flyonthewall2983 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Quicker turnaround on new Raw and Smackdown episodes (I understand why this isn't the case, but it's STILL a problem to the average consumer regardless of the reasons!) I don't understand why the networks just let them post the episodes a week after they air. It's not quite the same case, but FX has the unorthodox method of putting their stuff up On Demand a week and a day after they air. It would make sense for Universal to allow WWE to do that, as they don't really rerun the episodes themselves anyway (besides the Raw A.M. thing they may still do, I'm not sure though). One thing I like that they're doing is the "Beyond The Ring" stuff. Tonight has their Road Warriors doc which is one of their best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherspammer Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think RAW and Smackdown don't go up on the Network right away because of their deal with Hulu. Although, Hulu also shows NXT and Superstars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Maybe this is random but I would love for WWE Network to have all the old episodes of Confidential uploaded too. I really liked the WWE Cribs thing where you could see how the wrestlers lived. I distinctly remember Al Snow owning an absurd number of hockey jerseys. They do use some of the Confidential segments as interstitial footage on the live feed - I've seen the WWE Cribs segment for Trish Stratus that way, along with a couple of old Mr. Perfect promo videos. It seems like, for a lot of this stuff, they're happy to hide it on the live feed, rather than having it out there as separate, searchable clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 They should just approach Hulu about buying out of that deal early if it's just a Hulu thing. NBCUniversal would be probably less likely to go along with a deal, and they DO run replays of Raw & Smackdown on Saturdays on their Universal HD channel. Not being able to keep up with Raw on The Network was another thing that killed my interest. I never watch Raw in real time and I don't really watch stuff on TV period so I thought it would be nice to not use alternate means to watch Raw but the month delay made it impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Maybe this is random but I would love for WWE Network to have all the old episodes of Confidential uploaded too. I really liked the WWE Cribs thing where you could see how the wrestlers lived. I distinctly remember Al Snow owning an absurd number of hockey jerseys. I'd love to see that too, but it would probably get awkward with the episode where they basically accuse Lex Luger of killing Elizabeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I would think they would ax the more controversial segments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I would love to see the episode after Austin's 2002 walkout again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Listen to this podcast.... http://placetobenation.com/good-will-wrestling-fixing-the-wwe-network-part-two/ Chris and Charles have the best conversation on he WWE Network that I have heard on a podcast yet. I agree. This was great stuff. This was my first time listening to the podcast and now I feel like an idiot for not listening to these shows before. He'd probably go crazy from trying to instill logic in an illogical company, but I'd love to see Chris get a job with WWE and help them straighten their shit out. Also it must be a Texas thing, but I wasn't expecting Will to sound like Sam Elliot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCabana Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ha! I emailed Will the exact same thing about a week ago, that he sounded nothing like what I was picturing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 The Vince McMahon and Scotch at 3 AM Show sounds like the greatest idea anyone's ever had ever. Speaking of Network stuff, I tried using the Xbox 360 app since I was doing some work on it earlier. My god is that a heap of shit. I have 105mb internet hardwired to my system and the front page takes forever to load. I ended up going back to my PS3 that has a wifi connection and everything worked without a hitch. Anyone who uses their 360 as their sole streaming device probably should not even consider the Network (or probably already canceled if they did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 What really baffles me is that it seems like they are doing nothing special for Summerslam except showing the PPV and showing the older ones. If Summerslam is their 2nd biggest PPV then it should be treated on the Network as such. They have 3 or 4 of these round table shows scheduled and NONE of them are on the network. They could definitely have one access like shows. It is funny how the opinion of UFC Fight Pass is the complete opposite of the Network. About 4 months ago the UFC was getting hammered for what they were doing. Now they seem to be the real standard on how it should have been done. It seems like every week there is new stuff and when there is a PPV they almost flood Fight Pass with stuff with videos, Q&A, and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 The Verge has a story here on the WWE Network, one thing mentioned in the comments I never thought of as being a deterrent: current episodes of Raw/Smackdown being delayed a month before they go up. I know it's because of contracts and what have you, but today's binge-watching consumers expect to be able to watch current episodes of shows within a few days max. The rest of the TV industry has trained viewers to expect quick turnaround, and WWE is stuck in a bad spot. This is a good point - I was honestly a bit surprised initially that this was not the case, although I understand their constraints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Kind of surprised I got a WWE network E mail reminding me I have a month till my subscription ends. It reminds me it automatically renews . It also tells me where to cancel. I was shocked about the cancellation help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Chargebacks are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 The remaining SNME's went up today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yep, that staggered SNME rollout really upped the excitement. They can't be dumb enough not to do a Raw/Nitro back to back morning block, right? Feels like that would get me back on the train of throwing on the Network in the morning before work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 It's really weird to hear Randy Savage working as a heel-ish announcer on the 4/27/91 edition of SNME, just a little over a month after he lost the retirement match at Wrestlemania VII. Though he does admit to knowing how hard Sherri can hit when she interferes in the Hart/Dibiase match, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 They are through July 1995 for uploading Raw episodes. With them uploading about four shows a week they could be up to the Nitro launch date in September 1995 in not too long. So possible with the Monday Night War they have been plugging since the beginning that we could see Nitro episodes start to get uploaded in the next couple weeks. