Guest KÄSE Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I find the idea (granted it comes off as exaggeration to make a point) of putting roid users in jail interesting but before we'd do that that means we'd have to put all wine/beer drinkers and smokers/other drug users to jail too since those drugs are a much worse problem to society.Yeah, that's what's offensive about this interview - that Cena is A PATSY IN REAGAN'S WAR ON DRUGS. Also, anemia"I don't think that word means what you think it means." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I find the idea (granted it comes off as exaggeration to make a point) of putting roid users in jail interesting but before we'd do that that means we'd have to put all wine/beer drinkers and smokers/other drug users to jail too since those drugs are a much worse problem to society. Tha I think the crux of the problem here isn't that Cena thinks steroid abusers should go to jail. It's that Cena IS a steroid abuser, and thus this line is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 The other may have been more HHH influence, but the use of the word "authorities" suggests Vince is talking through Cena on this point. It's just missing the phrases "In any event" and "Notwithstanding" ... Yeah, it has been a WWE talking point ever since the Benoit murders were blamed on roid rage. "WWE believes its ongoing efforts in the battle against performance enhancing drugs and other drugs of abuse have resulted in a comprehensive, effective and humane policy . We hope to share with you the insights we have gained, and our sense of what needs to be done on a national level to counter the spread of these drugs, including what we perceive to be longstanding regulatory and enforcement issues which must be modified and re-examined if meaningful improvement is to be made." - Jerry McDevitt in his first letter to Congress on 08/15/2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Cena doesn't give the impression of being a dumb guy, yet somehow despite him holding a degree and having an obvious history with physique enhancing chemicals we're supposed to believe he's both ignorant of the effects and/or more Straight Edge than CM Punk on the subject. That's what alarms me the most about this, how shockingly out of character this whole rant seems to be. Did he not think the UK had internet access and what he said would never leak across the ocean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 It amazes me how many athletes try that brave denial nonsense. Kennedy fell into it. Roger Clemens digs himself deeper in a hole by the week. It only leads to an ironic downfall in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Cena's specifically an exercise physiologist, which in addition to being around bodybuilding and pro wrestling for years makes his uninformed outsider who knows nothing about steroids persona even more hilarious, because even if he's not using, he'd know a lot. Also, the internalizing of WWE/Vince talking points and buzzwords to this degree, using them in public with the media and such, is intensely creepy. Coming soon to a Cena interview near you: "During an episode of Raw, the flagship program in sports entertainment, I tore my right pectoral muscle during a very physically intense match. People still don't realize that Superstars get hurt during matches, y'know. So the producers tended to me and then I was taken to a medical facility with an escort by the authorities to keep traffic flowing. I had to take time off and thus was stripped of my prized spinner championship. The young fans love those toy spinner championships. All of the Divas were very sad that I wouldn't be around for awhile. It was heartbreaking that I wasn't able to put smiles on people's faces for 3 months." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I find the idea (granted it comes off as exaggeration to make a point) of putting roid users in jail interesting but before we'd do that that means we'd have to put all wine/beer drinkers and smokers/other drug users to jail too since those drugs are a much worse problem to society. Tha I think the crux of the problem here isn't that Cena thinks steroid abusers should go to jail. It's that Cena IS a steroid abuser, and thus this line is bullshit. Man, I can just see Bix drooling at the mouth in anticipation of Cena possibly getting caught some day. Probably already drowning by now. Well, maybe he thinks he should go to jail too? If he thinks so, than the line isn't BS . I will personally say no comment on wether he's on or not. Btw, I very much doubt Cena thinks steroid users should go to jail though it's certainly possible he can think that. He was just using exaggeration to try to make a couple of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I find the idea (granted it comes off as exaggeration to make a point) of putting roid users in jail interesting but before we'd do that that means we'd have to put all wine/beer drinkers and smokers/other drug users to jail too since those drugs are a much worse problem to society. Tha I think the crux of the problem here isn't that Cena thinks steroid abusers should go to jail. It's that Cena IS a steroid abuser, and thus this line is bullshit. Man, I can just see Bix drooling at the mouth in anticipation of Cena possibly getting caught some day. Probably already drowning by now. O...kay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I can't WAIT to hear Cena's next interview, where he blasts Bret Hart for not wanting to do the honours in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Found this at deathvalley. An article from the Baltimore Sun http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/wre...text_again.html Was Cena taken out of context again? Some readers who have listened to the audio of John Cena’s interview with The Sun (U.K.) have commented to me that Cena’s statements about The Rock were not nearly as harsh as they seemed in print. One reader also expressed disappointment in me for not listening to the interview before I reacted to the story. I just finished listening to the interview, and I do agree that Cena’s comments were not nearly as vitriolic as they appeared. In hindsight, I wish I would have listened to the interview instead of just relying on the printed story. Considering the British tabloid’s reputation for sensationalism, I should have known better. I also