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  1. Matt D
    Dylan Weeps
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    This, to me, is one of those matches that actually has me point at Warrior (not Dibiase) as a guy who can follow direction.
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    Morton was very over. Check out the crowd reaction to some of those early angles. Flair also drew 15,000 when Road Warrior Hawk challenged him on the Great American Bash tour in Philly. Vince didn't need to run Hogan/Michaels. Both were babyfaces. Bret vs Savage is really the closest a tag team wrestler got to interacting with the top singles stars in the era, and that only happened one time. The point was that the NWA treated their tag teams as stars on the same level as their singles performers, where in the WWF, they were an isolated division. I'm not saying it's not without its own set of flaws, but I am saying that the NWA would have suffered more from the loss of the Road Warriors or Rock & Roll Express than the WWF would have from the loss of the Hart Foundation or British Bulldogs. There are some examples. Hogan and Savage had the Twin Towers angle. Hart wasn't just involved with Savage in a match but also in the angle where they helped Honky to set up the Mega Powers in the first place. Hogan+Demolition+Jake was a pretty high level Survivor Series team. But yeah, in general, it was just not the way WWF operated. They booked long term programs in very stultified ways. On the other hand, I actually think that by running multiple tours, the top tag teams might have been more important. I'd love for someone better at it to run the numbers, but I think the Bulldogs were draws. I think US Express was a draw. Or Demolition. Or the Harts. How often did they helm B and C shows? How did those shows do. Those are my questions.
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    Part of me feels like this note is a dastardly JvK trap for me, so I am keeping a cautious distance.
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    You had tag champs anchoring B WWF House shows. I nominate John to look at that and attendance figures.
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    His shoot is okay so far as shoots go. The beginning of his career is actually fairly interesting. You get, more from him than from anyone else I've ever listen to a shoot of, the sense that "yeah, it was just a job." The best part is when he talks about the boat. And yes, I love the promo where he's yelling at his secretaries. That was really the start of his post Money Inc life. Also, I love this picture. Neither here nor there, but one thing I've gotten from shoots is that almost all of my favorite wrestlers are either the guys who grew up with wrestling in their lives or grew up watching it. There are a few exceptions, but just a few. According to Patera, Flair had wrestling magazines strewn around his room all the time before he got into the business. Basically, all the best wrestling is just fan fiction.
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    Sid

    Matt D replied to MikeCampbell's topic in The Microscope

    Regarding Sid's 98-00 work, I always had the sense that he was trying very hard, but that whatever he was doing was not pro wrestling. He didn't quite understand the rules. Maybe he learned from a correspondence course. It was sort of like having a very talented athlete be taken off the bench in the middle of a football game and think that he was playing, I don't know, softball instead.
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    Went totally over my head as a kid since I had no idea that Kerry was the Modern Day Warrior.
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    Poor bastard. Sure, Smothers and Morton are nothing to sneeze at. But.
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    I think on this board we know what we get into the second we log in. There are plenty of other places to go on the net and talk wrestling, and even one or two which are normatively similar enough that you won't be goggling in disgust.
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    http://thehistoryofwwe.com/superstars87.htm We've got "Cobra Clutch into Russian Legsweep," "Back Elbow from the middle turnbuckle," "Spinning toe hold," "scorpion deathlock." Lots of that elbow in 87, into 88. Graham has the 4/10/88 wrestling challenge airing for.. Ted Dibiase (w/ Virgil) defeated Jim Evans at 1:52 via submission with the Million $ Dream (the first match in which the finisher was referred to as such)
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    Could he even successfully slap the Dream on Herc? I see Dibiase as a guy who would use it to bully smaller wrestlers.
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    Rotunda's late 92-93 is better than his 91-early 92, I'll say that having watched a lot of stuff recently. I've not yet seen his singles run into 94 or his tag stuff with Bam Bam or Tatanka or whoever, but I was actively surprised by how much I enjoyed him in late 92.
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    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xajkga_mo...=1#.UPQUqOTBFyI Is that the Nasty Boys match you saw? Is it just me or are tags now gone from Dailymotion (as in hashtags, metadata)? That makes it almost impossible to tell what match you're watching. Very annoying. That's the Nasty Boys vs Money Inc match i quite like (though Saggs is weirdly lethargic at points, as if he's injured maybe). Really though, it's Irwin that stands out.
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    Please imagine this in my best Judd Nelson making fun of Anthony Michael Hall from the breakfast club voice. "I like this!" "I like that!" "That's great that you like that!" "That's great that you like this!" "Well, have a good day." "You too! Have a super swell day." I think we've had a month or two span of some great notes and the reason, as always, is that people back up what they say (or at least try to). I say they continue to do so or else they will be the subject of horrible peer pressure and ridicule. On PWO you're not just allowed to like what you like, dammit. Here, you march through the walk of death on hot coals with paddles smacking you each step of the way.
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    That we do. But we also understand the fact that it can be aberrational to what everyone else is talking about.
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    I do think that some of the problem is that in order to defend a wrestler he wants to defend he has to loop in the rest, so he's going for the definition which best helps his cause.
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    Is there actually a Neidhart/Warlord match? I kind of want to see that. Just for the sake of science.
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    If we're counting Money Inc, past the Steiners feud, they had some real good matches with the Nasty Boys in late 92, but IRS did the lion share of the interesting stuff, surprisingly enough.
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    The one thing that really is maddening is his bios. He writes like Herodotus. He jumps around like mad with some crazy backwards logic.
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    Hercules isn't really that bad. Virgil wasn't any good until late 92 though. He was very good come late 90s Saturday Night Tapings.
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    One of the biggest reactions I have heard live was for Ice Train. Dozens if not hundreds of wrestling shows I've attended live and Ice Train got a top ten pop. Just sayin The Cole Twins were frigging over.
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    This is pretty much how I feel too for what it's worth. BUT there are people to whom it matters more.
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    Not having seen any of this stuff since 93, and even then, having missed a lot of it when it happened, I was under the impression that the whole Lex Express stuff was a terribly thought out, mismanaged, horribly executed, bomb. I know as a kid I didn't get how they expected us to buy that one day he was the Narcissist talking in a funny voice and wearing a cape and having a mirror and the next day he was USA Lex. Actually having watching the TV, I'm not entirely sure how they could have done it better. It was tremendously well done. They really stacked the deck in the favor of the angle and I think they should get a ton of credit for it because it really did have a high level of difficulty That said, obviously they blew the payoff.
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    Fowler debuted at Summerslam. He took over the Survivor Series Center and Event Center stuff after Gene left. He's pretty onerous. I really love Face to Face though. I can't say that enough. One would miss out on a big chunk of 1993 WWF if he just watched the Raws.
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