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Top 50 at absolute worst if he stays CESARO.

His SMASH/WNC renaissance was very, very nice. He'd be top ten in "guys who ranked at all in '06" who were able to add to their resumes, I think.

I'll defend KOTR '01 as a ****1/2 classic if you apply a "shoot psychology" to it. Kurt and Shane negotiated the spots the way that they did because they couldn't stand each other. "He did that chain wrestling spot where he beat me, I'm totally gonna sandbag him on the suplexes through the glass." Two men who cooperated in having a match in which they did things that only people who hate each other would do.

If you want to shit on 'Taker's matches with HHH or whatever, fine. But I love this "how many CLASSICS emerged from his feuds with The Great Khali and Giant Gonzales and post-stroke Gordy and fucking Kama Mustafa and Bundy and why wasn't his Skyscraper run memorable?" attitude. A million Kane matches. A few hundred thousand Big Show matches, almost none when both were at reasonably full health.

I like Tana, but don't think that he's top 100 at all, even though I knew he'd make it. So that's nice.

Don West was also great at saying lines that were given to him by Dusty or Dutch, too, better than Tenay. Him talking about the Six Sides of Steel and its lack of "play" in the fencing during the second AMW-XXX cage match is exactly what Dusty would say, and West somehow makes that Dusty impression work.

A lot of wrestlers are borderline retards, so they just thought that the runes were cool, like what a metal band would use? I mean, they are obviously white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood punkasses, but I am willing to believe that they are that stupid in the name of "sick tats".

I might have put him top 100 because I like some of his non-superspectacle big matches a lot more than average (Hardy on RAW '02, Lesnar at Unforgiven '02) and I just really like the WWF New Gen main event style. Trips on GMT alone wouldn't have stood a chance. I'd have him above Jericho. He'd have been a cut before Sano, TAKA, and the joshi culling, though.

'Taker is one of the heads of state when it comes to SC-era candidates who added to their resume, though. Not even six months removed from a MOTYC against Lesnar. Something something Great Match Theory something something please kill me.

Yeah, I was 10 back on HMs.

Kurt Angle made the top 100. But so did Virus. That's a distinct win.

Seeing him surrounded by Devil/Kansai/Oz should put his peak into context, though.

Oh man, Jericho is way worse as top 100 than 'Taker.

The Eagle has landed.

I'm not at all surprised by that. Little to add to his legacy since '06 and mostly precedes the Super J era. The appreciation of his shootstyle stuff, especially the PWFG classics, came after '06. But even there he's second-tier as a name. I don't know. I'd have put him top 100.

I'm not at all surprised by that. Little to add to his legacy since '06 and mostly precedes the Super J era.

Some great marginal gains for Johnny Saint, who was really one of the only Old British Guys who wouldn't gain a lot from WoS gaining momentum. Tony St. Clair is also in that category, I think.

I find the idea of Kobashi not wanting to win the Best Bout Award kind of insane, I'll be honest.

Lets just transport Necro to peak Memphis and Continental. Life isnt fair. Omg YES! Necro in BattlARTS, ECW, and Puerto Rico in '98-2000. Assuming that the footage would be available. That's an easy one, though. Necro as a lucha brawler speaks for itself, but I can never get past him in PR.

Yeah, 58th or so seems like a safe landing spot.

