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This is a tremendous recap of the whole NWO angle recapped by Gene Okerlund.
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[1996-09-11-UWFi vs WAR] Nobuhiko Takada vs Genichiro Tenryu
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This was great! Childs really summed up my thoughts well. I loved the chop vs kick stuff and contrast in styles, and everything both guys did look great. For all of Takada's strengths, emotion through facial expressions is not one of them though. I'm not sure why they played Yamazaki's music to close this out.- 13 replies
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Missy Hyatt looks the skankiest I've ever seen her. Taz is awesomely in character here. Cool feature. I cracked up that the interviewer was obviously told that ECW now has capacity crowds of several thousand, based on the final line.
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Shane Douglas and Francine go for a swim. Fonzie: "Why is Joey Styles growing a mustache? Because he wants to look like his mother!" Little Guido beats up a statue while being restrained by J.T. Smith. Brian Lee brags about taking out Terry Gordy. Divine Brown slaps Stevie Richards. Lori Fullington wants Sandman to die. Saturn hits himself until he bleeds, talking about "Doc & Gordy" over and over.
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Talk about it here.
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They can't show the Brian Pillman t-shirt they're selling or they'll get kicked off the air. Clever.
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DiBiase looking sinister in a suit was awesome. He starts listing a set of demands if the NWO wins War Games. Nash does a funny Ric Flair impersonation. Hall creates the NWO 4 Life hand signal for the first time.
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Last few minutes of the match only, as the post-match is the reason this is here. Another huge angle. Luger is about to put Steiner in the rack when Nick Patrick runs out to tell Luger the NWO is in the parking lot. Luger chases him outside. We hear Sting's voice coming out of a limo talking to DiBiase. Luger comes out and wants to know what's going on. Sting comes out and attacks him in a dark, rainy parking lot (talk about luck for executing this angle!) and the rest of the NWO joins in. Luger makes his own save and the NWO takes off. There was absolutely no reason to think anything had just happened other than Sting having just joined the NWO. This was a brilliant angle. Flair, Arn and Luger do another promo. Arn again is awesome. He says he's in a total state of shock, because Sting was the only WCW constant since the company started. Luger takes off to find Sting. Flair is sick of all the confusion. The Horsemen are going to War Games and if Luger wants to come along, he can. Makes no sense that the Horsemen didn't join the match at War Games based on all this, but whatever.
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Gene Okerlund's little sidebar conversations crack me up. As they start this interview, Juventud has just finished a match and is going back to the locker room. "Juventud Guerrera is a guy that just wanders around here, but that's another story", then goes right to the interview. They replay a recent Sting/Luger vs Steiners match where Luger bumps into Nick Patrick and gets DQ'd for it. Patrick defends himself and wants to know why Luger isn't suspended for chasing him out of the building. Nick Patrick blames Gene Okerlund for making people think he's in the NWO. Gene wants to know why Patrick recently has all these new expensive things, and Patrick says if Gene doesn't stop pushing these lies, they are going to end up in court. Patrick is a good promo. They cut to the parking lot with the NWO putting flyers on everyone's cars in the parking lot. They show DiBiase talking to someone in the parking lot. Who could it be?
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[1996-09-09-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Lex Luger, Ric Flair & Arn Anderson
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
Flair and Arn are pissed because Luger doesn't know where Sting is. Benoit and Mongo show up and say they knew this would happen. Flair tells Luger to tell his story walking, which is a line I always love! Arn does another amazing promo. "Let me tell you my mindset. Forget about the fact that he's not here for the interview. I've called ahead to Winston-Salem to get myself a hospital room, because I figure I just might need it. I expect to get hurt at War Games. So does he (Flair) and so should you (Luger) and so should Sting, because you see, when you walk in War Games in the cage, you've gotta put all that on the line if you expect to get all of that. Hogan, you took a baseball bat to me. But I was up and right in your face the very next week, so apparently, I got more guts than you got talent. You tried to put my eyes out with paint. You should have used battery acid! That's what I would have done. You lit this fire! Now it's gonna burn you all to the ground!"- 7 replies
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[1996-09-07-USWA-TV] Wolfie D and Bill Dundee feud recap
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Excellent video package summarizing the whole Wolfie D/Bill Dundee feud, capped off with a promo with Wolfie D & Jesse James Armstrong. -
This is my first exposure to Pancrase and I'm not really sure what to make of it. It doesn't seem as thrilling or visceral as UWFI or RINGS, even though it does get better toward the end. It's cool how the heat builds, but it's hard for me to go in cold and understand why "x" thing gets a pop and "y" thing doesn't, and that sort of thing. I'll try coming back to this sometime after seeing more Pancrase.
