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It's cool to see John Tolos interacting with Blassie but with Tolos, Swede Hanson & The Destroyer all around I'm fighting the urge to make jokes about Florida being the place old wrestlers go to retire Happy to see Rip Rogers finally get his first big win. Definitely need to call that team with Siki "The Natural Blondes" It's weird for me to see Ron Bass as a babyface because all the footage I've seen of him has been as a heel. I know he had some babyface runs somewhere though, I'm fairly certain he worked as a face some during his Portland run as Sam oliver Bass. Love the Lord Alfred stuff, I'm glad he ended up in Florida because you're using him perfectly. Looking forward to the Street Fight with The Briscoes and the Long Riders next week.

I don't know how well circulated this match is, it's never really talked about when people are talking about the Sheik/Slaughter series. It very well could just be essentially the same match as the 5/21 MSG match that they have only 2 days after this one and I guess I'll find out soon as I plan to watch that next. But this is a pretty good match, not as good as the first MSG match and not nearly as hot of a crowd although they're definitely into the match. Slaughter starts the match and just kicks Sheik's ass for the first few minutes. Slaughter throws him over the top rope and then hits him twice with a chair both looking like fairly safe working chair shots (I mention that now for a reason) and tries to bring it back in the ring with him but the referee gets it away from him. Slaughter keeps on beating on him and even pulls Sheik up from a pin attempt but Sheik reverses an irish whip into the corner and Slaughter takes his patented bump over the top rope to the outside. Sheik goes out after him and slams his head off the monitor which causes it to stop working. That amuses me as you see the tech guy sitting next to Gorilla Monsoon trying to get it to come back on but it won't. Then Sheik grabs a chair and nails Slaughter in the back of the head and neck with probably the most dangerous, reckless looking chairshot I have ever seen. I mean Slaughter is really lucky he didn't get injured on that one, I have no idea what Sheik was thinking and why it aimed so high instead of just hitting him across the back. Slaughter just barely beats the count back in and is now bleeding from his shoulder. Not sure if he actually got cut on that chairshot or if Slaughter bladed his shoulder. Sheik works him over for a bit making sure to get in a lot of kicks and stomps with his pointy boots. Sheik goes to the top rope for a splash (!?) but Slaughter rolls out of the way which gives Slaughter opening for his comeback. Slaughter hits the Cannon on Sheik but then gets caught up in trying to take off Iron Sheik's boot. The referee tries to stop him but Slaughter shoves him away then Sheik shoves the referee away and we get a double DQ. Slaughter keeps trying to take off the boot after the match and we get a bunch of scrubs out to try and stop him but Slaughter lays them all out with the Slaughter Cannon until finally there are enough of them to pull him off and then Sheik takes a cheapshot while Slaughter is being held back before taking the chance to run away. This was good stuff but I have no idea if it's a nice companion piece to the big 3 match series from MSG or if it's essentially the same/a lesser version of the match from MSG 2 days later. Even if that turns out to be the case, this is worth watching just to see that nasty chairshot.

A 1 year suspension for interference seems pretty excessive especially for a promotion that had a lot of run ins like Memphis. Pretty interesting that both the NWA World Champion and the AWA World Tag Team Champions would be in the area around the same time. Looking forward to finding out the masked guy is who attacked King Cobra. Ladd's Army joining up with House of Humperdink is like a Corporate Ministry moment.

Maybe I should concede the point and just watch more Puerto Rico or something. It's ok buddy we can be in the bad taste club together. I think Alabama rasslin is right up your alley.

Does this hurt or help his case? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VDk3CEnzUs

The non-match between Tully & Duggan was a risky move and I knew that going in which is why I really didn't focus on hyping that match very much on the TV and put it 3rd from the top so I had 2 more matches to try and get the crowd to forget about it and leave on a positive note. It DOES fit Tully's character though and he's essentially been trying to avoid the one on one Duggan match ever since he showed up.

That's a weird figure. Is it a custom? It's got his Viscera era blonde mohawk but his Big Daddy V gear. Seems like either a custom or Jakks (was it still Jakks?) got really lazy and just re-used the head off of the last Viscera figure.

