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  1. There is already a thread for this podcast, but I don't blame you for missing it. I was the only person who replied and it hasn't been bumped in ages. The Pod of Awesomeness has now worked it's way onto my "must listen" list along with Killing the Town and Jim Cornette's Late Night Drive-Thru. (Not to be confused with The Jim Cornette Experience, which I can't stand.) The question of whether or not you will like the Pod of Awesomeness depends on a couple of different factors. You don't have to be a huge fan of Edge and Christian to enjoy the show. To be honest, I never really cared for Edge as a performer all that much. But there are some things going for this show, for sure. 1 ) It is refreshingly candid. Neither host seem to care if they ruffle feathers or offend the WWE. It is obvious that they both still follow the product and are quick to praise what they like, but they are also more than happy to slag what they do not like. One of the things I am starting to really dislike about Killing the Town is the fact that because Don Callis works for New Japan World, he spends an exorbitant amount of time pimping New Japan and will absolutely not say anything even remotely critical about them. He is also personal friends with Kenny Omega, and his constant praising of Omega as the greatest wrestler in the world is getting nauseating. You don't get that with E & C. They are surprisingly objective and call it as they see it. I don't always agree with them, but I never get the feeling that they are holding back or being political or diplomatic in their choice of topics or criticisms. 2 ) High quality guests. It is an running joke between the two hosts regarding who they can land as guests. So far they've had a who's who. Goldberg, Shane McMahon, AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, Drew McIntyre...these guys are definitely able to get interviews with the kind of guests other podcasts could only dream of. If you look at who they've had on the show in their brief existence, it's quite remarkable really. 3 ) Good interviews. It's one thing to land a good guest, it's another to actually have a productive conversation with them which is worth listening to or that is interesting, compelling and informative. (Ask anybody who has ever watched an RF Video Shoot Interview. Just getting the interview is only half of the process. You actually have to ask smart questions, follow up, put the subject at ease and draw them out.) The advantage Edge and Christian have is that they have mostly landed interviews with guys that they already have a relationship with, so there is never any real awkwardness or formality to the interviews. I would especially point to the Samoa Joe, Daniel Bryan and Drew McIntyre interviews as being segments where it came across as just friends having a conversation, but in all three interviews the subjects were refreshingly candid and discussed things that you can tell they probably wouldn't have discussed elsewhere. Another huge highlight was when they managed to get Shawn Michaels and Mick Foley on together, to discuss their classic Mind Games match in detail. This was an amazing segment they call "Anatomy of a Match" and they plan to do this with other wrestlers in the future. They have the connections to pull this off, and it's really awesome. (Pardon the pun.) 4 ) Knowledgeable and Experienced hosts. They're not experienced as hosts, but they have a ton of experience in Pro Wrestling, and that helps this show a lot. Like I said, I was never a huge Edge and Christian fan, but you can't deny that they were both very successful during their careers. They are both happy to talk about experiences they had before, during and even after their careers. They weave this into their interviews and it gives an insight that other interviewers might not have. They also have a deep reservoir of backstage and road stories that they are always happy to share, which you can only get from a host who has experience in the Pro Wrestling industry. One thing that has really impressed me about this show is that it is obvious that (despite how incredibly goofy they both act) both these guys are actually quite intelligent. 5 ) It's Fun. Now, here is where Your Mileage May Vary. These guys have been good friends since they were kids. They talk quite a lot about their teenage years, growing up as fans, and their formative years in the industry. Like many friends who have known each other for years, they are extremely comfortable with each other. This means that they have pet nicknames for each other (Edge calls Christian "Birdman" or "Bird" for example) but they also have a ton of other running jokes with each other. One thing they love to do is threaten each other with physical violence, where they go into ludicrous over the top and extremely detailed threats of what they plan to do to each other. They also have a running gag with Tommy Dreamer, where just for the sake of irritating him, they repeat his name over and over (TommyTommyTommy) to drive him nuts. They have a Stone Cold impersonator who comes on to sing the theme song of their guests, prior to interviews. Their interview with Pete Gas of the Mean Street Posse is an example of them basically doing nothing but joking around and riffing on the poor guy. Another fun ongoing joke is their use of backstage wrestler banter "Brother brother" or the ongoing saga of Edge's inability to change the battery in his smoke detector. I happen to find this stuff hilarious and it is one of the things about the show I enjoy the most. It is not formal or overproduced. However, it can be quite juvenile and if this type of humor is not for you, or if that kind of stuff annoys you, then I can see where you would not like this show at all. I was once listening to the show when my roommate was in the room, and she finally asked me who these guys were, why they kept insulting each other and why they were threatening to mutilate each other. Like I said, it's most definitely a YMMV situation. If you do not like goofy humor, this is not the show for you. But I feel that they are having fun doing the show, they don't take it too seriously, and it comes across as fun for them and the listener. One thing about this show is that it has only been around for 5 months. It's actually pretty impressive the quality of guests and the good shows they have had over the past 5 months, and they are really getting hitting their stride now. I think it is probably only going to get better.
