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Ref getting a cardio workout on that finishing sequence trying to count all those pins.

I wasn't sure at first if it was legit, but it seems at this point it really did happen.

Reference to Jimmy Havoc getting trashed at the company party for Tony, getting choked out by Excalibur, and dragged off by the Atlas dudes.

lol @ Excalibur giving props to Atlas Security for keeping the undesirables out.

Tully still can do the spike like a MF.

Apparently it was a big selling point to TNT having JR on commentary so he's probably there for the long haul.

He's coming off like he's gotten to over people saying he's sounding too grouchy on commentary.

Page-PAC turned into a fun little match by the end.

I liked the idea someone here had about AEW linking up with Ricky's school. They could do worse than having their tag teams watch RnR matches.

I lol'd at cubsfan on Twitter joking that AEW better list Excalibur as 1-0 now.

Well if the Jimmy Havoc story is true, maybe they bonded over sharing chokehold stories.

The pre show has been great so far. Love watching Mox walking around an empty 2300 Arena reminiscing about CZW.

At least the Shakespeare line set up a jab at Cornette's expense ("you were in the room with him!")

I hope this story is true if for no other reason that it means Atlas is their shoot security team.

I'd wager Excalibur looks less goofy without his mask than Havoc does without his.

Yeah, but Hulk was already a big name thanks to being in Rocky III (WWE revisionist history makes people forget that happened before he came back to the WWF).

On one hand, yes they're all big boys and girls and at the end of the day they have the right and ability to tell Vince to GFY if they want to. On the other hand, the imbalance of power is real and I can't really be too mad at someone not wanting to the the first one to fling themselves under the bus. It's like when free agency happened in baseball: it was a godsend that changed the balance of power from owners to players, but the guy who made it happen (Curt Flood) had his career ended in the process.

British crowd goes nuts for British superstar, rest of the world continues not to give a flying fuck.

The tapings for both Smackdown and Raw seem like huge garbage fires.

Cosplay really needs to disappear from the vocabulary of wrestling fans nowadays.

Not everyone wants to sit at home and collect a paycheck for nothing, to get to the point WWE is interested means they have ridiculous levels of drive and I can't imagine 95% of the roster content with Ferris Bueller-ing their prime career years.

Wrestlers have been conditioned for the last 20+ years to not rock the boat and be in constant fear of unemployment, I'm sure that's some shit you just can't forget because there are more options. Plus you have to think the wrestlers are getting a constant stream of misinformation and FUD about all the competitors to make them not sure they really have a choice.

Honestly I was thinking the same thing. It's kind of gross how certain circles have misused a real symptom of emotional trauma because they heard a feminist use it once.

It's also basic psychology. No one wants to be the tallest blade of grass to get cut down first, so if you put everyone in the room and ask someone to speak up odds are no one will want to be the first one to do so. Especially since as the WON bit mentioned, it wouldn't have made any difference. So why cut your own throat for no reason? Most of these people have families and I'm sure saw the meeting for what it was and I can't blame them for not wanting to martyr themselves. Especially since with the nature of wrestlers, there was a pretty good chance anyone who did speak up would get hung out to dry by everyone else there. Hunter waiting until the end to call out Karl was a bitch ass move though. Comes off as a 100% "don't forget who has the biggest dick here" play. It's just amazing how a guy can hit the lottery personally and professionally and still constantly reveal himself to be the most insecure, petty motherfucker possible.

I mentioned it in the main Network thread.