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  1. Matt D
    It's also comparative. It's not just what they do but what the people directly in competition with them do. Ultimately, though. The issue is this. Not everyone will be equal in every ways and it's in the eye of the beholder what "weighs" more. Some people value certain aspects more than others.
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    To me it's the difference between great and greatest of all time. He can do this and still be great and even the greatest at what he did. It's such a high level we're talking about a lot of the time.
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    They were pretty good at that with their super monster guys actually. Andre did a big injury angle for Earthquake and Typhoon in 91. Earthquake put over Yoko both in 93 and 94. Yoko put over Vader, and then Vader, on the way out put over Kane.
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    I actually think the switch between how the match was initial announced and what it became is one of the better evolutions storywise in WWF history.
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    I think this has a particularly good ending stretch. My favorite part is Mabel randomly beating up on the 1-2-3 Kid though.
  6. Matt D
    I love the bit with Tanaka paying homage to Fuji and Yokozuna before the match. There's also a fun and random Jannetty vs Tanaka match from this month.
  7. Matt D
    One thing I hadn't realized at all is that they used Lawler's DQ win at Summerslam to call him the "undisputed King."
  8. Matt D
    They played this out later, but we lost out on at least one probably fancammed Shawn vs Kid match because of the suspension. Since they were moving Perfect over to Diesel in singles matches, I wonder how long they planned on running Kid vs Shawn. Diesel was fine with IRS for a while.
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    Gravity.
  10. Matt D
    There are a lot of examples if we just look at WWF, whether it be Funk or Steve Williams, but looking at both of the big 2 makes it harder.
  11. Matt D
    So really a guy who was on top for a relatively successful territory but hadn't been in WWF or WCW much before 90. Weirdly the first name that came to mind was the Trooper/Patriot but that's not enough of a main eventer.
  12. Matt D
    this is a weird statement to me. Would John Nord count? Or Keirn as Skinner? Tom Pritchard?
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    I think Eadie is probably the best guy I've ever seen (fully admitting my massive black holes) at making every single thing he did matter and making his opponent work for every inch while still being absolutely giving in the name of the match. Now that's just one aspect of wrestling, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy in the ring who I felt knew what he was doing at every point more than Eadie. He's also hugely versatile. There's such a wide expanse between the Masked Superstar gimmick in Demolition, but as Ax he was able to play his role so well as a monster against smaller faces, as a chickenshit against superstars faces, vulnerable against giant heels, full of righteous fury vs chickenshit heels. And he could still turn it up a notch against the Rockers. And I've written a lot of words about this. Granted, that was a few years ago. Granted, I'm in a slightly different place and have watched a lot of wrestling sense. But i believe it.
  14. Matt D
    I need to put it here before it's too late. What I hate the most about the Beefcake turn is that Hogan won't even put his best friend, who is a guy who would never stab him in the back, in a position to draw money with him or get heat on him. Not even a guy he trusts completely and is completely dependent on him. That's how far gone he is in late 94/early 95. Beefcake doesn't get unmasked until after he already eats the legdrop. That's the single most maddening thing in wrestling history to me. Hogan beat him down, got his comeuppance, and only then does he get revealed. Sure he has the lame sleeper angle later, but its so backwards. You have Beefcake unmask after Hogan takes out ANOTHER masked guy, only to get assaulted, and he does it over Hogan's prone body. Or something like that. It's not rocket science. They picked the one way that it was absolutely assured to be heatless.
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    I love the Shark Attack finisher too.
  16. Matt D
    I fully admit I need to see a lot more of Bock outside of AWA and Memphis. That's mainly what I've seen. I haven't exactly been rushing towards the Brody match but I need to see it at some point.
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    It was Todd and Dibiase for a while at the end. It's a lot easier to find 1993 footage than from the few years previous, I'll tell you that. Graham's site doesn't even have results for a lot of those years. http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/allamerican.htm There are a bunch of fun matches in 93: Bigelow vs Backlund, the surreal 2/3 falls match between Tatanka and the Steiners and Doink and Money Inc, 123 Kid vs Martel and Marty vs Martel. A Super random Marty vs Pat Tanaka match. There's probably a ton of goofy Heenan/Lord Alfred footage from 92 too. There is apparently a Razor Ramon vs Gary Jackson match that was both on the 9/12 Superstars and the 9/13 All American, so there seems to be more original content in 93 than 92 but this is all guess work. If there's a better list out there I don't know about someone like me. Apparently there's a Taker vs Shane Douglas match from the 2/3/91 All American that was taped at a Wrestling Challenge taping. It's listed on Graham's site from the 1/8 Wrestling Challenge taping, but not as part of the All American taping. I don't see it aired anywhere else. There aren't a lot of obvious choices for All American matches that didn't air elsewhere on the next few Challenge tapings though. I did see a Koko vs IRS match for Wrestling Spotlight, though. What the hell was that? And at some point in Feb 92 apparently The Natural Disasters & The Nasty Boys vs. The New Foundation/Sgt. Slaugther/Jim Duggan was aired. Anyone ever see this? The idea of Owen teaming with Slaughter is surreal to me.
  18. Matt D
    We have the match from Barcelona already on Bret's first DVD. I have not seen the Milan match but I would be surprised if it is worked differently than the one from Barcelona or KOTR. I would have included the HV match with Luger from 5/25 or the HV title defense against Bam Bam from 3/8 (if they really wanted to get a match against Bigelow). The KOTR and Barcelona matches are wildly different but I do get your point. Instead of the Luger match I'd include the handheld of Luger/Ramon vs Perfect/Hart. Can't they seize that stuff as their own?
  19. Matt D
    So on the October 4, 93 Raw, the one with the Battle Royal to set up Martel vs Razor for the IC belt, they have a Heavenly Bodies squash and Heenan, while sitting next to Vince on commentary, announces he'll have the RnRs on All American (his show) this weekend, and that they were the number one tag team of the 1980s. And Vince doesn't contest it but instead seems terribly impressed. Very surreal thing to hear on WWF tv.
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    The way they introduced Bam Bam really wasn't that bad, to be honest.
  21. Matt D
    I badly want to see that Harts vs Money Inc match.
  22. Matt D
    WWF was so regimented at this point. It's hugely different from 91-92 WCW where you'd get a random six man on almost every show. It's not at all like today where over the course of one year every wrestler will pretty much wrestle or team with every other wrestler at some point. The house show programs would go four or five months without much variation. You might get an occasional oddball PTW match, yes, but there was just one or two of those a week. I loved old Survivor Series because you got to see guys interact with each other who normally didn't, on both sides of the ring. Dibiase/Hart is a great example, but seeing Honky stand next to Dibiase is just as fun in some ways, especially in the promos leading up to things.
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    I think every Survivor Series should have something like this, and the Ultimate Survivors get a title shot at the Rumble or something. As a kid, this immediately made me think Tito was a big deal.
  24. Matt D
    I spent a number of years jumping from pimped match to pimped match, and it's so much more satisfying to me now to watch whole years in context. I've gone through the 90s for WWF revisiting some of my youth and then moving on to stuff after I stopped watching in 92-93 and I think I enjoy Luna Vachon on Face to Face and Heenan calling Steiners squashes as much as I like watching the really top matches of the year. Watching a whole season of mid-south or Memphis with all the matches we have available in the middle is just a better experience to me than watching match after match, no matter how good they are.
  25. Matt D
    I mean.. Aren't we ALL Thinking that?
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