  2. So Drew McIntyre was a guest on the E&C Pod of Awesomeness a couple of weeks ago, and he and Edge & Christian had a great conversation about his career. The good thing is that the three guys are friends, so it doesn't feel like a formal interview. Drew is very candid about his problems during his first run, and how he has changed. This is really worth checking out and provides some great insight into Drew McIntyre, his career and subsequent comeback. WARNING: If you do listen to this, you will notice a faint but annoying intermittent beeping in the background. That would be Edge's smoke detector. The battery is dying, and he couldn't figure out how to change it for a few weeks. It got so annoying people were busting his chops about it on Twitter. He has since fixed it. The interview starts at 23:46.
  3. Yeah, the whole "Jim Cornette is desperately trying to stay relevant" talking point is really off base and not particularly well thought out. The last thing he wants to do is be relevant to Pro Wrestling in 2017. That's kind of his whole point when he goes off on the modern product. Cornette has a very loyal and well established fan base that he appeals to. I don't think he cusses out Kenny Omega, Joey Ryan or The Young Bucks because he wants attention from younger fans of the modern product. I think he does it because he hates Kenny Omega, Joey Ryan and The Young Bucks, and he knows there are lots of other people who feel the same way.
  4. Um...what? I don't think anybody is as maligned in the wrestling industry as Russo at this point. I'm not saying having Cornette on the air (or even working backstage) in 2017 is a good idea. I don't think it is, not one little bit. If I was trying to book a product that is looked upon as current, and if I was trying to to bring in younger viewers, the last person I would put on the air is Jim Cornette. His whole on air persona screams old school...which is what he is. I assume they brought him in because Jim Cornette could cut a better promo in his sleep than most of the guys in today's Pro Wrestling could cut on their best day. But that is more of a sad indictment of the fact that the current generation thinks it's more important to kick out of 100 finishers or to do a bunch of high spots than it is to actually know how to talk. There should be lots of guys around who could fill that role, but there isn't. The other problem is, Global Force is being run by Jeff Jarrett, Dutch Mantell, Scott D'Amore, etc. These are not exactly guys who have their finger on the pulse of what is hot and trending right now. I'm not convinced these guys still don't think that the key to success is presenting WWE lite. Cornette hates Kenny Omega, and The Young Bucks, and Kenny King and Joey Ryan, absolutely. He has a lot of detractors. But within Pro Wrestling as an industry, I'd say Cornette has a ton more respect than Russo ever will. Even the guys who think he is wrong about Omega and The Young Bucks (like Meltzer, or Storm & Cyrus, or Austin, or Jim Ross) will give Cornette his due for his knowledge of Pro Wrestling History, his past contributions, and his love of the sport. At this point, Russo's biggest defender might be The Disco Inferno. I rest my case.
  5. The Thread Killer

    NXT talk

    Now let us begin the countdown to when Asuka gets beaten by Nia Jax on Raw in a match with no buildup and no ramifications.
  6. Yeah, I know what I say or think doesn't matter and it's not going to change...but for what it's worth I've never liked this thread title either. There is no doubt that Jim Ross is a grouch on his best days, but to call him a vile human being always seemed like a serious case of overkill to me. I wouldn't even call Russo a vile human being, and he's probably the person in Pro Wrestling I despise the most.
  7. Please clarify that statement. Because it sounds like you're trying to imply there is a set amount of time that the guy should be depressed over the death of his wife. And even you can't be that big of a douchebag...despite all evidence to the contrary.
