WWE TV Megathread

[The Thread Killer]

Damn that was a really good episode of Raw. Lot of great stuff in there.

[sek69]

Similar to our discussion about Jade, Lyra just isn't working. She's good in the ring, but she has the personality of dry toast. Maybe she would be better as a heel? Certainly couldn't be any worse at this point 

[sek69]

Two things occurred to me watching the Ricky Saints/Ethan Page segment:

1. I totally forgot Ricky was in NXT, so that tells you how well this is working for him.

2. Page's group of douchebro guys from Evolve are already looking like they could be money one day.

[El-P]

8 hours ago, sek69 said:

Two things occurred to me watching the Ricky Saints/Ethan Page segment:

1. I totally forgot Ricky was in NXT, so that tells you how well this is working for him.

He's still feuding with Ethan Page ?

I mean, I know this joke has been done before but... "This is Rampage baby ! This is the show ya'll be waiting for !"

[sek69]

OK, El Grande Americano has gone all the way from stupid to a German guy pretending to be an American guy pretending to be a Mexican guy.

Also the company that bought AAA doing a bit where it's someone obviously different playing a masked character but the announcers are calling it bullshit is just  *chef's kiss*.

[sek69]

Wasn't expecting a Keji Muto appearance in a video on NXT,  that was neat.

[The Thread Killer]

So apparently, this past week's episode of RAW was the lowest rated of the "Netflix Era."

Call me crazy, but as somebody who watches the show every week, I can't help but notice the direct correlation between the fact that the episodes which heavily feature Seth Rollins (especially Seth Rollins promos and segments) tend to be less exciting to watch, and inevitably they are much more poorly received.  RAW had been on a bit of a roll, the last couple of episodes prior to this week were actually really good TV.  And then?  More Rollins, less good.  I think a good rule of thumb is that if you are forced to listen to that stupid Seth Rollins theme and the fans singing along with it more than once an episode, you're in for a bad show.

It doesn't help that Rollins is starting to get a bit of a Triple H vibe going.  The guys who are just underneath to him in the pecking order are basically being fed to him, and it kind of sucks.  He beat Penta in the Main Event of RAW this past week, and I really don't see LA Knight beating him on Saturday.  Both guys are very popular with the fans, but we all know what the result is going to be when they get fed to Rollins.

You can dress this dude up however you want, and put him with Heyman, and the hotter young talent as his henchmen, but I still don't think it makes Seth Rollins work.

[sek69]

I wonder if Ricky Stark-Saints is second guessing his choices now that he's jobbing to the LFG winner on NXT TV. 

[C.S.]

1 hour ago, sek69 said:

I wonder if Ricky Stark-Saints is second guessing his choices now that he's jobbing to the LFG winner on NXT TV. 

What choice?

AEW wasn't using him.

Staying there and continuing to ride the bench wasn't a viable option, other than monetarily, and that was only a short-term gain. 

[sek69]

Clearly he fell out of favor, probably because he was very openly a Cody Guy, but he hasn't been setting the world on fire in WWE either. If I didn't know better it almost feels like when Vince would sign someone from the competition and then job them to to prove that this guys were better.

[El-P]

2 hours ago, C.S. said:

What choice?

AEW wasn't using him.

Yeah. They weren't using him because he made clear he was jumping as soon as his contract ended. The choice was to actually stay in the promotion that had (over)pushed him times and times again despite his tendencies to kinda *cough* fumble (see what I did ?) on promos and big matches regularly. He's the one who refused to do business after they gave him the tag titles with a flash win on fucking FTR of all people. He did not want to have that feud with Big Bill, he did not want to be a heel. He was obviously a pain in the ass and then made clear he was jumping. The idea that he did not have a choice is nonsensical. He made his own bed.

2 hours ago, sek69 said:

Clearly he fell out of favor, probably because he was very openly a Cody Guy, but he hasn't been setting the world on fire in WWE either. 

Maybe people have overstated the whole "Cody guy" thing and what it means. Cody is not the booker. 

Maybe there's something about all those people who were the biggest Ricky Starks fan ever when he was "held hostage by evil billionnaire Tony Khan" and who love to chant "Tony fumbled" (as oppose to ya know, supporting the actual worker doing his thing) don't care that much for him in the end and are getting tired of this toy now that Blake Monroe showed up... Just a thought... 

I must say, the fact that on All In week-end he was having yet another match against Ethan Page (a purefire Rampage match in AEW lore) in front of a barely sold out Center Stage, in an event no one talked about because of WWE's pettiness and their willingness to throw their own people under the bus, is quite ironic.

Also this : Ricky Starks was always overrated by people. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed him, back from his NWA days. But he never had those great performances AEW is built on (apart from the Danielson matches, but this is basically saying Private Party had those great performances with Young Bucks). He was not *that* great of a promo guy either, he had the tendency to ramble about a whole not of nothing. He also never sustained his push in term of being over. 

In WWE he's a shorter guy who looks kinda like Dwayne who killed his own bargaining power by making sure he only had one option.

[El-P]

Also, TNA champ (yuck) Trick Williams getting bitched out by old-ass Trump Taker after *that* Slammiversary is fucking hilarious.

TNA reddit : "but it's great for TNA, Taker is the biggest star ever, we drew 7K, D'Amore couldn't"

🙃

[strobogo]

I don't know what the set up to a Taker/Trick confrontation was, but boy it made TNA, NXT, and Trick look like clowns. From a sly dig on difference from TNA and NXT champ to repeatedly sonning Trick on the mic to then physically putting him down with zero chance of any kind of physical confrontation otherwise to get any heat back. What a weird choice.