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Guy in the crowd with a "Survivor Series 2013 sucked" sign. Sucked so bad he bought a ticket to another PPV card?

Didn't Savage switch to the body suits to hide how small he got when he got off the gas? My vote for worst ring attire goes to Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart in 1998 WCW. He wore that Hart Foundation leather jacket from the WWF the previous year and the logo had flaked or peeled off in patches. It's what you'd expect to see at a tiny local indy show, not on a major cable program from a national promotion. Triple H's old purple vinyl tights from the fall of 1998 were pretty awful, too.

Jeff Cobb.

FWIW: It was called "GDTV" initially. This is seared into my brain because my then-nine-year old brother thought it was called "GOTV" since the first vignette he saw was Val Venis and Big Show taking a piss. On an episode of Heat they wrote it out with Thrasher revealing it during his feud with Chaz Warrington. It did appear from time-to-time after that in the WWF in 2000 when they needed it to.

This made me think: What was the deal with them doing double-juice main events in WCW in 1999? Wasn't that forbidden back then?

Bryan Alvarez recently said on one of his podcasts that Piper was going off script and Hogan was trying to reign him in. I figure he got that information from reviewing the Observer coverage around that time.

Tatanka had a long undefeated streak and later one of the few genuinely shocking heel turns in the company (even though I saw it coming) + he beat Luger when wins and losses still mattered and Luger was still a big deal. I was never a Tatanka fan, but he did have an impact for 2-3 years. Okay, I'm convinced. Seems like Waltman will be going in too if I had to guess. Hopefully the Fabulous Freebirds, and maybe someone like Stan Hansen. If WrestleMania XXXIII does wind up in Minneapolis maybe they'll induct Waltman then?

I thought Neville and Owens had a hell of a match. It was nice to see two guys in a world title tournament wrestling like the world title meant something and pulling out all the stops. I don't think they needed to kill the reverse 'rana for a quick near-fall, though. The R-Truth match made it obvious how much WWE needs squash matches with enhancement talent on TV weekly. I doubt Truth moved ratings up or down any more than some unknown indy guy would have. It would allow Tyler time to get his moves over and it's another 60-90 seconds of TV time not spent on another ring intro for the jobber. If there were regular squash matches it would make something like Ambrose vs. Ziggler seem more important, since we wouldn't have already seen it a few dozen times on TV this year. Also, Tyler spent way too long laying there on his back while Truth went through all his theatrics for a shitty leg drop. That and JBL burying the character on commentary really didn't help Tyler. I wonder if that was Vince talking through JBL? And that angle at the end... completely unnecessary and tasteless. They spend weeks trying to create a convoluted storyline with Paige vacillating between being friends/enemies with Charlotte and when they can't figure out how to advance the story they just dig up that Charlotte's brother died of a drug overdose. I can't imagine how the conversation went backstage with whoever presented the idea to her and had to convince her to go along with it. Does this mean at Survivor Series we're going to get a video package recapping this terrible angle with cutaways of photos of the Flair children when Reid was alive? I hope not.

Something about "Attitude-era" WWF in the fall of 1998 turned me off for a long time. I was a teen but I didn't care if I saw boobs or not on my wrestling program. The WWF completely stopped presenting wrestling altogether and I just quit watching, opting instead for Nitro at that time. And those three-hour Nitros in late 1998-mid 1999 were a chore most of the time. WCW 2000 when Vince Russo won the title. I had a visceral distaste of Russo dating back to the previous paragraph and seeing what WCW was becoming was enough for me. I did wind up tuning back in just before they died, though.

Hogan and Hart, as noted above. What the hell was the point aside from having someone else in place to turn on Hogan down the line?

Definitely the YouTube show.

Hell I found some house show results of a card I attended in 2003. I didn't remember John Cena being in the opener and Brock freaking Lesnar (with the Undertaker) in the main against the FBI.

This was just too perfect. It's on my DVR, too, and I still try to watch it now and then but most often it gets erased when new episodes of Teen Titans Go! or Uncle Grandpa (my son's) pop up.

Dave said they'll be allowed to continue airing until the end of the year. They have Bound for Glory on the schedule and a few house shows but no TV tapings have been scheduled. Apparently the Jeff Jarrett-GFW angle was just to get Jeff to divest his remaining share of the company and TNA will not be going back to being Jarrett's vanity promotion? Serious question: Does Jeff Jarrett really feel he's enough of a star to anchor a promotion that hopes to one day compete with WWE?

I agree; at first I thought they were clipping the interview. It was a fun show and nice to finally hear someone on WWE programming say that Ted Turner never really thought much about Vince McMahon. I wonder if they'll continue to "Turner had a vendetta because Vince wouldn't sell to him in 1988" line they had been running with. I really liked JBL as an interviewer. I'm looking forward to more of these shows. According to Wade Vince doesn't want to be part of the show anymore but it would be interesting to see a JBL-Vince interview at some point.

Maybe Cena lobbies to get his training buddy Cesaro a U.S. title match on the card against him? It doesn't seem like Cena has anyone else on the horizon unless they bring back the open challenge.

Fuck's sake, indeed. Characterizing this as a battle for liberty? What fucking garbage.

The opening segment was pretty good. The Wyatts and the faces brawl was believable. Yeah, Johnny, that Big Show promo was pretty damn good. Nice to see some longer matches. They might actually start treating the Divas title like it matters. This Kane feud seems like something to build to a Raw main event, not a PPV/Network special.

The crowd popped for Kane so that means six more weeks of this.

Wait, doesn't this card deserve gold ropes around the ring instead of white?

No, he has to prove himself to the Greatest WWE Superstar Ever in History so he'll do two 20-30 minute defenses.The greatest superstar ever punted points in an Ironman match to gain an advantage. Surely he would understand this strategy. Touche

No, he has to prove himself to the Greatest WWE Superstar Ever in History so he'll do two 20-30 minute defenses.

Rollins white outfit is just begging for a five-alarm blade job.

When you need someone to job to a new guy call on Jericho.

Jesus, will they shut the fuck up about the Attitude Era already?