Timbo Slice Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Couldn’t even get the KENTA/Punk match together, Tony, you’re fumbling the bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 KENTA actually being honest on Twitter about not wanting the Punk match and not being a case of him chasing (or building towards) a match for the PPV is pretty wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 FWIW, Super-J Cast is reporting that Punk is gonna wrestle Kojima at Forbidden Door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Stump Puller Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Kojima gonna carry another fool to a good match in 2023, who knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 KENTA talking mad shit for years and then ducking his biggest match in like a decade absolutely tarnishes his legacy and how serious we should take him. Marufuji was always better, wise ones knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainJerker Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 It's a swerve. Punk vs KENTA will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Punk vs Kojima is hella random as Kojima has mostly been working AJPW/NOAH in tags for the past year. I don't think he's had a big singles match in NJ since 2021. I liked the idea of MJF actually no showing the match with Tanahashi and Punk stepping in. The time for KENTA vs Punk was ages ago, neither guy is what they were, and I don't think they'd actually mesh very well anyway. Meanwhile, Tana/Punk could do a bunch of Cena spots to pop everyone. There's so much talent without anything announced just from the AEW side that it's actually fucking wild when you list out the roster they have. I hope there's another wacky Sting/Darby team up this year. Maybe even get Jericho involved so more people can cover up that mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Taya was laying some shit in tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Starting Dynamite now.....God bless him for outkicking his coverage but I have no idea what Toni Storm sees in a nerd like Juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Punk wearing a Danhausen shirt, real recognize real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted June 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Edward Kingston in the final segment of the show as God intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Shibata/Orange vs ZSJ/Garcia a banger as expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Brody vs Andrade for Collision, lets go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Another solid show for AEW, love the pop for Okada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Excalibur saying Danielson vs Okada was the "main event" of Forbidden Door took me by surprise. Of course they can still do the ol' "we have two main events" thing and close with Kenny vs Ospreay anyway but it is intriguing that they are teasing an Okada v. Dragon ending. I honestly don't see any scenario were Kazuchika doesn't win so him closing the PPV with a W and posing would be pretty crazy....and the most King of Sports thing I could imagine in 2023. Wild times indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Bryan vs Okada should 100% main event Forbidden Door, that's quite possibly a one in a lifetime match, dammit. Could've been an AEW title match but Tony Khan decided to give a wredditor the top belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jmare007 said: Excalibur saying Danielson vs Okada was the "main event" of Forbidden Door took me by surprise. Of course they can still do the ol' "we have two main events" thing and close with Kenny vs Ospreay anyway but it is intriguing that they are teasing an Okada v. Dragon ending. I honestly don't see any scenario were Kazuchika doesn't win so him closing the PPV with a W and posing would be pretty crazy....and the most King of Sports thing I could imagine in 2023. Wild times indeed. I get it tho, it's the two best wrestlers possibly of all time in a match. It's a "this could never happen" dream match that is actually happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 hours ago, sek69 said: Punk wearing a Danhausen shirt, real recognize real Akin to Hogan rocking a Brutus Beefcake shirt. Gotta give some shine to the dude who carries your bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subatomic_elbow Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 I wish Punk would stay in his Collision ghetto instead of ruining Dynamite, too. The announcers Poochied him all night and I'm right back to last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 6 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: Bryan vs Okada should 100% main event Forbidden Door, that's quite possibly a one in a lifetime match, dammit. Could've been an AEW title match but Tony Khan decided to give a wredditor the top belt. I'm sorry you're having trouble coping with the fact that MJF has been more successful as world champion than The Miz ever was, but seething over it every week can't be healthy. 19 minutes ago, Zoo Enthusiast said: Akin to Hogan rocking a Brutus Beefcake shirt. Gotta give some shine to the dude who carries your bags. In that case, he should rock one of these: https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/wrestler-t-shirts/acesteel.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wrestling 2000 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 i loved the ending, i was unsure after the last match ended and there were 2 promo segments left but damn that ruled. That show got me really excited for FB2 and as a bonus im so ready forMox vs Eddie after. Mox will be going down after 3 back fists obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: I'm sorry you're having trouble coping with the fact that MJF has been more successful as world champion than The Miz ever was, but seething over it every week can't be healthy. It's fun, bubba. I mean, saying "Max is a better champ than The Miz" sounds like damning with faint praise anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 MJF is still getting one of the healthiest crowd reactions out of anybody on the roster; he's not really the problem here. That said, this was a middling go-home Dynamite overall. So much of the booking here felt like TK waiting until the last minute to write his big term paper - it seemed like there were two weeks' worth of storytelling to frantically cram into one show: - The additions to the Elite/BCC feud were way out of left field and were totally secondary to the actual issue; Eddie's announcement of Ishii as the next guy was almost comical, with Ishii stomping down into the ring to get turbo-squashed in seconds just so they could rush into their big Danielson/Okada confrontation. - The MJF/Cole segment felt more about establishing their tag team for the upcoming tournament, with the Tanahashi setup being played more like a punchline for Cole than anything meaningful. - The OC/Shibata/Garcia/Sabre Jr. four-way announcement came out of nowhere and effectively took the steam out of the tag match finish, since nothing about it had really been teased there as a possibility for FD. - Even the CMFTR/Bullet Club stuff at the top (which, alarmingly, didn't blow the roof off the house in Chicago) built towards the next Collision with virtually nothing cooking for the PPV. In particular, just tossing out CM Punk's first singles match in months as an afterthought for Forbidden Door -- and for the Owen Hart tournament?????? -- seems like a missed opportunity. Coming off of the inaugural edition of Collision, where the show seemed coherent from bell to bell and willing to let each segment have a singular focus, this episode of Dynamite had some major whiplash. Maybe it's just fresh in my mind because The Lapsed Fan podcast is finishing up their journey through Hogan-era TNA, but this felt very much like an episode of Impact from that time, with every segment being way too pre-occupied with achieving multiple objectives at once (and not really getting any sort of traction on any of them as a result). Sure, Forbidden Door is basically a "dream match" PPV in concept, but AEW still had an opportunity to do better than just throwing matches out there at the last minute, especially if they wanted to draw an audience into that show beyond the diehard fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted June 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 My guess is, like usual, availability became an issue for most talent (KENTA drama notwithstanding) along with the unfamiliarity of mixing Punk back into the fold. It also speaks volumes about how much the shows are laid out: Collision already seems self-sufficient in a lot of ways, whereas Dynamite seems like a place serving many bosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 What is interesting is that while the build has been rushed for many matches, it's not like the ticket sales have slowed down or anything. If your venue is almost sold out before you even reveal the complete card, maybe they didn't feel like a great job was needed. If PPV sales are around 100k then it's a huge success regardless of how they let things play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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