Matt D

1. The close-ups of Rowan's face are pretty much gold. 2. It's actually pretty weird to watch modern WWE product when you have watched a bunch of wrestling in the last few months but none of it was from this decade. The camera cuts, the announcing, the pacing, etc. Whatever I've been watching lately, it's not been this.

Yeah, I missed a lot of the match (lots of parenting going on here) but saw everything after the chair came into play and that was a hell of a thing.

I saw the last 1/3rd of Miz vs Nak and liked it well enough. Sami's spirited in his role. Obviously the selling was a bit capricious and Miz had some sluggish moments, but in general, it was fun stuff.

You deleted your twitter feed so you can post on a wrestling website?

The only truly notably thing was how quickly he was googling stuff to run circles around his elders.

There are a hell of a lot more cars in his lane than ours.

I'm halfway through the Eric Goes Home episode and by far the most interesting thing is that Chad Brock was a real life Double J. That's one of those validating things in wrestling like Flair hitting a move off the top rope.

So much better as a wrestler than Brody in every way. er, I mean...

That Buddy Rose died just before his work really came back into light seems fitting.

They should just lean into it and have him be the special ref and close the cage door on his head. 90% of the audience will have never seen that before.

A Jericho vs Cody match should end with someone coming in to set up Cody's next feud. They can only get away with that so many times, but they can definitely get away with it two or three times.

The way Cubs put it, and it's hard to disagree, is that it's quantity over quality. Two apuestas matches (one with the gimmick, the other a novelty since it's minis and new), two title matches, and a revelos increibles. They've learned over the last few years that they can draw with almost anything. Moreover, his analysis was that from the booking, they couldn't come to a deal on the one-on-one hair match they wanted so they just put a bunch of people in there with a deal that they could make. I'll probably check out the mini's match later, but it's a pass for me in general.

Don't know of any list. Honestly, your best bet is going through this thread. We hit most of the marks.

The best thing about these (or Superstars on the Superstation/Summer Slam Specatculars,etc.) is that there's a finite amount of them, so every one that they put up takes us a step closer to getting something from the archives we didn't have available before.

It's not like multi-man lucha cage matches are ever any good anyway? Even when there's not confusion on when they can start to leave the cage, you get, at best, a couple of fun moments of temporary alliances and betrayals at best. What's the best multi-man lucha cage match? What's one good multi-man lucha cage match?

There's no way it'd be the MTV broadcasts and not the MSG shows.

They're pushing the IC title hard on the website, so I'm holding out for some rare matches with the belt (maybe even some Patterson). Otherwise, of course, the hope is the first few King of the Rings. MTV shows would be a disappointment.

1. Are there other known or knowable data points we're not seeing? 2. Do you know these data points? 3. Would you care to share them with us? 4. In the absence of you or someone else doing so, you understand that these are dots people are hesitant to connect and there's no real further place for the conversation to go, save for base speculation?

Good to know. Thanks.

Do we have any sense of the mid-south matches? I know we have at least one Taylor vs Street match from that era. It's weird they have the main of that Nottingham card. It's also kind of annoying as literally every other match on the card is more interesting than Orton vs HHH: WWE (Raw) @ Nottingham, England - Arena - April 13, 2008 DH Smith defeated Carlito Caribbean Cool Paul Birchill defeated Val Venis Santino Marella pinned Brian Kendrick with a roll up and grabbing the ropes for leverage WWE Raw Tag Team Champions Hardcore Holly & Cody Rhodes defeated Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch; after the bout, Cade and Murdoch argued over the loss ECW World Champion Kane pinned Chavo Guerrero Jr. with the chokeslam WWE Women's Champion Beth Phoenix pinned Mickie James with the cradle suplex; prior to the bout, Beth attacked Maria, who had been throwing t-shirts into the crowd John Bradshaw Layfield pinned William Regal with the Clothesline from Hell in a No DQ match; the match came about when JBL cut an in-ring promo on England WWE IC Champion Chris Jericho & CM Punk defeated Umaga & Snitsky when Jericho pinned Snitsky with the Codebreaker Triple H defeated WWE World Champion Randy Orton via disqualification when Orton hit the challenger with the title belt; after the match, Triple H hit Orton with the belt and dropped him with the Pedigree

And selling is the language pro wrestling tells a story with.

I hit the point earlier this year when I realized I should just be posting on wrestling classics, or whatever. I became that person that I openly mocked ten years ago. I'm pretty happy with my wrestling watching right now, though. Very little new stuff, even CMLL which I was following heavily a few years ago. I keep track of certain things, but it's like anything else: enjoy what you want on your terms. It's nice to have social interaction on all of this. I wish people would respond more to the new footage stuff we do on Segunda Caida or that I ran Secret Santo a little more successfully, but some of it I do to myself by not being on twitter, etc. That's the other thing about getting older. You tend to have a lot more going on in your life that ISN'T wrestling. I devote just about all the time I can to wrestling. Sometimes it's tough to slip in the three matches a week for New Footage Friday between work/kids/other hobbies, etc.

In 2019, 10,000 wrestling fans is a lot of wrestling fans.