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Flair is pathetic. If he was anyone but Ric Flair, he'd be blacklisted from wrestling for pulling stuff like this. This is Ultimate Warrior-level professionalism. Ridiculous that someone who has made more money in wrestling than all but a handful of people has to pull stuff like this.
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Sid has a tug-o-war with an elephant at the Special Olympics, and there are clips of other guys mixed in doing autograph signings, making appearances, etc. I'm shocked that RODDY PIPER showed up. This wasn't too far ahead of the Halloween Havoc appearance, and I didn't realize he had a WWF appearance this late. What caused their falling out (if there was one) anyway? Or was it just that WCW offered a lot of money? Then, Bob Backlund introduces the Iron Sheik and says he's going to lead him back to the WWWF title!!! Jim Ross: "I thought the Iron Sheik was in a home somewhere." Ross clarifies that what Backlund meant is that he would be the trainer for the Sheik's associate who would be coming to the WWF soon. I guess this was the best counter the WWF could produce to all the 80s stars on the other channel.
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[1996-09-06-WWF-Raw Championship Friday] Steve Austin vs Marc Mero
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
Good match. Not at the level of the King of the Ring match, but still very good. Austin was really strong in the ring by this point. He wasn't being put in the position to have great matches week in and week out, but he delivered pretty much every time he had to. So much focus is put on Austin's character, and rightfully so, that it's easy to forget how good he became in the ring. -
[1996-08-05-NJPW-G1 Climax] Keiji Muto vs Shiro Koshinaka
Loss replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
Sorry, should read a few days earlier.- 11 replies
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[1996-09-05-AJPW-Summer Action Series II] Stan Hansen vs Kenta Kobashi
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
Childs was right on. I expected this to be a good match, but didn't expect it to be great because I figured Hansen's time in the sun was mostly over. But this is maybe the best All Japan singles match of the year. Hansen, as Childs said, delivered a world class performance, between his selling, facial expressions and execution. These two just had tremendous chemistry. Was this Hansen's last great match? This feels like a legit MOTYC to me, which I didn't expect. This doesn't touch the '93 match, but it's a great match in a great year.- 19 replies
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The opening minute with Akiyama and Ace is awesome. Just one counter after another and neither guy being able to hit anything. I think I like this better than the 6/7 match between these teams, just because this is a really fantastic Johnny Ace performance. There are some things he does that are a little physically awkward, but for whatever reason, it works. He was the guy who stood out the most to me here.
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Absolutely. I was thinking more the traditional world champion role.
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Well, this is something that started in two places: * Hall and Nash doing their constant shooty shooty stuff in WCW * WWE debuting those 20-minute back and forth promos which were just cheapshot after cheapshot and barely built to a main event on the same television show, much less something long-term HHH learned how to do promos during that time period and spent the next decade saying really counterproductive things when building to matches with Booker, RVD, Jericho, Cena and probably others. Since then, it's just become standard operating procedure. Before you say that's how everyone did things at the time, watch some Austin stuff as a babyface during that time. When they temporarily booked themselves into a corner and made Austin/Chyna the Summerslam '99 main event (yes), Austin said he'd just have an easier night. It would have taken him 30-45 minutes to beat HHH, and it would just take him a few minutes to beat Chyna. I thought that was great. Also, Rock was king of the put down, but if you look at stuff he did with guys on the way up like Jericho and Lesnar, he stayed focused on building the match.
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I've always thought a good heel says "You may be good, but I'm better."
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It's not. I just read it and it's a lot of repeating repeating repeating repeating repeating repeating.
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Punk is also the current top heel and has held the title. There was a news item in the WON a few months ago about how WWE realizes they need to start getting over small guys as threats because the guys coming into wrestling now aren't as big as they were in the past, and that the stars of tomorrow will be much smaller. I don't know when they start actually making inroads toward that goal, but the point isn't lost on WWE that it's where wrestling is going.
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Hiroshi Hase, Kevin Sullivan, Bill Dundee, probably others.