  8. Back at the end of July, we had this conversation in the WWE TV thread... This needs to happen, ASAP. Tonight Enzo showed up during the closing segment of 205 Live, (to a substantial reaction from the crowd, which is a rarity on 205 Live) and essentially began an angle with Neville. I know, I know...Enzo sucks and he has heat backstage and everybody hates him and this is probably a punishment... But I liked it, dammit. I am actually looking forward to this angle. I know with Gable now teaming with Shelton Benjamin we won't get the second part of Johnny Sorrow's prophecy, but with a couple of other NXT call-ups (Gargano, Lorcan, Burch) this division and show could be saved. That's a lot of weight to put on the shoulders of Enzo A'more, but who knows...it could happen. I know it won't happen.
  9. I don't know if you're a Corbin guy so I legitimately can't tell if this is sarcasm. There is such a thing as a "Corbin guy"?
  10. Actually, I just read that the penalty for this would be a four year suspension, which would effectively be the end of his career for all intents and purposes. I mean, he'd only be 34 by the time the suspension was up, but I can't imagine anybody sitting out for a whole four years and then coming back to be a success.
  11. We were just talking about this in the WWE TV thread, and I will cross-post here what I said there... Just for fun, let's review the Jon Jones file: He's undefeated, the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, and on his way to establishing a legacy. And then... - He totals his car and is charged with Driving Under The Influence. - He refuses to accept a fight against Chael Sonnen, who was stepping in at the last minute to fight after Dan Henderson got injured. Because he refuses to fight, an entire UFC show is cancelled for the first time ever and UFC 151 never happens. Not only does his refusal to fight cause an entire PPV to be cancelled, in the aftermath Jones basically comes across in the media as the ultimate spoiled athlete, entitled and self absorbed. - Jones then spends the next couple of years adding to his spoiled and entitled reputation, as he is accused of ducking fights with both Glover Teixiera and Alex Gustafsson. Jones appears to be especially reluctant to face Gustafsson, who many people thought actually beat him the first time they fought. He also adds to his reputation as a dirty fighter for using illegal elbow strikes against Matt Hamill, and also is constantly getting warnings for poking his opponents in the eyes. - He is accused of writing homophobic slurs on Instagram. In response, Jones claims his phone was stolen and his account was hacked - He then tests positive for cocaine, and gives an interview implying that is one of the first times he ever took cocaine. He asks for the forgiveness of his fans, but comes across as very insincere. - He then is involved in a hit and run, where he is involved in a car accident with a pregnant woman. He flees the scene, and drugs are found in his car. He is finally suspended for six months and stripped of his title. - He swears he is going to stay on the straight and narrow, and then gets arrested for drag racing. Because it's smart to drive like an idiot after you've been arrested for getting in a hit and run. - He comes back after his suspension and wins the "interim" title but then...surprise! He tests positive for steroids. He gets suspended again, this time for a year. - He finally comes back after his year long suspension, swears he's changed etc., and wins the title. Now he flunks another steroid test. This guy is a total moron. He needs to be banned from the sport for life. He probably won't be, but it really doesn't matter. He's totally sullied whatever legacy he might have had, not to mention that he's literally cost himself his prime fighting years by being suspended so often and so long, and cost himself millions of dollars from missed fights and sponsorships. They say he's looking at a minimum 2 year suspension this time, so I hope Brock didn't have his heart set on that fight.
  12. I take back everything I said about the Owens/Styles feud. Inserting Baron Corbin is just what this angle needed to keep it fresh and interesting.
