MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Why was Uno hiding under the ring? Dark Order were not banned from the contract. I like Johny Hungee and Anthony Bowens but that was meh, fast forward material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Incredible promo. Belt Eddie up and put him on TV every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 ORANGEHOOK!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, MoS said: Incredible promo. Belt Eddie up and put him on TV every week YES. In other news, sign me up for FTR vs Aussie Open at the next PPV. That match they had at NJPW Royal Quest last year kicked ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Thread Killer said: I dunno man, I love him in the ring when he’s on, but this whole soft spoken, “Greetings and Salutations” deal just comes across as so…weak to me. I think the idea of a big swole dude speaking in more verbose terms is far from bad - Kingpin is one of the most interesting villains in fiction partly because of that contrast - but with Keith it sometimes just comes across as goofy. He'll always have the Survivor Series '19 and the Acclaimed matches, even if he starts batting .000 from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 These Toni Storm vignettes are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: with Keith it sometimes just comes across as goofy. That’s exactly my problem with it. I’d be all for his promo style if it worked, but with him it definitely doesn’t. It just comes across as goofy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Man this crowd is pretty dead for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, The Thread Killer said: I dunno man, I love him in the ring when he’s on, but this whole soft spoken, “Greetings and Salutations” deal just comes across as so…weak to me. Hi, Vince. Your angry black man Bearcat gimmick was a major success. Oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, C.S. said: Hi, Vince. Your angry black man Bearcat gimmick was a major success. Oh, wait... What the hell are you even talking about? At what point did I mention him being black? And I never saw the whole “Bearcat” deal with him. I’m simply pointing out his promos suck. Because they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 why is this match still going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, MoS said: why is this match still going on At least The Righteous won. Watching The Hardys in 2023 is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, The Thread Killer said: At least The Righteous won. Watching The Hardys in 2023 is sad. Yeah them winning was a pleasant surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, The Thread Killer said: Man this crowd is pretty dead for the most part. I tuned out after the cool opener, I guess the little girls screaming her lungs out got tired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jmare007 said: I tuned out after the cool opener, I guess the little girls screaming her lungs out got tired? Yeah that was really funny. She seemed preoccupied with Ricky Starks, after he left she stopped screeching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, MoS said: Why was Uno hiding under the ring? Dark Order were not banned from the contract. I like Johny Hungee and Anthony Bowens but that was meh, fast forward material At least it looks like they are going to blow off this ridiculous angle on Rampage next week. I was afraid they were going to drag it out all the way to the PPV in October. But The Dark Order get their shot on Rampage, where nobody will see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Well the crowd came alive for the Doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 That became quite good at the end. The crowd being so hot helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Overall it was a very good episode of Collision. I enjoyed it much more than this past week’s Dynamite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrodak Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, C.S. said: Hi, Vince. Your angry black man Bearcat gimmick was a major success. Oh, wait... I really don’t understand this “Criticism of Keith Lee’s promos is because people think he doesn’t sound black enough” soundbite that I’ve seen floating around. He doesn’t even sound non-black, he just sounds affected and unintimidating. It *might* work if he had a manager with a ton of attitude and it was a surprising voice to hear coming out of such a figure, and you heard only occasionally, like the first time you heard Brock Lesnar speak and he had a much higher-pitched voice than you would expect. But on its own, it makes him just not connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 I read it's Starks vs Dragon in a Texas Death Match next week? I know he has the Saber match coming up but Ricky better win that shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Keith Lee reminds me of Beast from the X-Men, big bruising guy who speaks like a college professor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, sek69 said: Keith Lee reminds me of Beast from the X-Men, big bruising guy who speaks like a college professor. That gimmick would absolutely work if Keith Lee’s delivery was stronger. But he acts like he doesn’t even want to be there, almost disaffected and he stares at the ceiling, he barely speaks loud enough to be heard, and he falters when he talks. He is not an engaging public speaker. He doesn’t need to be Eddie Kingston, but a little conviction would be nice. If Jake Roberts taught us anything, it’s that you do not have to raise your voice or yell to be a good promo. But you do need to be able to deliver your dialogue convincingly. Keith Lee doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 He just has very strong "I tip my fedora" energy, bubbas. Doesn't help when he's out there wearing fucking horrible One Piece and Naruto hoodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 I thought I was only one who considered the Bearcat gimmick an upgrade. I thought the singlet looked better, but man, people hated it and Lee wasn't comfortable with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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