Read a joke somewhere else about Robbie E getting repackaged as the "E Male" where he comes out and cuts promos on the wrong person every week. I'd watch.

Come on Bix, they're not DOLLS they're ACTION FIGURES!

Oddly enough I was going to mention in my last post that the best Hasbro figures were Perfect & Bret and for pretty much those exact reasons. Guys who had hats that couldn't get taken off definitely suffered as it kept them out of the main event. Well, except for Taker who essentially was unbeatable without overbooking the shit out of his match. It's probably for the best his hat couldn't come off or he probably would have never lost.

Southwest Championship Wrestling @ San Antonio, TX - The HemisFair Arena 11/13/83 Yin & Yang vs. Mike Jackson & Tony Torres - Yang started this match against Mike Jackson and the two of them put on a chain wrestling clinic on the mat leading to a bit of a stalemate. They shook hands and went down to the mat again while Yin got more and more animated about wanting to be tagged in. Yang & Jackson reached another stale mate in their chain wrestling and Yin reached in and tagged Yang on the back and rushed in and blasted Mike Jackson with a big right hand. Yang spun him around and started arguing with him and then Jackson spun Yin back around and blasted him with a punch of his own and put Yin into a headlock. Jackson tagged Torres in and the two of them switched places in the headlock but Yin was able to break out of it shortly after that. Yin ran the ropes and Yang tagged him on the back as he came off of them and came back in which caused another argument between Yin & Yang. Torres rolled Yang up from behind during the argument but Yin broke up the pin with a kick to his head and then left the ring. Yang allowed Torres to get back up and recover from the kick to the head, all the while staring over at Yin in his corner. Yang and Torres started to wrestle with Yang this time able to establish a clear advantage over the rookie competitor. Yang eventually got Torres caught in a Boston Crab and Torres was slowly crawling towards the ropes, close to the corner of Yin & Yang. Yin was able to reach in and tag the back of Yang and then quickly climbed the top rope and nailed his Flying Heabutt on Tony Torres while he was still caught in the Boston Crab and then pinned him for the victory. Winners: Yin & Yang in 7:52 after a Flying Heabutt from Yin on Tony Torres Yang took exception to the way Yin tagged himself in and hit the Flying Heabutt on Torres while he was in Yang's Boston Crab. Yin just shoved him away and left the ring and walked back to the locker room on his own. Art Crews vs. Timothy Flowers w/Jim Holliday - Timothy Flowers comes out with a whole new look, with a fancy ring jacket and tons of jewelry on. And took a very long time taking off his jacket and jewelry, getting Art Crews more and more frustrated at the delay. Flowers kept using stalling tactics even after the match started and ended up outside of the ring with Art Crews chasing him only to beat Crews back in the ring and then attack him as he came in under the ropes. Flowers stayed in control for a bit until Crews made a comeback and hit Timothy Flowers with a big powerslam coming off the ropes. Jim Holliday distracted the referee from making the count by jumping up onto the apron however and when Art Crews went over to grab Holliday he got rolled up from behind by Timothy Flowers, with a hand full of tights, and pinned for the 3 count. Flowers quickly bailed out of the ring after the match was over and he and Jim Holliday taunted Art Crews from the aisle. Winner: Timothy Flowers in 8:12 with a roll up after distraction from 'Gentleman' Jim Holliday Man Mountain Link & Tiny Anderson vs. Bruiser Costa & Terry Adonis - Man Mountain Link started the match for his team and neither Bruiser Costa or Terry Adonis could go anything going against him. After a few minutes of them bumping and stooging for Link, Link tossed Adonis into the corner and hit a big avalanche splash on him and then tagged out to Tiny Anderson. Anderson tried to pin Adonis after Link's avalanche but Adonis was able to get his foot on the ropes. Tiny tried maintain control of the match but quickly found himself in Adonis & Costa's corner getting double teamed as they did every dirty trick in the book to keep him away from his corner so that the big Link couldn't get back in the ring. After working over Tiny for a while, Bruiser Costa tried to hit his big running senton and put Anderson away but Tiny was able to roll out of the way at the last second and made it to his corner for a tag! Costa and Adonis both rushed at Man Mountain Link and started pounding on him but none of their shots even seemed to register and he grabbed their heads and slammed them together! Link then scooped up Costa and nailed his big Falling Powerslam and pinned him and got the win for his team. Winners: Man Mountain Link & Tiny Anderson in 7:01 after a Falling Powerslam on Bruiser Costa from Man Mountain Link Mike Masters w/Jim Holliday vs. Steve Pardee - Mike Masters broke from his usual stalling and preening tactics and immediately jumped Steve Pardee as he entered the ring. Masters got Pardee in between the top and 2nd rope and started choking him and wen the referee got him off, Jim Holliday took a cheap shot at Steve Pardee that got the crowd calling for his head. Masters stayed on top of Steve Pardee and just pounded on him for a few minutes, never letting up on Pardee but not being able to put him away for a 3 count. Masters then went for a belly to back suplex but