should have learned from the incident that occurred last November, when CNN took Cena’s quotes about steroid use out of context. There are similarities in how The Sun (U.K.) and CNN presented Cena’s quotes, although I think CNN’s actions were more egregious. When CNN asked Cena if he had ever used steroids, the network aired an ambiguous sound bite from Cena that came across like a veiled admission. What CNN failed to do was air Cena’s initial response to the question, which was, “Absolutely not.” CNN completely misrepresented his answer. The Sun (U.K.) also left out some key elements of Cena’s quotes about The Rock disassociating himself from wrestling. Not only that, but the paper published a story based on one small portion of a 30-minute interview and slapped a sensationalistic headline on it. The headline was “Cena: The Rock p***es me off.” The intro under the headline said: “WWE superstar John Cena has blasted ex-WWE champion The Rock for turning his back on the business.” Cena’s quotes in the article, which I published yesterday, were mostly accurate, and he did indeed criticize The Rock. But, once again, segments of his statements were left out – segments that would have softened his comments. Here are some of Cena’s thoughts on The Rock that were on the audio interview, but were conveniently left out of the story: “He’s genuinely a nice guy. I’ve met him. And a fantastic human being. “Like I said, he is a great guy. But I think we all know now that he wants to be an actor. And there’s nothing wrong with that, because he’s truly found another passion. He’s good at acting. His films make money.” Cena also was quoted in the story as saying, “At one point Rock loved wrestling and wanted to do this all his life. So explain to me why he can’t come back.” The Sun (U.K.) ended the quote there, but what Cena actually said was: “So explain to me why he can’t come back for our 15th anniversary show or why he can’t make an appearance at WrestleMania. I wish he’d just show up, say hi and leave. Do the eyebrow once and get out of town.” The harshest thing Cena said was: “Just don't [expletive] me around and tell me that you love this. That's the only thing that gets me really [ticked] off. Our fan base have so much admiration for him, he's got to respect that. He doesn't give anything back.” It should be noted, however, that Cena said this in a calm, matter-of-fact tone, so categorizing what he said as “blasting” The Rock was quite a stretch. I still think Cena’s criticism of The Rock is off base, but he certainly is entitled to his opinion. After being taken out of context for the second time in three months, however, I wouldn’t blame Cena if he decided to start keeping his opinions to himself from now on. As far as this incident is concerned, I regret if I exacerbated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would think anything even slightly harsh would and should be considered "blasting", especially when you take into account how much money the Rock made the company. Seriously, what is this mindset in wrestling that people who leave the business are ingrates who somehow owe something to the profession? Rock has every right to tell the WWE and anyone in it to go fuck themselves with a rusty spike, and the fact that he takes the time to make appearances once in a while shows that he still "gives back" to the business. If anything, this whole affair illustrates how many people in wrestling are just huge jealousy filled crybabies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would think anything even slightly harsh would and should be considered "blasting", especially when you take into account how much money the Rock made the company. Seriously, what is this mindset in wrestling that people who leave the business are ingrates who somehow owe something to the profession? Rock has every right to tell the WWE and anyone in it to go fuck themselves with a rusty spike, and the fact that he takes the time to make appearances once in a while shows that he still "gives back" to the business. If anything, this whole affair illustrates how many people in wrestling are just huge jealousy filled crybabies. It took you this long to figure that out? But they always come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would think anything even slightly harsh would and should be considered "blasting", especially when you take into account how much money the Rock made the company. Seriously, what is this mindset in wrestling that people who leave the business are ingrates who somehow owe something to the profession? Rock has every right to tell the WWE and anyone in it to go fuck themselves with a rusty spike, and the fact that he takes the time to make appearances once in a while shows that he still "gives back" to the business. If anything, this whole affair illustrates how many people in wrestling are just huge jealousy filled crybabies. It took you this long to figure that out? But they always come back. Well I didn't just figure it out, I was just making the point. The Rock is probably going to be the one guy who never comes back to wrestling in an in-ring sense after a retirement. He may show up for a promo every so often, but unless he has some sort of financial disaster I don't see him ever wrestling again. That of course only makes the people in the biz hate him even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I suspect Vince is genuinely disconcerted by an ex-wrestler who doesn't need the business. He's just so used to being on the power end of his relationships, even with Hogan, who was a bigger star in a wrestling context than the Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 "I think it's something that needs to be done. I don't think baseball has taken the right approach, just like I don't think the media has taken the right approach as far as scrutinizing professional wrestling. The absolute correct approach would be the same as the war on drugs. These drugs are illegal, they're not for any prescription, they're not for any athlete. So make the penalty if you get caught using an illegal substance arrest and jail time. The government is allowing each sanctioning body, whether it's sports entertainment, the NFL, the NBA to police its own. If an athlete fails a drug test, they get a 30-day suspension, where if I'm John Q. Public, walking around the street with a bunch of anabolic steroids, I'm going to jail. There