Phil Schneider

I remember really digging this Daga v. Suicida match I saw live on a IWL PPV, might have been overating it with the novelty of watching a live Lucha IPPV, I also liked some of his IWRG undercard stuff. I could easily see your point, he is part of the current tape watching luchadore class, and that doesn't match up at all with what I want in lucha libre (or any wrestling for that matter), haven't seen any AAA Daga and I could see that atmosphere encouraging his worst tendencies.

That match is so fucking good

Perro Aguayo vs. Sangre Chicana, 3/20/92 I normally hate heel ref lucha matches, but this was too much fun to ignore. Any time Chicana and Perro locked up it was brawly awesomeness, but the bullshit was great too. Konan was losing his shit at ringside and was a great second and Chicana and Fiera were marvelous bastards. When they were smashing Perro's head into the turnbuckle it looked like they were trying to extract coconut water. Probably the best heel ref focused lucha match I have ever seen.

OK do a Great Lucha write up of that six man

I'll watch it tonight. I demand a long great lucha blog post about it

Man is this a total blast. Just a wild crazy brawl between six really over charismatic crazy guys. Aguyao v. Chicana is like the Lawler v. Dundee of lucha, you always want to see those guys tear after each other, Chicana had this wild half concussed selling where he took these cool lose his balance bumps, including a neat one off the apron. This was also by far the best Konan performance I have seen. He actually looked like a competent professional wrestling, brawling looked good, bumped well, hit all of his stuff. This isn't the kind of thing which people might seek out on paper, especially back in the early days of internet fandom, when all of these guys were shit on by Meltzer and Bob Barnett, but this was awesome and right up there with the better trios brawls on the 80s set.

I didn't check first but apparently this match was on the 1992 yearbook and folks loved it. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?showtopic=13494 Cool I am glad to see this isn't as hidden a gem as I thought

Cien Caras/Máscara Año 2000/Sangre Chicana vs Konnan/Perro Aguayo/El Rayo de Jalisco Jr CMLL 3/1/92 Man is this a total blast. Just a wild crazy brawl between six really over charismatic crazy guys. Aguyao v. Chicana is like the Lawler v. Dundee of lucha, you always want to see those guys tear after each other, Chicana had this wild half concussed selling where he took these cool lose his balance bumps, including a neat one off the apron. This was also by far the best Konan performance I have seen. He actually looked like a competent professional wrestling, brawling looked good, bumped well, hit all of his stuff. This isn't the kind of thing which people might seek out on paper, especially back in the early days of internet fandom, when all of these guys were shit on by Meltzer and Bob Barnett, but this was awesome and right up there with the better trios brawls on the 80s set.

My personal revelation from the 1980s lucha set. I had seen the MS1 match before, but when you add all of the other awesome performances in that set, I think he might go down as the greatest brawler in wrestling history. Insane bumper and bleeder, great left hook and just impeccable timing on his comebacks and attacks. I figured this would be a good place for folks to put some of their 80's Chicana reviews and to search out other performances.

I wonder what percentage of the people voting for Tanahashi on work have actually watched 5 Tanahashi matches. I am pretty sure that all the old wrestlers with ballots aren't going on dailymotion to watch NJ, same with a lot of historians. I bet a ton of them just read Meltzer drop five stars on all of those matches and nod their heads and write him down

I love the niche fetishism slam in a discussion about a US pro-wrestling hall of fame run by a mimeographed newsletter, and whether the wrestling performance of a Japanese guy people watch on youtube is better the some other Japanese guys other people watched on duplicated traded video tapes. It is all fucking niche.

The dates the matches actually happened is what should be used

Here is my Segunda Caida review of that match Dick Togo v. Antonio Honda DDT 1/30/11-EPIC The Dick Togo singles match train continues. Gem after gem, his last six months have been incredible. Honda is a comedy guy an used to be Togo's partner in the DDT Italian Horseman. This is clearly the match of his life, and I give him a ton of credit for stepping up and bringing it to Togo like he did. Early part of the match had Honda working over Togo's arm. Togo did a really nice job selling, and it makes total sense to give him a ding to make Honda's offense credible, still Honda's attack was a little pedestrian. Match really kicks it into gear when Honda hits a nice tope and comes up bloody. After that, the match morphs into a Mid South Coliseum main event, with Togo working over the bloody babyface and Honda making awesome valiant comebacks. Togo has him in the corner, smashing his head into the turnbuckle and punching him, and Honda does a full on Lawler 1986 TX Death Match comeback, dropped strap, 17 punch combo ending in a huge uppercut for a near fall. Such a neat moment, which Togo sold perfectly. We get a big near fall run, which is really something that Dick Togo does better then anyone in the world, and then take a trip back to TN with an awesome punch Lawler v. Mantel style toe to toe punch exchange. Hell of match, the kind of thing only Dick Togo can deliver in 2011. If he really retires in June it will be at the height of his game, like Jordan leaving in 93, lets hope Togo does a season of minor league baseball and returns to the game

I am with Matt on old Andre, I liked the Warrior match, although Warrior sucked, and also loved the Savage match where he attacks Elizabeth. I am not a huge fan of face Andre, didn't love the match which made the 80s lucha set for example, but I love heel Andre he is such a smirky jerk and also can be a terrifying monster

Did you see the PARK v. Mesias series from a couple years ago? Similar matches which may have even better

I nominate you

Given the roster, who would you introduce? Hero? Ritchie Steamboat? I don't know. Styles? When's Rey due back? It shouldn't be a small guy like Styles or Rey. Having two underdogs vs the World makes no sense in the DB storyline. The perfect candidate would actually have been Kane if not for the Wyatt storyline. I didn't realize Sami Callihan was only 5'10". I got nothing. They obviously wasted Brody Lee's debut. No way is Sami Callihan 5'10 he is super short. 5'4-5'5ish

It is almost like despite all the historical evidence his personal bias don't allow him to believe the match is good. It's like he is a Christian v. ADR denier.