Pardee was able to shift his weight and turn it into a Bulldog! Pardee then made a delayed cover but Jim Holliday put Mike Masters' foot on the ropes with the referee was counting his shoulders. Pardee went to grab Holliday through the ropes but Holliday jumped backwards to avoid his grasp and started taunting Pardee and the two of them had a war of words long enough for Masters to recover and grab Pardee from behind, pull him into the center of the ring and put him in the Full Nelson. Pardee fought valiantly trying to escape the hold or make the ropes but Masters keeps it clamped on and eventually Pardee quits fighting and after having his arm raised and it falling 3 times, Mike Masters is declared the winner. Winner: Mike Masters in 9:32 with the Full Nelson Winners receive a Southwest Tag Team Title shot: Mr. Saito & Yoshi Seito vs. Ken Lucas & Eddie Gilbert - Yoshi Seito and Eddie Gilbert started the match against each other with Yoshi Seito luring Gilbert into his corner where Saito held Gilbert's trunks and Saito went for a big chop to Gilbert's head only for Gilbert to move and the chop to hit Saito. Saito and Seito argued in the corner and Gilbert then rammed their heads together. Mr. Saito demanded that Seito tag him in and Saito came in and got in Eddie Gilbert's face and started jawing with him. Saito swung at Gilbert but Gilbert ducked it and came back with a big punch that staggered Saito and then Gilbert grabbed Saito into a headlock but Saito quickly picked him up and dumped him on his head with a big belly to back suplex. Saito started stomping on Gilbert and chopping him in the throat while Gilbert was down which cause the referee to admonish him so Seito started choking Gilbert behind the referee's back while he was busy reading Saito the riot act. Ken Lucas tried to come to his partner's aid which only caused him to get double teamed as the referee had his back to the Japanese team while he was busy getting Ken Lucas out of the ring. Mr. Saito and Yoshi Seito isolated Eddie Gilbert in their half of the ring and worked him over but were unable to put him away for count of 3. Mr. Saito went for a back body drop on Gilbert, but Gilbert was able to leap frog over him and make a leaping tag to Ken Lucas in the corner! Things broke down after the tag as all 4 men wound up in the ring and Ken Lucas managed to lock his Sleeper in on Mr. Saito! The referee was focused on trying to get Eddie Gilbert and Yoshi Seito out of the ring however so Mr. Saito was able to break out of the sleeper by kicking his leg backwards right into the groin of Ken Lucas. Saito then grabbed Lucas and dropped him on his head with the Saito Suplex and covered him and the referee finally turned back around and made the count of 3. Winners: Mr. Saito and Yoshi Seito in 11:25 after a Saito Suplex on Ken Lucas Southwest Heavyweight Title:Jim Duggan vs. Tully Blanchard - As soon as the bell rang, Tully Blanchard threw powder into the eyes of Jim Duggan and got himself disqualified! Winner: Jim Duggan by DQ in :01 after Tully threw powder in his eyes Duggan was blinded and swinging wild punches trying to get at Tully while Tully kept weaving in and out of his grasp and peppering Duggan with jabs while mocking him and the crowd who were booing him like crazy. Finally Duggan was able to grab hold of Tully's hand after one of Tully's punches and blasted Tully with a big haymaker that sent Tully flying over the ropes. Duggan started wiping at his eyes to clear his vision as Tully ran over to grab his Southwest Heavyweight Title. Duggan tried to go out of the ring after Tully but Tully was too quick for him and was already half way up the aisle by the time Duggan got out of the ring. The crowd continued to boo and were livid at the result of the match and the fact that a match really didn't even take place. The Fabulous Ones & Roy Lee Welch vs. Ron Fuller, Robert Fuller & Jimmy Golden - This match started really wild with all 6 men brawling in and around the ring until after a few minutes it finally settled down to Robert Fuller against Steve Keirn. Keirn got the best of Robert in a brawl which caused Robert to call for Keirn to tag out to Roy Lee Welch. The crowd liked that idea so Keirn tagged Welch into the match and then Ron Fuller begged his brother to tag him in too, which he did. Ron Fuller came in and squared off with Roy Lee Welch and mocked the height different with Ron Fuller towering over Roy Lee Welch by nearly a foot in height. Ron got down on his knees to mock Welch some more which caused Welch to drop kick him right in the face! The Tennessee Stud fell backwards and Welch climbed on top of him and just started pounding away on him with punches! Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden ran in and started pounding on him which caused The Fabs to run in to help him but the referee blocked them from getting in the ring which allowed The Fullers and Golden to triple team on Welch. By the time the referee turned back around, Welch was caught in their corner and they were just wearing him out. They took turns tagging in and out and working him over, when they weren't double and triple teaming him, and eventually Robert wound up in the ring with him and set him up for the Fuller Leglock. Suddenly, Roy was able to step around the other way and reverse it into his own Fuller Leglock! Ron Fuller quickly ran in and booted Roy in the head to break it up however and then Roy and Robert both started to crawl to their corners to try and make a tag. They made it to their corners at the same time and Jimmy Golden and Stan Lane both