  13. Are you SERIOUS?! Jon Jones may very well be the biggest moron in the history of sports. Yes.....and Yes, He probably fucked over Brock since that was his leverage to get another fat WWE deal too. Just for fun, let's review the Jon Jones file: He's undefeated, the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, and on his way to establishing a legacy. And then... - He totals his car and is charged with Driving Under The Influence. - He refuses to accept a fight against Chael Sonnen, who was stepping in at the last minute to fight after Dan Henderson got injured. Because he refuses to fight, an entire UFC show is cancelled for the first time ever and UFC 151 never happens. Not only does his refusal to fight cause an entire PPV to be cancelled, in the aftermath Jones basically comes across in the media as the ultimate spoiled athlete, entitled and self absorbed. - Jones then spends the next couple of years adding to his spoiled and entitled reputation, as he is accused of ducking fights with both Glover Teixiera and Alex Gustafsson. Jones appears to be especially reluctant to face Gustafsson, who many people thought actually beat him the first time they fought. He also adds to his reputation as a dirty fighter for using illegal elbow strikes against Matt Hamill, and also is constantly getting warnings for poking his opponents in the eyes. - He is accused of writing homophobic slurs on Instagram. In response, Jones claims his phone was stolen and his account was hacked - He then tests positive for cocaine, and gives an interview implying that is one of the first times he ever took cocaine. He asks for the forgiveness of his fans, but comes across as very insincere. - He then is involved in a hit and run, where he is involved in a car accident with a pregnant woman. He flees the scene, and drugs are found in his car. He is finally suspended for six months and stripped of his title. - He swears he is going to stay on the straight and narrow, and then gets arrested for drag racing. Because it's smart to drive like an idiot after you've been arrested for getting in a hit and run. - He comes back after his suspension and wins the "interim" title but then...surprise! He tests positive for steroids. He gets suspended again, this time for a year. - He finally comes back after his year long suspension, swears he's changed etc., and wins the title. Now he flunks another steroid test. This guy is a total moron. He needs to be banned from the sport for life. He probably won't be, but it really doesn't matter. He's totally sullied whatever legacy he might have had, not to mention that he's literally cost himself his prime fighting years by being suspended so often and so long, and cost himself millions of dollars from missed fights and sponsorships. They say he's looking at a minimum 2 years suspension this time, so I hope Brock didn't have his heart set on that fight.
  14. Are you SERIOUS?! Jon Jones may very well be the biggest moron in the history of sports.
  15. The Kevin Owens/AJ Styles feud is only rivaled by Miz/Dean Ambrose as The Feud That Wouldn't Die. I watched the opening segment, I was excited about the US Open Challenge, and then Kevin Owens came out. I almost wept. Is it just me, or was Bobby Roode's Smackdown debut a little underwhelming? So he interrupted and then beat Aiden English. Whoop-de-doo. Also, is he supposed to be a face?
  16. I wonder if Cena is holding a bit of a grudge over some of the promos Miz cut with Maryse leading up to Wrestlemania, making fun of he and Nikki. I remember reading at the time that a lot of those segments and promos weren't being tightly scripted and the gloves were off a bit. I remember a lot of people were expecting Cena to tee off on Miz, but Miz actually came out looking better. To my mind, Miz did a hell of a lot better making Cena look bad in the buildup to that match rather than the other way around. There was never really much doubt who was going to win the battle, but I always thought the Miz won the war.
  17. I work almost exclusively with recent immigrants from India, since the Pharmaceutical company I work with has a branch in Bangalore and staff are always transferring in. All those guys speak Hindi, not Punjabi. I assumed Jinder would speak that dialect. Of course, he was born in Calgary, Alberta...so I could also have been safe in assuming he'd come out on hockey skates, eating a back bacon sandwich, drinking a beer, and listening to Rush.
