MoS

I agree with this, with the very minor caveat that I don't think anyone in 1980s WWF had any cause to complain about Hogan. I know the story about Jake Roberts DDTing Hogan and fans chanting DDT, but if Jake or anyone thinks that fans would have gone with Jake over Hogan if they had taken that feud across the horn all over the country, they are deluded. Hate to disagree with good bubba, but I am not sure this is true. I think Roman's problem has been that he has been booked really strong, kept in main events, won against so many hardcore favourites, but..at the exact time when they should pull the trigger and put him over the top, they get cold feet. That doesn't make him look like Rock, it makes him look like Cena..except if Cena had jobbed to Hunter and Shawn at WM 22 and 23. That for the longest time was the biggest issue with Reigns. He was overpushed and was the new Super-Cena...except he really was not, cuz he would choke in his most important matches. But "most important matches" by default means that he never lost to a mid-carder or someone that came completely out of the blue. He beat Taker, he beat Cena, he beat Hunter, he beat Styles, he beat Jericho, he beat Bryan, so many people. And his losses were against Lesnar, Rollins when for whatever reason they were really pushing him, Strowman when he was so over people were comparing him to Vader, etc. His issue was that his losses were at the absolute worst time possible for him. In particular, his loss to Lesnar a couple of years ago at WM was just unforgivable. Rock, on the other hand, for absolutely zero reason, in 2000, when he was over like God, jobbed to Bossman for no reason. He once tapped out to Benoit's crossface when faces in WWE just did not do that. He once jobbed to E&C to lose the tag titles he had a cup of coffee with along with Taker. Hell, he lost to Triple H way more times than he should have, even though the fans thought of him as the God-King in the first half of 2000. He jobbed to Angle and really made him, after Hunter had refused to lose to Angle cuz apparently it was not realistic that a woman would ever leave a manly man like him for a mere Olympic gold medalist. And of course he jobbed to Austin, but Austin was the only one in the entire era who was above him in fan popularity and the totem pole (by the slightest of margins), so that was fine.

I did, which is why I was a bit surprised at how shocked some of the reactions are. I completely get the forbidden door point, and the bad blood between the two promotions, but this has been teased for a fair while now, and kicked into overdrive last week

You all need to chill out and rock out to some party Bollywood songs

It was cool seeing KENTA. The match itself started flat and then Ray Fenix fucking turned up and made it a banger. What a fucking stud that guy is. I really hope he gets a good single run before he retires. Good episode of Dynamite. Not as good as last week's, cuz I didn't like the Sting segment and I thought the wedding was underwhelming, but it's still better than some of the recent episodes, when I had legit started losing interest. Hope they continue being interesting like the last two weeks

Mox is just so much cooler than Omega and the Good Brothers combined. Combine him with Fenix and it just becomes a complete massacre

That wedding was...meh? The lumberjack match was aces tho

The SINISTER MINISTER

Really good match, this is in the top 2 Britt Baker matches in AEW, the Shida match where she broke her nose being the other

A friend of mine said derisively: imagine if WCW had had Pedro Morales lurk in front of Sting in the rafters in 1997

I am absolutely done with these Sting segments. He comes out and cuts the same promo every week, and he was never ever a good promo. And now he is coming second after Darby and speaking for him while Darby lurks in the background. Darby is a hundred times cooler than Sting ever was, let Sting remain in the background. Wow Britt looks serious and ready to fuck shit up

The main event is an absolute banger, extremely excited for it. Also looking forward to Miro finally ditching Superdork

@joeg's excellent thread about winning streaks made me think of this. It has to be between Cena, Rock and Flair, isn't it? ALl of them have ridiculous losses on the record. If I had to go with one, I would pick Rock. Cena had the more squashy, jobber-y losses, but he was also booked like a superman in some of his matches. Rock's run was much briefer (although obviously had much higher highs) and even during that run, he was jobbing clean to Big Bossman, E&C, and even tapping to a Chris Benoit crossface. And this is something I would like to be discussed, should a top guy be unselfish? Like of course they should not sandbag their opponents, but do we really need THE GUY to lose too much? Wrestling is not real sport, but Michael Jordan won 6 championships in 8 years, was basically the Hogan of wrestling, and that never stopped his drawing power. The difference of course is that pro wrestling is scripted and thus to ensure the health of the business, you have to make new stars. But where's the line? What's the balance? Should Hogan have traded wins with Roddy Piper in 1985?

Wait, is Sheamus heel again? Are they trying to break Big SHow's record of most career turns

Bro.....

It absolutely would not be a good idea

Yeah it really is, especially cuz her genuinely great, clever sense of humour is evident throughout the podcast. It's so cruel that someone like her has had to go through what she did. Also, Brodie's last words were something like "Buy the kid a fucking denim jacket"

I didn't know that the Vince-Kurt horseplay happened on the trip to the UK. The way Taker told the story on Austin's podcast, if I recall correctly, was that when it happened, he was out with several painkillers cuz Austin had busted his ear hardway with a steel chair shot. So he was out of it and when he woke up, the first thing he saw was Angle wrestling Vince, and he immediately put him in a choke. Then when Vince and Angle told him they're playing, he released the hold and went straight back to sleep. I had always assumed that this was after the PPV and during the plain ride from hell - Austin even used that term during the podcast. But then I checked the PPV results and Austin worked Big Show and Taker worked Hunter, so they wouldn't have been hitting each others with steel chairs at the PPV

I am cool with being the Bobby Heenan to WE's Nick Bockwinkel (Please no comparison to Callis and Omega, both of them are fucking dorks)

When Carmella became the first Sasha feud, I was told that it's a good stopgap one and done feud for her before she moves to bigger things. Well we are at the Rumble now and for some reason she is still having to carry Carmella despite winning clean the first time? Why? How about pushing someone else

To be very honest, I misread that part, and read 'reruns' as 'run.' That's on me, I apologise. I still think he's full of shit a bit, but @NintendoLogic is correct about SoCal being a dead territory in the late 70s - NOT the early 70s, where there were numerous full houses - so maybe I am the one full of shit, and he was telling the truth. I accept zero responsibility and again blame Larry Z and Greg Gagne for conditioning me to be skeptical about what wrestlers say. Hey, if all the wrestlers in interviews can refuse to take their rightful blame and deflect to someone else, why can't I lol

Lawyer here. It depends on the financial status of the parties, but in general, for sexual harassment cases and for defamation suits relating to that, it costs a lot, and more than the money, it's the sheer time and emotional energy that are real deal-breakers. Bar fights usually have cameras and multiple witnesses, so one way or another, they can get adjudicated quickly. Sexual harassment is a lot of he said-she said, and, like in the present case, the male accused is financially more secure than the female accuser. So it goes on and on, costs a bomb, and every day the accuser has to hear multiple versions of how she is making it up, how she is a gold-digger, how she just wants the attention, etc. It becomes extremely traumatic and just not worth literally losing your mind over. Hence why a lot of victims withdraw their complaints, or in some cases, settle. Even when the accused is convicted, they STILL hear the same skeptics and non-believers shit on them anyway. It's just too overwhelming and no one can be blamed for having to go through that.

Excellent main event. This was the best Dynamite episode in ages

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The lawn dart Mysterio spot!

This match has been outstanding so far