came in and started brawling in the center of the ring with Stan ending up the winner of the fight by putting Jimmy Golden down with a karate kick. Golden tried to crawl to the corner but went the wrong way and found himself trying to make a tag to Steve Keirn who nailed him with a big right hand followed up with one from Roy Lee Welch and Golden stumbled back around to get one from Stan Lane as well. The Fullers tried to run into the ring and help him but the referee cut them off which allowed The Fabs and Roy Lee Welch to just start beating the crap out of Jimmy Golden in their corner. The referee finally turned around and started breaking it up as he caught Roy Lee Welch choking his cousin with the tag rope and Golden just about used that moment to crawl to his corner but got cut off by Steve Keirn who tagged himself in. Keirn sent Golden into the ropes and bounced off the other side for the Flying Forearm but Ron Fuller pulled the top rope down and instead Keirn went flying out to the arena floor. The referee didn't see it but suspected what happened and threatened to disqualify them while Ron Fuller proclaimed his innocence. Robert Fuller got off the apron and went to attack Keirn on the outside but Stan Lane ran around and chased him off. Stan helped Keirn back into the ring only for Keirn to get stomped on by Ron Fuller who tagged in while Keirn was on the outside. Ron got Steve Keirn into his corner and Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden started beating the crap out of him while Ron got the referee's attention and then Stan Lane tried to rush in and help Keirn which got the referee's attention on him and allowed Ron to join in and turn it into a triple team beat down on Steve Keirn. Keirn started to mount a comeback and started to fight all three of them off only to get cut off just as it looked like he was about to escape their corner. The beating on Keirn continued for a bit and then Jimmy Golden came in and put Keirn's head between his legs and motioned for a piledriver. Jimmy spent a lot of time bragging about how he was going break Keirn's neck however and Keirn wiggled free and crawled between Jimmy's legs to make a leaping tag to Roy Lee Welch! Things immediately broke down as all 6 men wound up in the ring fighting until eventually The Fabs found themselves outside of the ring battling The Fullers with the legal men, Welch and Golden, still in the ring. Golden was able to use the ref's distraction to his advantage and rake Welch's eyes and set him up for a piledriver but Welch took Golden's legs out from under him and then got him in the Spinning Toe Hold! Welch wrenched on it as Golden screamed for help from his cousins but The Fabs kept them from coming back into the ring to help him and finally Jimmy Golden had no choice but to submit! The crowd went wild as Roy Lee Welch had his hand raised and was declared the winner! Winners: Roy Lee Welch and The Fabulous Ones in 17:52 after Roy made Jimmy Golden submit to the Spinning Toehold The Fabulous Ones got their Southwest Tag Team Titles from ringside and also the TV Title which they handed to Roy Lee Welch and the three of them celebrated in the ring to the delight of the crowd while Jimmy Golden laid on the mat and screamed about his leg. Ron and Robert pulled Jimmy Golden out of the ring and helped him back to the locker room as he screamed about his leg being broken while the celebration continued in the ring Unsanctioned by the AWA Lights Out Match: Ron Starr vs. Abdullah the Butcher - This never even had the semblance of a wrestling match and was nothing but a wild fight. Ron Starr attacked the Butcher in the aisle as he made his way to the ring and the two of them ended up fighting up and down the entrance way, around the ringside area and even into the crowd. Both men hit each other with chairs, slammed the other one's head into the guard rail, the ring apron, and the ring steps. After only a few short minutes of action both men were bloodied and battered but Abdullah the Butcher was able to take control as he pulled out a fork and stabbed it into the head of Ron Starr as Starr was climbing over the guard rail to get back into the ringside area after Abdullah. Abdullah started carving into Ron Starr's head with the fork as the crowd in the HemisFair Arena wildly cheered Ron Starr to make a comeback. Abdullah had Starr down on the floor of the HemisFair Arena and looked to drop a big elbow on the midsection of 'Rugged' Ron Starr, targeting the previously injured ribs but Starr rolled out of the way and Abdullah landed with a hard thud on the concrete floor! Starr picked up the dropped fork off the floor and jammed it into Abby's head as he started to get back up! Starr started carving it into Abdullah the Butcher's forehead! Abby managed to get Starr off of him for a moment with a shot to the throat and then started to retreat to the locker room! Starr chased after him and the two men started to battle in the aisle again! The two of them crashed thru a section of the guard rail and were rolling around pounding on each other when the locker room emptied and almost the whole roster came out to pull them apart! Abdullah the Butcher took the chance he was given to escape and ran back to the locker room while everyone had to restrain Ron Starr from chasing after him! Result: No contest Ron Starr kept calling for Abdullah to come back but Abdullah disappeared behind the curtain into the locker room and didn't come back out so Jim Duggan raised Ron Starr's hand and pointed to him like he was the winner while the crowd went wild.

