Sidebottom Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 For irony, John Cena should be awarded his 16th title from Kevin Nash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Are we sure this isn't just WWE realizing that they need more guys at the top of the card over the next few years and keeping Cena out of that scene? Or is that too logical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Are we sure this isn't just WWE realizing that they need more guys at the top of the card over the next few years and keeping Cena out of that scene? Or is that too logical? No it is definitely more likely than the theory. The WWE has never shown an ability to have such a planning acumen to pull it off. It is definitely more likely a preemptive strike with an eye on the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 They actually mentioned Flair's US title runs on Night of the Chmapions and booked John Stewart to have Flair as his reason for the run in. The theory isn't just correct. It's demonstrably so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 They have been better about surveying the land for hot takes and have been more willing to play along with preconceived notions when booking storylines but that doesn't necessarily mean they have this planned out to the extent you believe, or if they do, it would be more likely be because they have other reasons to do it. They had to start building to a life post Cena at some point. It is very likely that they have recognized now is the time to do it. It doesn't mean the theory will ultimately be wrong or anything but I am not entirely convinced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 They actually mentioned Flair's US title runs on Night of the Chmapions and booked John Stewart to have Flair as his reason for the run in. The theory isn't just correct. It's demonstrably so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 An update on this theory now is that HHH will get to 15 titles and then have a match with Cena to equal Flair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 That would actually be an interesting match to build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Main event of WM33!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I think I understand now what's going to happen. Flair being such a big friend of HHH's, comes out and advocates for him. He's going to be in HHH's corner, or something like this. OR, he declares himself neutral. But mark my words, it's going to be Cena vs. HHH to tie Flair's record with Flair involved in some way. MAYBE as a Steamboat vs. Flair tribute, they can have Flair as a judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Odd as it may sound but I'd rather Triple H being the one to get the record. I don't really want him to be rewarded for all the crap he's pulled over the years but that achievement is more tailor made for Triple H's character throughout his career on top. Cena strikes me as a guy who really shouldn't care about that stuff at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 With Triple H currently in the reign of 'win the title, don't defend it until it's time to lose it', I don't think there will be another HHH reign to tie Cena, much less two for 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Would you like a sports man's bet on this Alucard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 We don't make ridiculous bets enough around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I guess we'd have to set a timeframe. HHH's 50th birthday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 As odd as it sounds, I don't think Ric Flair is over enough at this stage in the game to pull that off. He's a relic from a bygone era that most younger fans *only* remember seeing as an old man, not as the actual world champ. People react to him when he comes out with Charlotte, but not much more than they react to someone like Dolph Ziggler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 They would require hype packages and so on to build it up in the young fans' minds. Preferrably a package that shows the moment of Flair winning all 16 titles capped by him on the retirement Raw on everyone's shoulders. Run that for a month on Raw and the idea would get over. Then similar packages for HHH and Cena winning their titles. WHO WILL TIE FLAIR'S RECORD, THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE WINNER. I think, if booked right, it could be a huge angle. And I also fully believe that they will run it. Vince, if you are reading, send the cheque to my Paypal. Thanks bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think they can make almost anything seem important with enough build, at least in the short term. We saw that with Reigns' title win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 There are two reasons why I am so confident in this happening by the way: 1. They mention the number of titles almost every time you see Flair, Cena or HHH. 2. John Stewart. I will make the bet with anyone and might even think of a compensation prize if I lose:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think you're wsy too fixated on John Stewart, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Having a highlight package showing all 16 wins might not be the best idea when you consider how he won his last few titles in late WCW. Didn't Nash basically give him the title once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 If they can make an impressive reel out of Undertaker winning a match by DQ or countout against Giant Gonzales at Wrestlemania, they can gloss over poorly booked Flair victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't think several of them even exist on tape to my knowledge. You can intersperse newspaper headlines, footage of him cutting promos with the gold. And then have like numbers. ONE Headline of Flair beating Dusty for title Footage of Flair in Mid-Atlantic studio cutting promo with the gold. Footage of him beating a jobber with a figure-four TWO Starrcade 83 Footage of Harley promos Footage of Flair with injury THREE Footage of Flair beating Kerry Von Erich Footage of Flair in claw Footage of Flair in Texas FOUR Footage of Dusty cutting Hard Times promo Footage of Flair in fur coat Footage of Dusty in fur coat Footage of Flair beating Dusty .... You get the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I was wrong, there IS footage of the first title win! I'm glad that set has found its way online, it was one of the things I lost when I lost my hard disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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