to watch Portland footage so that the 80s project can continue.

I meant when the point was initially made. You were aghast.

I'm ok with the "in your opinion" thing. You don't have to list that every time, absolutely. But your opinion therefore makes you an ass because you're not even willing to entertain someone else's opinion!

His run with Perfect was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. I like him more with the Beverly Brothers, but he does better with them against the Bushwhackers than against LOD.

This might be mean gene's finest moment. By the end of the segment, the fans were acutally really into it.

I don't really see how his career survived 98, except for through his friendship with Russo. It's the combination of going on TV decrying the Double J gimmick and then slipping back into it a short time later and then getting shit on by Austin who was happy to stun him a few times but refused to work with him. Those are two of the most damaging things I can think of this side of Mark Henry and Mae Young.

I hate Jarrett in 93 in Memphis. They were giving him the "I have superstar friends" and the "New Fabulous One" push and it was downright painful. He turns heel at the end of the year and instantly becomes more interesting.

What about Jeff Jarrett & Robert Fuller vs The Moondogs, USWA 01/17/92

I know we lack MSC footage in the early 90s, but there's not a memphis match that made tape better than Jarrett vs Shawn?

There's an 80s AWA comp you should buy. Go talk to Will.

I like how they set up the Power and Glory vs LOD feud here.

Henry does the small things so well. He knows exactly when to give and how much. He knows when to jaw with the fans, with the ref. He knows when to sell and when to shrug off. He knows when to grind down on an opponent and when to let up for a hope spot. And everything he does looks huge and impactful. He'll bump huge when he needs to. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone work big better than him.

Unsurprisingly given this write up, I love the Bossman vs Earthquake series, with the Royal Albert Hall match one of my absolute favorites of 91 WWF.