is a severe double standard. If the government and Congress want to step in, they have to start at the source and make sure the athletes know these drugs are illegal. I think if the penalty is severe enough, the amount of offenders will go way down. In baseball, if it's a 30-day suspension, that might be the equivalent of a 15-day suspension. For an athlete, a lot of times, that's worth the risk. There was just a sprinter who was put on four years' suspension, which basically equals two Olympic Games and the end of a sprinter's career. So, I think, the IOC, even though they're not trying these guys under governmental law, really has it down. If you do it once, your career is pretty much over. There's a big difference between sitting for 15 games, or, man, if I get caught, I have to find another job. I think that's Step One. I think the Mitchell report was a mistake only because it was based off of opinion and heresay, like in the case of Roger Clemens. There's no paperwork to support that he ever purchased performance-enhancing drugs and, most importantly, there's no failed drug test. It was basically one guy's word against another guy's word. That's a battle that could go on for the dawn of time. So if they had done more investigation into the purchasing of anabolic steroids and failing drug tests, then you'd have a little bit more to go on. I think the blame falls on the major league for not having a drug-testing program. For so long, the players' union protected the players, so they did not have any sort of drug testing program. If you're not going to be tried by your government, and you're not going to be tried by your sanctioning sports body, there's no freakin' risk. Absolutely not. Major League Baseball-I hate to say it because it is the National Pastime- Major League Baseball almost encouraged the athletes to go ahead and take part, because for so long there was no penalty. I think that was a big flaw in our entity. For so long, there was no penalty. As soon as it got to the point where it became an issue, immediately a policy was instituted that "we can't fix what happened yesterday," no one can friggin' turn back the clock, but as far as today, if you're caught, you're going to be looking for work. The best that baseball can do is pretty much what everybody else is trying to do, really tighten up that policy, because this is an issue that is going to be talked about for so much longer." - more of the same from John Cena in an interview for Men's Fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Nearly a year after the fact, Cena is still complaining about The Rock. No. I don’t want to say that you misread it; I may have been misquoted. What I actually said, and I’ll stand true to it to this day, I don’t even care, is that here’s a guy who, when he was with the WWE, pounded his chest that he really loved the WWE, and that wasn’t the truth. The truth is that Dwayne Johnson is a great actor and I think always wanted to be an actor, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s like an athlete saying, “Hey, I don’t do drugs,” and then getting busted for drugs. It’s not the truth. I mean here’s a guy who said he was WWE through and through, and then the first chance to take a road to a different career path, he took it. There’s nothing wrong with that. Dwayne’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. He’s one of the hardest workers you’ll ever meet, and he certainly is a great actor. The roadblock that I have, because I certainly am in love with this business and I don’t see myself leaving it any time, is when someone says that and then leaves, it cheapens our business. If he’s going to say that, then back your word. That’s the only beef that I have and that’s what I told the people at The U.K. Sun. It just cheapens that phrase: “Oh, I love this business.” So then next time I come up and say I love this business, well, the guy before me who said that left. That doesn’t look good for me or our business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I guess that Johnson is lying when he says he still loves his ex-wife, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 And there I was thinking a wrestler making it in Hollywood is a great advertisement for the business! Much more than the wrestlers who loved the business too much that they didn't know when it was time to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 So apparently Cena was on MTV News challenging Rock to a match at Wrestlemania 26. Which if it were to happen, means Cena complains about how Rock abanonded the WWE, while Rock lets everyone know what terrible business The Marine did and how 12 Rounds opened to $1.75 million Friday night and went from a projected $10.1 million opening weekend to $5.5 million, while Rock's latest flick has already passed $40 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I still don't get what was so creepy about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Just the deification of the wrestling business and all that. The rest isn't at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Someone really needs to tell Cena that it's getting pretty embarrassing for him to keep being Vince's sockpuppet for bashing the Rock. Although it'll make it that much more hilarious when he has his eventual falling out that all WWE headliners have at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 As I recall it, the Rock got into wrestling because he couldn't play pro football, not because he was really into it. From everything I've ever heard about him he did his thing and took off, didn't stick around and pay much attention to others' matches nor the competition. Didn't Mick Foley say he just ignored him after bashing his head in at the 1999 Royal Rumble? Of course this is just Vince McMahon's bitterness at not being able to put the bullet in Rock/book him to join the "Kiss My Ass" club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hasn't Meltzer talked about Rock, well after his wrestling career was over, watching tapes of, like, Austin Idol in Memphis or whatever? I mean, a guy who doesn't like wrestling isn't going to seek out stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Yeah, Rock spends a lot of his free time in between shooting movie scenes watching Portland and Memphis tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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