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It's really weird to hear Randy Savage working as a heel-ish announcer on the 4/27/91 edition of SNME, just a little over a month after he lost the retirement match at Wrestlemania VII. Though he does admit to knowing how hard Sherri can hit when she interferes in the Hart/Dibiase match, I guess. Aside from realigning with Liz, his face turn seemed very gradual. Heck, he was cheering Taker when he stuffed Warrior in the casket. I always assumed the proposal was when he was a face again officially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It's really weird to hear Randy Savage working as a heel-ish announcer on the 4/27/91 edition of SNME, just a little over a month after he lost the retirement match at Wrestlemania VII. Though he does admit to knowing how hard Sherri can hit when she interferes in the Hart/Dibiase match, I guess. Aside from realigning with Liz, his face turn seemed very gradual. Heck, he was cheering Taker when he stuffed Warrior in the casket. I always assumed the proposal was when he was a face again officially. Yeah I believe his face turn began during the Jake vs Warrior segment as you can hear him go from cheering Taker and Jake to be extremely disturbed by them and thought it was going to far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigelow34 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Yeah he was heelish until around when Vince & Roddy started teasing his upcoming proposal. WWE.com Classics used to have all of the 1990-1993 Superstars episodes up and it definitely caught me off guard how much longer he was heel after Mania. And yeah, it definitely seems like they will time having Nitro firing up when Raw hits September right around renewal time. Hopefully they will start a Raw/Nitro block every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 http://www.avclub.com/article/can-simpsons-world-learn-wwe-networks-mistakes-207484 Can Simpsons World learn from WWE Network’s mistakes? Launch of the WWE Network has been underwhelming. I was as excited as anyone to have the opportunity to have thousands of hours worth of footage at my fingertips, a direct vein into the entertainment of my youth. But the actual experience leaves me a bit cold. While trying to find precisely what you’re looking for isn’t difficult, the app is far from being as intuitive as it needs to be when it comes to navigating so much content. The most fervent of wrestling fans may have no trouble when it comes to figuring out which matches happened where and what will appeal to them at any given moment, but the Network needs to appeal just as much to more casual enthusiasts if it’s going to become as fruitful as WWE needs it to be. And while streaming has held up better than expected—especially during events causing heavy server load like WrestleMania XXX—the combination of slow content roll-out (give me Attitude Era RAW or give me death) and that clunky app interface leaves me and 700,000 other people with an experience in no way as expansive as we might have expected five months post-launch. There are a number of ways in which the two streaming services differ, but one in particular leaves Simpsons World at a significant advantage. For as much chatter as there is about HBO Go becoming a separate subscription service and as much as the WWE Network struggles as such, The Simpsons and FXX find themsevles in the fortuitous position of not having to worry about separate subscription numbers. The concept of being tethered to a traditional cable channel is novel in the new-media age, but it may be that the shelter of traditional consumption is exactly what’s needed when it comes to ushering in a groundbreaking digital venture. Simpsons World also diverges from the WWE Network model by featuring ad breaks during streaming episodes, underlining the fact that streaming content always comes at a price—it’s just a matter of whether the customer pays or an advertiser does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm having trouble understanding how Simpsons World and the WWE Network are comparable. The WWE Network is a service that is completely unrelated to a pay tv subscription and must be bought separately, while Simpsons World is directly connected to a pay tv subscription and doesn't require a separate purchase. As long as Simpsons World has all of the episodes (and I don't see why FXX would lie about something like that), and it's easy enough to find a particular episode, I don't understand why people would complain about it. It's about providing more value to pay tv subscribers, not about trying to get casual fans of the Simpsons to pay for greater access to old episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Next paragraph of the piece: "That said, while the WWE Network looks like a separate business model more than that of Simpsons World, there’s nothing to say that the latter won’t run into many of the same issues that ultimately undercut the success of the former. The Simpsons World presentation at TCA impressed even the staunchest of critics, but a pitch-perfect demonstration of a digital platform is a different matter than delivering on the promises made in that demonstration. Moreover, what happens if this platform, with all of its revolutionary potential, doesn’t launch fully formed? What if the “Every. Simpsons. Ever” app launches and you can’t get every Simpsons ever on your smartphone? What happens if you’ve been promised 552 episodes and you only get 250? What does a comprehensive collection look like if it just isn’t comprehensive? It looks like WWE Network." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 WWE Network is clunky as hell, still feels like it's in the beta testing phase, and there are all sorts of little problems with each app (for example: none of the early '90s SNME episodes are showing up on Roku, but the '80s and late '90s are there - and there have been other problems of that sort throughout). Simpsons World isn't comparable at all for one simple reason: It's using the HBO Go model. You have to be tied to a cable subscription to get it. If you have no cable TV (and no beer, which could make you… something something), you'll have to make due with short clips. (Source) Apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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