Jmare007

To me feels ridiculous because I'm from Chile, have way more cultural connections with Mexico (shit, even my sister has been living there since 2010) and have NEVER liked the style that much. When I was a kid I found it kinda intriguing but it never really grabbed me. Puro in the other hand clicked with me from the get go. I had no fucking clue who Meltzer was in 2004 but I downloaded a link from a thread that was pimping Kobashi and was hooked till this day. I also read places that praised lucha workers (specially Santo) but never once I felt as compelled to seek footage as I did puro. And when I tried to give lucha a chance again I ended up having the problems I've already mentioned in this an other threads. There's no cultural nothing on my part. I watched Chavo del Ocho since as long as I remember (i still laugh at Don Ramon's fuckery and Chespirito in general), same thing with anime. I just found a style more compelling that the other, there isn't a bigger, deeper meaning on it than that. So I can understand people feeling that some of you guys are reaching with this racial/cultural take on this issue. I know my case is different because I'm not from the US but I can see people feeling like me instead of something "deeper".

or Grimmas is saying he doesn't feel obligated to watch puro anymore, since puro fans don't feel obligated to watch lucha. That's a completely difference statement. I find this statement really weird. People not feeling obligated to watch wrestling they don't feel emotionally attached to (or that don't like a particular style) is something that happens across the board, not just lucha. There's a ton of fans that don't like or know about indy wrestling and don't feel obligated to seek and watch the most pimped matches. Same for British wrestling, lucha and even puro. I felt obligated for years to try to seek out the best stuff of the year in order to make a best match of the year list or to feel worthy to talk about who is the best. If you only watch your favourites how can you claim to make a best of anything list? Aren't you just making your favourites list then? That was my mindset, but that is a minority mindset, so I'm dropping it. I get that. I felt that way for like a year but couldn't keep it up because is quickly felt more like chore than anything else. What I don't understand is why single out puro when it something that happens with fans of almost every style.

or Grimmas is saying he doesn't feel obligated to watch puro anymore, since puro fans don't feel obligated to watch lucha. That's a completely difference statement. I find this statement really weird. People not feeling obligated to watch wrestling they don't feel emotionally attached to (or that don't like a particular style) is something that happens across the board, not just lucha. There's a ton of fans that don't like or know about indy wrestling and don't feel obligated to seek and watch the most pimped matches. Same for British wrestling, lucha and even puro.

Wow, that was a horrible trailer. Maybe they couldn't get permission to use footage owned by WWE so they can't show him cutting promos and actually being the Nature Boy?

Was there any answer to the question in the OP that would've made you change this decision? What happened in the last two months? just curious.

This sums it up for me. Though I can still enjoy the hell out of some of the regarded classics from lucha, for the most part I just don't care enough about it to continue to seek for it. Like, I appreciate what I'm watching but very rarely do I feel emotionally invested in it. Part of the deal for me is the commentary, I even made a thread about it. Lucha commentary is fucking unbearable and takes me out completely of most matches. It's hard as fuck to suspend disbelief and buy into the drama when the play-by-play feels completely phony, forced and uninspired. In my case it's a detriment that Spanish is my first language and an advantage that I don't know anything about Japanese, the over the top screaming still feels genuine and passionate to the point it adds to the action I'm watching. I tried my best during the GWE project to watch and like lucha but was only able to follow 5 guys, and even though they all did well in my ballot and I really enjoyed their work (specially Casas) I haven't even tried to look for more of their matches or delve into current lucha.

I thought the first 20 minutes were kinda boring, I wasn't compelled by anything they did. It picked up for the final third, the OT was really good.

We really need an update on the board to embed tweets... Anyway, WWE announced today they are doing a UK Tournament for the Network starting in January, with the winner getting this belt Nigel McGuinness will be a co-host and was today in the announcement. https://twitter.com/WWE/status/809358953708744704 It's gonna be a 16 man tourney.

Sorry if this offends you so much, but this is a major issue with our society, the food issues, and the medical profession. Do these guys need a six pack or a flat stomach? Is that even possible with them? Would that make them healthier? These are questions we do not know the answer to. Why call them fat? What is the point? Let's all post pictures of ourselves and call 99% fat by your standards, will that help anything? They are great or bad pro wrestlers based on their skills, not on their bellies. How is that even relevant to anything? Does it offend you to see their stomachs? The hell? During the GWE you were calling some wrestlers fat all the time and saying how awesome they are, just like stro has called 2016 Chris Hero fat and awesome. You are trying to make this a way bigger discussion than what it is and I have no clue why. I wonder if that problem is because of the talent (there's little room for less known wrestlers) or because Ryan Ward left for SD.

That was fucking perfect.

The funniest part is that the Tokyo Dome isn't the best venue to find great japanese matches. Like, at all.

Kinda surprised how little discussion there's been for the WON HOF this year, at least on this board.

That was pretty great. Wanted Miz to get the W but the crowd eat that up...which makes me wonder why they didn't end the show with this match.

It better be Dolph retiring and getting a sendoff....

Now I REALLY want Miz to win, but I can't see it happening. Agreed.

According to Bryan, that match wasn't taped. Doubt there's a fan cam of a random house show in 04'.

It was mostly explained in the mockumentary. In 2013 Bryan started to appear a lot on the JBL & Cole youtube show, that at the time was doing a talent show among some wrestlers. D-Bry created a character called "The Dazzler" that showed that one of his talents was wrestling a bear - he also did a hilarious rap with Kane and a ninja bit with Regal that was amazing - that same week Bryan did commentary on Saturday Morning Slam were he kept the gimmick going and connected every match to wrestling a bear (you can hear a lot of his sound bites in the mockumentary) so it became kind of a "thing". Now, why they did a 20 minute documentary on this during his time off in 2015 I have no clue. I guess he was bored and wanted to have fun with it, I find it surprising how much preparation though, I'm surprised WWE didn't upped it sooner on their youtube channel.

He's given Satánico major props too. In a recent interview he even said that's one of his dream opponents.

Yeah, I heard the last WOR and he was praising how great the Miz/Dolph segment was. It was Alvarez how say he hated it and had a little back and forth with Dave about it.

Or Rollins during the Authority era.

Now I want a best of 7 between Rusev and Roman. I hope Rusev doesn't get lost in the shuffle like the did the first time he lost that belt. I guess he's gonna get a rematch but after that they better come up with something worth a damn for him.

I think Dylan had an interesting take about this on twitter...if I knew how to embed tweets on this board I'd do it but I can only copy/paste what he wrote. https://twitter.com/DylanWaco/status/779394612297216000 [MEDIA=twitter]779394612297216000[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=twitter]779395384099557376[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=twitter]779395543407599616[/MEDIA]

Metalik is awesome glad he's in the Final.

Bryan's been like that on interviews for years though. He's always saying stuff WWE wouldn't want their talent to say or revealing details that don't always make the company look good. I don't see him asking for his release again nor WWE granting him it even if he did. I don't think his "forced" retirement will lead to anything until his contract expires in 2018.

Man can't wait for AJ to have an Ace run till at least Wrestlemania. Dude is something else.