9/14/91 AIW The Unheard Music (live on WGN in place of Transmission TV) Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL 1) Blue Panther ©, Negro Navarro, & Pierroth defeat Misteriosito, Misterioso ©, & Rey Misterio in a captain's fall elimination match; Misteriosito was eliminated via pinfall by Panther after a backbreaker (4:16), Pierroth was eliminated via pinfall by Misterioso after a powerbomb (11:17), Misterio was eliminated via submission by Navarro with La Navarro Especial (13:38), Misterioso was eliminated via submission by Panther with El Nudo Lagunero (16:02), ending the match. (16:02) 2) Villano IV, Villano V, & Volador © defeat La Fiera, Fuerza Guerrera ©, & Kung Fu in a captain's fall elimination match; Kung Fu was eliminated via pinfall by V5 after a top rope crossbody (5:19), Guerrera was eliminated via DQ after hitting Volador with a low blow and trying to claim that Volador had hit him first (7:46), ending the match. Guerrera was incredulous and proceeded to low-blow the referee. (7:46) 3) Fatu, The Great Kokina ©, & Samu defeat Headhunter Manuel, Headhunter Victor, & TNT © in a no disqualification captain's fall elimination match; Fatu was eliminated via pinfall by Manuel after a spear from the ring to the floor (8:58), Manuel was eliminated via pinfall by Samu after a uranage through the timekeeper's table (13:43), Samu was eliminated via pinfall by Victor after being hit in the face with a 2x4 wrapped in barbed wire (15:24), Victor was eliminated via pinfall by Kokina, who had spent the better part of the match brawling around the arena with TNT, after a running senton with a chair placed on top of Victor (16:41), TNT was eliminated via pinfall by Kokina after a chokeslam after the two men had dueled for the last minutes of the match with barbed wire 2x4s, on which TNT landed after the slam (19:22), ending the match. (19:22) 4) El Freebird Fabuloso ©, Jeff Jarrett, & Buddy Landel defeat Black Magic ©, Dean Malenko, & Joe Malenko in a captain's fall elimination match; Joe Malenko was eliminated via pinfall by El Freebird after a spear (5:51), Dean Malenko was eliminated via pinfall by Jarrett after a DDT by Landel and a diving fist drop by Jarrett (8:12), Landel was eliminated by Black Magic via submission with a Boston Crab (8:28), Black Magic was eliminated via pinfall with a powerslam by El Freebird (13:15), ending the match. (13:15) 5) Chavo Guerrero ©, Eddie Guerrero, & Hector Guerrero defeat El Brazo, Brazo de Oro ©, & Brazo de Plata in a captain's fall elimination match after Brazo de Oro was eliminated by Hector Guerrero via submission with a Gory Special (14:38). ending the match. (14:38) 6) The Blue Blazer, Medico Muerte ©, & Wild Pegasus defeat The Relampago Kid, Rick Rude ©, & Sangre Minnesota in a captain's fall elimination match; Sangre Minnesota was eliminated via pinfall after a powerbomb (7:01), Rude was eliminated via countout after walking out on the match (9:29), not having shared the enthusiasm of his younger teammates from the start, ending the match. (9:29) 7) Eddie Guerrero won a 14-man battle royal to win the first-ever Zapata Cup, last eliminating Blue Panther. Eliminations in order... Villano IV by The Great Kokina (2:33), Negro Navarro by The Great Kokina (2:56), Hector Guerrero by The Great Kokina (3:28), The Great Kokina by El Freebird Fabuloso & Jeff Jarrett (3:34), Villano V by Chavo Guerrero (5:29), Jeff Jarrett by Medico Muerte (6:41), Volador by Blue Panther (6:59), The Blue Blazer by El Freebird Fabuloso (8:45), Chavo Guerrero by Blue Panther (9:01), Wild Pegasus by El Freebird Fabuloso (11:13), El Freebird Fabuloso & Medico Muerte by each other (14:28), Blue Panther by Eddie Guerrero (18:13). (18:13)

What about making matches that don't have to be great into great matches for your Cena-types? Example: Cena & Rhodes Bros vs. Sandow & Real Americans, SmackDown main event in October or November 2013. It didn't have to be a great match, it just needed to be pretty good. But it actually is a great match, and Cena is key to it, like a late spot where he just blows up Jack Swagger with a tackle on the outside.

If you try to make sausage out of everything that he's said over the years, he just got bored really quickly. He was never inspired enough by the subtleties of what he was doing.

"He was great at Kent State." Amateur style grappling kinda-seems-to-give-a-shit Ziggler IS a good wrestler. I might say very good. He's just too much of a dick to stay with it.

David Young was awesome. He and Cross get five minutes the next week, which I imagine to be fun. Sonny Siaki is just legitimately useless.