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Matt D

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  1. Matt D

    Sid

    Regarding Sid's 98-00 work, I always had the sense that he was trying very hard, but that whatever he was doing was not pro wrestling. He didn't quite understand the rules. Maybe he learned from a correspondence course. It was sort of like having a very talented athlete be taken off the bench in the middle of a football game and think that he was playing, I don't know, softball instead.
  2. Went totally over my head as a kid since I had no idea that Kerry was the Modern Day Warrior.
  3. Poor bastard. Sure, Smothers and Morton are nothing to sneeze at. But.
  4. I think on this board we know what we get into the second we log in. There are plenty of other places to go on the net and talk wrestling, and even one or two which are normatively similar enough that you won't be goggling in disgust.
  5. http://thehistoryofwwe.com/superstars87.htm We've got "Cobra Clutch into Russian Legsweep," "Back Elbow from the middle turnbuckle," "Spinning toe hold," "scorpion deathlock." Lots of that elbow in 87, into 88. Graham has the 4/10/88 wrestling challenge airing for.. Ted Dibiase (w/ Virgil) defeated Jim Evans at 1:52 via submission with the Million $ Dream (the first match in which the finisher was referred to as such)
  6. Could he even successfully slap the Dream on Herc? I see Dibiase as a guy who would use it to bully smaller wrestlers.
  7. Rotunda's late 92-93 is better than his 91-early 92, I'll say that having watched a lot of stuff recently. I've not yet seen his singles run into 94 or his tag stuff with Bam Bam or Tatanka or whoever, but I was actively surprised by how much I enjoyed him in late 92.
  8. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xajkga_mo...=1#.UPQUqOTBFyI Is that the Nasty Boys match you saw? Is it just me or are tags now gone from Dailymotion (as in hashtags, metadata)? That makes it almost impossible to tell what match you're watching. Very annoying. That's the Nasty Boys vs Money Inc match i quite like (though Saggs is weirdly lethargic at points, as if he's injured maybe). Really though, it's Irwin that stands out.
  9. Please imagine this in my best Judd Nelson making fun of Anthony Michael Hall from the breakfast club voice. "I like this!" "I like that!" "That's great that you like that!" "That's great that you like this!" "Well, have a good day." "You too! Have a super swell day." I think we've had a month or two span of some great notes and the reason, as always, is that people back up what they say (or at least try to). I say they continue to do so or else they will be the subject of horrible peer pressure and ridicule. On PWO you're not just allowed to like what you like, dammit. Here, you march through the walk of death on hot coals with paddles smacking you each step of the way.
  10. That we do. But we also understand the fact that it can be aberrational to what everyone else is talking about.
  11. I do think that some of the problem is that in order to defend a wrestler he wants to defend he has to loop in the rest, so he's going for the definition which best helps his cause.
  12. Is there actually a Neidhart/Warlord match? I kind of want to see that. Just for the sake of science.
  13. If we're counting Money Inc, past the Steiners feud, they had some real good matches with the Nasty Boys in late 92, but IRS did the lion share of the interesting stuff, surprisingly enough.
  14. The one thing that really is maddening is his bios. He writes like Herodotus. He jumps around like mad with some crazy backwards logic.
  15. Hercules isn't really that bad. Virgil wasn't any good until late 92 though. He was very good come late 90s Saturday Night Tapings.
  16. One of the biggest reactions I have heard live was for Ice Train. Dozens if not hundreds of wrestling shows I've attended live and Ice Train got a top ten pop. Just sayin The Cole Twins were frigging over.
  17. This is pretty much how I feel too for what it's worth. BUT there are people to whom it matters more.
  18. Not having seen any of this stuff since 93, and even then, having missed a lot of it when it happened, I was under the impression that the whole Lex Express stuff was a terribly thought out, mismanaged, horribly executed, bomb. I know as a kid I didn't get how they expected us to buy that one day he was the Narcissist talking in a funny voice and wearing a cape and having a mirror and the next day he was USA Lex. Actually having watching the TV, I'm not entirely sure how they could have done it better. It was tremendously well done. They really stacked the deck in the favor of the angle and I think they should get a ton of credit for it because it really did have a high level of difficulty That said, obviously they blew the payoff.
  19. Fowler debuted at Summerslam. He took over the Survivor Series Center and Event Center stuff after Gene left. He's pretty onerous. I really love Face to Face though. I can't say that enough. One would miss out on a big chunk of 1993 WWF if he just watched the Raws.
  20. Crush really had a point. Savage didn't come in and save him because he was worried about getting fired for interfering. That he eventually did was heroic. That he took so long to do so was damning. All of this was great, but my favorite thing was probably the calls over the weeks before, where Crush was super uber babyface on the phone with Vince but would shun Savage. I do think they really mismanaged Crush in 93. He was super over at the start of the year but they took him out for months due to Doink, put Doink over at Mania, had a sort of go-nowhere match with Michaels at KOTR, apparently threatened him so he wouldn't go into business for himself on July 4 (which is a great story even if untrue), and then put him out for months to put Yoko over in the lead-in to Summerslam. I'm not sure how much of that was injury, though.
  21. For instance, I was really impressed in the WWF Rock 'n' Roll Express debut in 1993 how loud a Rock and Roll chant Gibson seemed to be leading the crowd in because it was in Portland, ME, which as far as I know, isn't exactly RnR territory. Now, at the same time, I think it was taped for All American so it was one of the first matches of the night, before the crowd got tired from 2 jobbertastic syndi tapings. BUT I'm only going off Graham's site for match order on the card. For all I know they taped All American between the Superstars tapings really. Etc.
  22. We could go on for pages about how much crowd response matters, for instance.
  23. I feel like we've been going all out the last month or two as is. I think we look at things pretty deeply in depth. There's room to look at more, granted. And yeah, it's definitely a normative thing. If we're all talking about one thing, you can introduce another element, certainly, but in doing so, realize that you're introducing another branch of conversation.
  24. It depends on what sort of argument we're having, really. A GOAT argument is different than a WON HOF argument. A "Who is better" argument can be different than a "Wrestler of the Year" argument. I think that a comparative view of what a wrestler DOES in every match he has is more important than how many Great Matches he has. So that's a difference of opinion of how to judge purely in-ring stuff. You're arguing that we shouldn't be judging purely in-ring stuff as the main point of conversation on the board to begin with when I think a lot of us are most interested in that. You see why it's tough to get traction here?
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