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I haven't really seen enough of either in their prime to judge, but I definitely believe that Ron was better with his money than Robert was. Ron even managed to get out of losing operations like Continental & USA Championship with plenty of money in his pocket and was retired from wrestling for good by the end of 1989, outside of a few shows he promoted in the late 90s. Robert wrestled pretty much everywhere after Continental died off, working Memphis, Dallas, the George Scott NAWA/SAWA thing, SMW, probably more I'm forgetting before landing in WCW as Colonel Parker.
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Dundee didn't really change his tune after Savage died either based off the podcast with Terry Simms (Garvin)
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Wrestling's Best, Worst and Wackiest Music Videos
goc replied to BruiserBrody's topic in Pro Wrestling
I always dug the "Famous Final Scene" video for Austin Idol vs. Jerry Lawler. https://youtu.be/QtXbcdPT5ps -
I can't think of a match that I LOVED on first watch that ever matched the initial viewing on a rewatch. You can't recapture the emotion of the first time you saw a match and that's what good matches are all about, making you feel something.
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People always cite Studd at the Rumble in 1989 (and Hogan the next 2 years) but the Rumble didn't mean anything until they 1993 when they started the "win and you get the WM main event" stipulation. Studd was as good a choice as any since they were planning on a big push for him. They just didn't know yet that he was physically done.
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I'm pretty sure that their times in Memphis were also when Jerry Jarrett was doing the booking and they weren't in on any of Lawler's stints. I am glad they ended up going back though because the thing with Robert Fuller interviewing Nick Gulas about how Jerry Jarrett stole the promotion from him is one of my favorite Memphis things ever.
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The more I think about it, the more I think they have decided to settle Bryan into Rey Misterio's spot. His current "guy who gets time to have a long match every week on SD" deal really put it into perspective for me. He's a guy who they can use to sell some merchandise, always stay over, headline some house shows on his own but never really run with him and always keep him in a botom of the top/top of the bottom role.
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Never would have watched this match if I hadn't been reading threads here. I LOVE this match: Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshinari Ogawa 11.1.03 https://youtu.be/Ssra6Svglp0
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I remember in 2002 when WWE was in a down period and the internet was all abuzz about RoH so I bought Unscripted and some other event I don't remember and being pretty underwhelmed but ESPECIALLY by Christopher Daniels. "This dude is supposed to be the best wrestler in the world!?"
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They might have even had a hot main event between Orton/Rollins if they hadn't killed that issue so thoroughly by botching Orton's return. It flew under everyone's outrage meter because it's Orton but the booking they gave him on his return was atrocious.
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I hate that Bobby Fulton kept calling himself and Jackie "The Fantastics" after Tommy Rogers went off to do his own thing. There is nothing fantastic about Jackie Fulton.
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There is the same story EVERY YEAR about how the show went too long and they are going to make it shorter next time.
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Is discussing/analysing wrestling more enjoyable to you than watching?
goc replied to BigBadMick's topic in Pro Wrestling
Yea it's backed up now. -
Some more info on Paragon Pro & their TV deal:
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The thing about Vince is that if Mr. McMahon humiliated someone or got one over on them, he almost ALWAYS got his in the end. I mean the only time I can think of him fucking with someone and not getting a comeuppance was when he shaved Eugene's head. Is there anyone else that didn't end up getting him back in the end? I mean Austin always got the best of him and that WrestleMania X-7 match against Shane was just one long string of everyone getting their revenge on him. No one ever gets to Stephanie now.
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I don't know why it's sad though. His band IS successful. They aren't setting any sales records but they are touring internationally and touring with much larger acts. As far as he is concerned I would imagine they ARE equal since they were both long term dreams and he managed to make both of them a reality. Fozzy isn't going to be one of the best bands ever, but Chris Jericho ain't getting anywhere close to the top of my list of greatest wrestlers ever either.
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Does anyone know what Flair's last "traveling champion" match was? I know by 85-86 he was pretty much working exclusively for Crockett which is why I was so surprised when he popped up on Continental TV in September of 1986 defending against Wendell Cooley.
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I chanced upon a disc of Florida Arena Footage from the late 70s and was absolutely BLOWN AWAY by Ron Fuller's work as a babyface. Most of what I've seen from Ron has been kind of past his prime when he's wearing the Tennessee Stud mask but in the Florida footage he's a 6'9 fired up babyface throwing some big time dropkicks and looking way more quick and agile than I'd ever seen him. I wouldn't try to argue him for the list but having seen that, I would really love to see more footage of Ron Fuller from that time period. It's not every day you see a 6'9 guy moving around that way. By the 80s it seemed like he was having a lot of trouble with his knees, which isn't rare for a guy that height, especially when he played basketball through high school and college at the University of Miami.
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I don't think the goal of Fozzy is to be a "great band." It's just a way for Chris Jericho to live out his other dream of being a rock star after already achieving his pro wrestling dream. The fact that he's built it up to the point where he can just do Fozzy gigs full time is actually pretty impressive.
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I regret that there wasn't more than 1 season of Ring Ka King.
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No you're not missing anything. It was a unique and interesting concept but after the first 2-3 Cash Ins it's been really played out. It got really bad there for a while when there was a MITB match for each brand.
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http://411mania.com/wrestling/ar-fox-comments-on-issues-with-evolve-wrestling/ So apparently AR Fox is done with EVOLVE.
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Is discussing/analysing wrestling more enjoyable to you than watching?
goc replied to BigBadMick's topic in Pro Wrestling
I just looked into it, I haven't really been into MMA since 2010 so I don't think that's for me. I won't even update to the new version of TEW because I wouldn't be able to keep my game. -
Is discussing/analysing wrestling more enjoyable to you than watching?
goc replied to BigBadMick's topic in Pro Wrestling
I don't know if it's that I ENJOY discussing wrestling more than I like watching it, but I definitely spend more time talking/thinking about wrestling than watching it. It's just hard for me to sit down and passively watch ANYTHING and wrestling is even harder because it requires pretty much your full attention whereas I can have a comedy show on in the background and go about my ADD life. I think that I probably DO enjoy playing TEW more than actually watching wrestling though. I have about 5 years real time and 13 years in-game on my current TEW game and when I was having computer problems and thought I might have to wipe my hard drive I was physically ill at the thought of losing the game. I didn't really care about losing anything else on my hard drive EXCEPT my TEW game. -
My bad.