I hated the Rude Hasbro figure too his pose really made it impossible for him to do anything. And DiBiase's figure was for some odd reason way smaller than all the others and had an irremovable suit which meant he was only suitable to be a manager.

The Bill Dundee era was booked by Bill Dundee but still very much filtered through the vision of Bill Watts. It wasn't just Mid-South TV suddenly being exactly like Memphis it was a marriage of the two. It was fast moving TV with a lot of angles but they also treated stuff that would have been standard fare on Memphis TV as a far bigger deal in Mid-South. Cornette tells the story of Mid-South selling out a show with a blindfold battle royal which was a standard spot show bullshit match to help fill out a card in Memphis because of Bill Watts treating it like such a serious deal when he was talking about it on TV because Watts put over how dangerous it was. Every promoter used bookers anyway so that seems like a silly thing to fault him for that he didn't book it all himself. It shows that he was a GOOD promoter that he was able to take a booker who had ideas that were pretty different from his own and use them to great success which included putting much smaller guys than what usually worked in that area in top positions.

I don't think it would be as good as you think it would be and might find yourself on an island. It's not like Vince or Crockett did better trying to run in Memphis and Vince himself apparently told Bill Watts that no one kicked his ass like Watts did when Vince was first invading everyone's territory. Mid-South had some incredibly successful times based mostly off of Watts' vision. Yea the UWF went out of business but so did everyone else in that time period including Crockett. He just happened to have his company bought by Turner so it didn't die.

This may wind up being the only post in this thread but my beloved "Comments that don't warrant a thread" is dead so we're left to do things like this. I was thinking about how much better the Giant Gonzalez Hasbro action figure was than the actual wrestler and was wondering if anyone else might fit this label. Personally I think the Giant Gonzalez figure was the best of the whole Hasbro line as he was actually made to be a little bit taller than the rest of the figures and his goofy muscles painted on bodysuit in action figure form actually just made him look incredibly jacked up. He was the king of monster heels in my Hasbro WWF world and had quite a few runs with the WWF title.

