C.S. Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, The Thread Killer said: What the hell are you even talking about? At what point did I mention him being black? And I never saw the whole “Bearcat” deal with him. I’m simply pointing out his promos suck. Because they do. 2 hours ago, Embrodak said: I really don’t understand this “Criticism of Keith Lee’s promos is because people think he doesn’t sound black enough” soundbite that I’ve seen floating around. He doesn’t even sound non-black, he just sounds affected and unintimidating. It *might* work if he had a manager with a ton of attitude and it was a surprising voice to hear coming out of such a figure, and you heard only occasionally, like the first time you heard Brock Lesnar speak and he had a much higher-pitched voice than you would expect. But on its own, it makes him just not connect. Just to be clear, I never meant to imply that The Thread Killer said Keith Lee doesn't sound "black enough." I made a clumsy analogy to Vince's horrid Bearcat gimmick, where that did seem to be the reason for turning Keith Lee from an articulate killer into an angry black man stereotype. I personally think Lee's promos and presentation are different, and he's always been a breath of fresh air. Any other take genuinely puzzles me. And yeah, Brock's voice did not sound at all intimidating when he first started. He was a physical beast from the beginning, but the Brock "aura" took time to develop because of his promos and voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 As a kid I watched Mike Tyson murder fools all while sounding like Tweety Bird, so Keith and Brock's voices never bothered me much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 11 hours ago, The Thread Killer said: Overall it was a very good episode of Collision. I enjoyed it much more than this past week’s Dynamite. Early days, but I think Collision has managed to maintain a distinct identity from Dynamite even post-Punk so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Keith Lee's problem is that he's a huge nerd. Which wouldn't be a problem if he was able to put that to the wayside when he's in character. Instead, he's just a giant nerd while also still in character. So it's really hard to take him seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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