  18. Jinder Mahal: Settle in for the long haul and embrace the bacne!
  19. I really have mixed feelings on KENTA. If you ever get bored and are so inclined to check it out, I'd say KENTA's prime was probably between 2006-2009. He had a match in 2007 in ROH against Bryan Danielson (at Driven, I think it was) that I remembered loving at the time, but to be fair I have not seen it since and I might be remembering it as better than it was. Even as far back as his formative years, I remember in 2004, on the same NOAH show when Kobashi defended against Takayama, the co-Main Event was Misawa and Ogawa (who were the GHC Tag Team Champs) defending against KENTA and Marufuji, (who were the Jr. Tag Team Champs.) I remember that match being really good and a lot of fun too. There was a spot where KENTA imitated Kawada and repeatedly kicked Misawa in the face, the crowd went nuts and needless to say, Misawa was not impressed, and let KENTA know it. When Misawa finally came to America and wrestled in ROH, he defended the GHC title against KENTA. It's an average at best match, it was more special to see Misawa in front of an American audience that clearly worshiped him (as well they should have). But that is good indicator of what KENTA wrestled like in his prime, and ROH has it available free on YouTube. The biggest knocks against KENTA were that his selling was kind of spotty, and that he wrestled a very specific style which focused on a lot of repeated high impact moves and false finishes, not so much mat based stuff or real old school psychology. There are those who said (and I don't necessarily disagree) that KENTA had a hard time when he was pushed out of his "big match" formula. Basically, he had to wrestle other guys who wrestled the same style, otherwise he couldn't produce a good match. That's probably why he had a successful run in ROH, he sort of set the template that Davey Richards and company kind of ran into the ground later on. ROH at that time was basically an AJPW/NOAH cover band, if you ask me. And I don't mean that was always a bad thing. Anyhow, in his day KENTA was definitely a "your mileage may very" type of guy. When he showed up in NXT I was really surprised. I know he's only 36, but he wrestled in AJPW and NOAH for almost 15 years. I am guessing his body took about 30 years worth of punishment in that time (if not more) from that fabled "King's Road" style. Bottom line is, by 2014 I hate to say it, but he seemed way past his "best before" date. I think that might be why he has had so many injuries as well. I can't imagine you can subject your body to the type of punishment he put his through for so long without ending up a shell of yourself and injury prone. I really don't want to sound like I am advocating steroid usage, because I'm not. But to me, as Hideo Itami he has seemed smaller, slower, beat up,less fiery and not the same guy he once was. This Takeover show was the first time I had seen flashes of what KENTA once was. Having said that, I'm not sure I want to see him return to that form. I don't know if he could even do it, I don't think it fits in with the "WWE style" and it would probably kill him if he did it. It's sad to see Hideo Itami as kind of a shell of KENTA, but I really think that is the end result of the kind of style he wrestled for so long. I really loved that match with he and Black. But I don't think Itami is capable of repeating performances at that level, sadly.
  20. OMG Gran Metalik is on RAW and they're talking about him as a potential CW Title contender! I am way too excited about this, but I love that guy!
  21. I wondered about that. I thought maybe Nak was choking on how bad the match was, and Jinder had to give him the Heimlich Maneuver or something.
  22. I like to imagine Vince backstage having a total conniption, pulling his hair and screaming: "WHY WON'T THEY LOVE THOSE TWO LIKE I DO?"
  23. Opening segment was gold. Gold, Jerry. Gold! Why are they rushing Cena vs. Reigns? That has Wrestlemania written all over it, to me. Big fan of the "You both suck" chant, though.
  24. I feel a bit guilty, because I have derailed this thread with my (totally justified and not even one little bit overly dramatic) hatred of Mauro Ranallo. Having said that, I do not feel I have lived up to my name and killed this thread yet, but it is on life support. I do feel bad, so I am going to try and get the thread back on topic by discussing the actual show, which was outstanding and deserves attention. NXT Takeover: Brooklyn III Andrade “Cien” Almas vs. Johnny Gargano Almas has definitely floundered since his NXT debut, but I think he has really found his role as a heel and the addition of Zelina Vega as his manager has helped even more. I'm not going to lie, at first I didn't "get" the dynamic between Vega and Almas, I guess I was expecting her to be more of a traditional valet and just support Almas blindly, put him over during promos, and interfere on his behalf. The whole deal with her yelling at him and almost bossing him around a bit seemed strange to me at first, but now I really like it. I have no beef with changes to old traditional roles like that, and the bottom line is that the dynamic works. I can honestly say that I can see them on the main roster and making it to the midcard level no problem. (A hell of a lot better than Mike Bennett and Maria.) NXT and the CWC was my first exposure to Johnny Gargano. I saw a bit of him