I don't think that's really true I remember him being the same size during the end of his WWF days. EDIT: For some reason I remember him as jacked at the end of his WWF run but youtube is disproving that so maybe you're right. I could have swore I saw a Jim Powers jacked up pony tail era competitive squash match from WWF that inspired me to repackage my Roddy Piper Hasbro figure into Jim Powers but maybe it was from WCW.

I did think that Watts trying to run UWF shows in Jarrett's territory was an incredible mistake. He probably still had enough good will built up with Jarrett from the good years that they could have tried to work co-promoted shows and drawn a lot more money splitting the take on big houses by promoting UWF on Memphis TV as "invaders" trying to take over the area with The King and company going to war against them to fight them off than losing money on shows that the people in the area didn't support.

If Eva Marie was in the indies for almost 4 years and sucked at the level she does now, she wouldn't get backlash because nobody would know about her existance. Indy wrestling is flooded with women that are extremely attractive and extremely awful in the ring and it is barely a blip on the radar After seeing the statement, I would be shocked if Charlotte still has the title by the end of Survivor Series unless she comes out and admits that it was her idea even if it wasn't She would be Velvet Sky. As for the Flair thing, I think the outrage is just getting ridiculous. If this was another diva whose brother had died like that, I don't think it would get have the hate this is getting. It was in bad taste and shouldn't have happened but the hate is getting annoying. Agreed. And I think wrestling is better when it's not worried about being "tasteful" anyway. You can't on one hand complain about that incident and on the other admonish WWE for never taking risks and being too cookie cutter. You can't complain about WWE only booking "cowardly heels" but then get upset as soon as a heel does something to generate real heat. I'm not saying Paige bringing up Charlotte's dead brother is great booking but at least it was WWE taking a risk and trying to create a legit personal issue instead of relying on trading wins to manufacture a feud. With the reaction to this situation I'm inclined to agree with whoever it was that said we're past the point of a heel being able to generate real heat with the way fans react to these situations and WWE's need to worry about maintaining a family friendly facade for it's sponsors. I do agree with sek saying WWE releasing a statement essentially saying "hey it's not our fault it was Charlotte's idea" is bullshit and that's the only thing I think people could legit be outraged about.

Yea I really can't believe they released a statement about it at all. People are complaining about it on message boards, why does that suddenly warrant a response? It's not like they're going to release a statement about why the shows are so boring or why they feel like they can't consistently push more than 2 or 3 acts at a time.

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I'm going to just keep posting my shows and stick to the deals I've worked out but if we have to start once again beating the dead horse of what to do with dead promotions or trying to change roster caps I can't see myself having any interest in continuing. I don't see the point of us all voting on those things the last time around and agreeing those were the rules going forward just to rehash it all less than 2 months down the road. You can always PM Grimmas and try to work out a trade for a guy off one of the dead promotions it's not like they're completely unavailable.

If you have such a distaste for running a territory and think they're too rinky dink and small time for you then I don't know why you're even in this project which was essentially set up as a celebration of the goodness of territory wrestling. The whole premise was "what would happen if no one went national and the territory era continued" not a war to see who can go national first.

You don't want a "discussion" you want the rules to change so you can have everything your way despite the fact that we JUST voted on all this shit like a month ago. You've repeatedly wanted to change the rules from how they were set up at the start and despite no one really wanting to go along with it you're STILL trying to set things up for you to have some big expansion against the whole premise of this project.

No I'm not interested at all in having a giant rule argument every 4-6 weeks and think all that drama is one of the big reasons people have lost interest in the project. Activity has seemingly gone down after every one of them. The people who participated in projects like this on other sites like kevin and Super Stan have said that constant rule shifting didn't happen on those other sites and is the worst part of this experience.

I'm quitting too. I'm not going through another stupid drama filled argument over rules we already decided on. I'll be continuing my shows in the main Armchair Booking folder until at least the end of January which is where I have everything booked to.