in DGUSA, but not enough to leave a lasting opinion. Now I am a huge fan. His match with Ciampa during the CWC was awesome, and I loved their team a bunch. I felt so bad that their breakup got derailed by Ciampa's injury and I was worried what would happen with Gargano while he waited for the inevitable Ciampa return and subsequent feud. Gargano looked great in this match. He is in amazing shape, and that match had pretty much everything you could ever ask for in a hot opener. (Contrast it with Cena/Corbin the next night. Ugh.) I freely admit, I thought Gargano would go over here rather easily. It didn't happen and I'm glad. Almas really showed me something, and certainly Gargano didn't lose any face to me in losing that match. Going on from here, I actually wouldn't mind seeing Gargano get called up to the Cruiserweight Division to challenge Neville. When Ciampa comes back there is no reason he can't attack Gargano on 205 Live. That division and show desperately need some fresh blood and exciting matches. Anyhow, fact is that both guys really showed me something here, I have nothing bad to say about this match. Tag Team Championship Match: Sanity vs. The Authors of Pain A lot of people online have been down on Sanity. I never got that. Firstly, not every stable or talent is going to be a Main Event level act. There has to be some guys who fill important roles on the midcard, and that was always how I saw Wolfe, Dain (who I still wish would cover himself up a bit) and Young. I equated them to Raven's Flock and always hoped they would get called up to the main roster to act as the new Wyatt Family, a role I think they'd be great at. No, they're never going to Main Event Wrestlemania, but so what. They have a great look, they're quirky and weird and they can work okay. I don't really care for the Authors of Pain all that much. They're just okay in the ring, but I think they're still green as grass and even dangerous at times. Even worse, watching them I realized something sad about my childhood. I used to love Paul Ellering and the Road Warriors. When Ellering debuted as the manager of the AoP, I was happy to see him, but then sad to see that his promos were kind of cheesy melodramatic shouting. I really felt that Ellering had kind of slipped in his older age. Then I watched some old LOD stuff on the Network, and discovered to my sadness that I was looking back at Ellering with rose-colored glasses. What passed as a great promo back then for a manager doesn't really work in 2017. Ellering was always really goofy and shouty. But AoP need a mouthpiece since they don't speak English - so why not the guy who managed one of the most badass teams in history, I guess? I do think AoP have improved by leaps and bounds since their debut. I am guessing that since the Revival are down with injury again, and the AoP dropped the titles here, that they might be main roster bound, probably to work with the Hardys. If so, that could be good, but it could also suck. I don't think AoP will look as big and bad on the main roster as they did in NXT. I think they will continue to improve and will turn out to be carryable, given time, patience and good quality of opponents. Having said all that, I really, really enjoyed this match. I think this was way better than it had any right to be. I think whoever put this match together deserves a ton of credit for recognizing the limitations of the participants, knowing their strengths and weaknesses, and structuring a really fun match around that. I was not all that disappointed to see Eric Young in this match, with Sanity winning the titles I assume the fabled Freebird Rule is going to be in effect. Or maybe Dain is getting called up as rumored, and maybe Sawyer Fulton will be back now that he is over his injury. Either way, what a fun ECW lite style match. I was really happy to see Bobby Fish and Kyle O`Reilly show up after the match. (Looks like they might be getting a new team name, since the announcers seemed to go out of their way NOT to call them ReDragon.) I always liked those guys in ROH and NJPW, and I can't wait to see them work WWE style Tag Team matches, which I enjoy so much more than the ROH/NJPW style of Tag Match. It was also great to hear Corey Graves, too. He is so damn good. Aleister Black vs. Hideo Itami I think it is pretty much universally felt that Itami has been a disappointment since his arrival in NXT. He has been injured a bunch of times, and there is something else. Please don't judge me for saying this, as I am not condoning the usage of performance enhancing drugs, BUT...Itami really doesn't look as good when he is not taking steroids. If you go back and watch KENTA in his prime in NOAH, it's pretty damn clear that he's a hell of a lot bigger. I think it is better for Itami's health and general wellbeing that he is NOT juicing now, but he is one of the more dramatic examples I can think of where a guy pretty clearly has gone off the gas and it becomes very noticeable. Aside from his NXT Title Match with Roode a couple of months ago, I am hard pressed to remember a good Itami match in NXT. Maybe the mini-angle he worked with Chris Hero. I freaking love Aleister Black. He is one of my favorite things about Pro Wrestling right now. He has such a unique and eye-catching look, and his wrestling style is not just the bland style that some WWE wrestlers can be accused of working. I am nervous about his promos, and I fear that the creative team on the main roster won't get him or know how to use him...I worry he'll end up being Bray Wyatt 2.0. But for now, I am really enjoying his rise. For the third time in a row, this match really exceeded my expectations. I was hoping Black would bring his "A" game, and he did. But Itami really showed me something and rose to the challenge. This match was everything I was hoping that it could be. I hope both guys can build off this and continue to impress. And I didn't mind JR as the guest commentator one little bit. Women's Championship Match: Asuka vs. Ember Moon To be honest, I am not as enamored with the NXT Women's Division or with Women's Wrestling in general as most people here at PWO. I don't hate it, but I have a really hard time getting emotionally invested in it, as well. But...you'd have to be blind not to see that Asuka is head and shoulders above the entire NXT Women's division, and probably 99% of the main roster too, while we're at it. I don't mind Ember Moon. She has a fantastic look, but I find her promos kind of weak. On one hand, eventually they're going to have to take the title off Asuka at some point. On the other hand, I don't think Ember Moon is believable enough to do it. On the other hand (I'm using three hands for this argument) who really is good enough to beat Asuka? It's going to have to be some sort of screwjob or something, with outside interference in order to be believable. NXT Championship Match: Drew McIntyre vs. Bobby Roode I am going to leave myself open to criticism here, but I don't get the Bobby Roode hate. I don't think he'll ever be World Champion on the main roster, but I think he's definitely capable of being an "upper midcarder." To me, I can see him on the same level as The Miz, for example. I think that's an obtainable goal for him. His ring work is solid if not flashy, his promos are good if not great, and he has a good look. And yes...that entrance and vainglorious attitude really cracks me up and makes him a throwback to the cocky heels I loved growing up. Damn, is Drew McIntyre good. This guy literally has it all. He's big, he can wrestle, he can move, he has a great look, good promos...I look forward to his reign in NXT and seeing what kind of challengers they have lined up for him. As far as this match I think McIntyre is exactly the kind of guy Roode needs to be in there with, somebody who can work as well or better than he. I wouldn't say this match was great or excellent, but it was just solid back and forth action. It was engaging and kept my interest. There was nothing during this match that made me think either of these guys didn't deserve to be in this Main Event. Was it a MOTYC? Nope, but it was better than about 95% of the crap that was to follow the next night at Summerslam. Final Thoughts Poor Percy Watson. I don't hate the guy, but he really seems to be in over his head. I keep forgetting he is there until Ranallo or Nigel throw to him to get his response, to which he comes back with a bland or obvious observation - or he gets the wrestler's name or move wrong. Speaking of which, I am happy to eat a big plate of crow about Nigel McGuinness. I didn't like him at all in ROH. I found him to be nasal sounding, whiny and uninteresting. Not only is he really damn good as a color guy in NXT (and on the UK shows) but he is getting better all the time, and his personality is starting to come out. I am obviously in the minority here, but I didn't like that band. I never like live bands at wrestling shows, except for Motorhead at Wrestlemania, because Lemmy rules all your faces and Motorhead kicks all the ass in the history of history. But I didn't really like Code Orange or whatever they were called. I didn't much see the point of them being there, but it was a small thing and not worth quibbling about. And obviously some of you enjoyed it, so there is clearly some merit there. Just not my particular preference. I never really liked Adam Cole in ROH. I didn't get him, much as I suspect some of you don't get the appeal of Bobby Roode. He's just okay, but I didn't see him as the franchise or anything. But I am not upset he is in NXT, I really want to see what they can do with him and what he can do for them. I am prepared to be open minded about this and see how he does. Maybe he just needs to be tweaked a bit. (I don't mean he needs to take crystal meth, either. Although that would make for an interesting character.) And I DO love stables, so Cole, Fish and O'Reilly as a unit are exciting to me. I wish there were more factions and stables on the main roster, so I'll enjoy them where I can get them. The crowd was awesome. I love the atmosphere at NXT shows. The theme to this show for me was "exceeded expectations." Almas was way better in the opener than I thought he would be, and the match rocked as a result. The Tag Title match seriously surprised me with how fun it was. Itami really rose to the challenge as well, and made his match better than I thought it would be. All these guys working so hard combined to make this show so much better than I thought it would be...and I thought it would be good to very good. Instead we got an excellent show, with no bad matches and a real fun atmosphere. To me, this show was the absolute antithesis of the show the next night. Great matches, good booking and a damn good time. Thank God for NXT.
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