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Whatever it is, we should be clear going forward where each promotion's guys go before the next person quits. It will save on the arguing when two or three people want guys from a territory and have even a semi-valid claim.

Montreal I only have one touring day per week. I don't figure on making a ton of money on touring shows given the fact that Montreal is the only real big city in the province. Anything else even close is really, really close by except for Saguenay, which I am not running in winter or fall and every second loop in spring/summer. I have a couple of guys who are actually bigger names in Halifax than they are in Montreal, something that was done on purpose. They will be running those shows a lot and in a bigger role than in Montreal.

Why don't we just let things stay the way they are with Portland going over to Matt in August if they are still unclaimed? I would guess Matt intends to honor the deal with Toronto as far as sharing, but if he isn't that's in August. Just play it like nothing has changed because in the long run it's going to still be an occupied territory.

House Show, July 9th, Paul Suave Arena (2800) Louis Laurence/Tony Ricco defeated Bobby and Rudy Kay when Laurence submitted Rudy Kay with a half crab at 6:11. Armand Rougeau defeated Tim Gerrard with a sleeper at 5:31 Dave Kochen defeated Dan Johnson with an abdominal stretch at 7:44 Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Tonga John defeated Phil Lafon, Jim Brunzell and Tony Parisi when Tonga John hit a running big boot on Lafon at 16:08 Gino Brito and King Tonga went to a double count-out at 18:56

Yeah, I've never seen Hansen in the States as a face. I think it would be a lot of fun to watch after a few of his tags against the MVCs in the early 90s. Hansen as FIP and a world-beater to close a match are two roles he excels in.

Whoa, a semi-serious midget match, Bundy inducing blood vomiting in Dick the Bruiser AND a finish in the time remaining main event? That's a good TV show right there.

Hansen and Orndorff as babyfaces seems really odd, but that's probably due to a significant lack of that sort of usage of them in the real world. I would love to see Hansen as the avenging babyface start lariating the crap out of whatever heels/managers/seconds got in his way at the end of a big match. Jake has been great so far. Getting a babyface over big has a lot to do with the heel he's up against and I could see Butch Reed being ready to challenge for the NWA title after a feud with Jake. The Shadow Riders are wrestlers I'm not familiar with, but I may have to look them up. I'm glad to see the Rougeaus got a warm welcome in Georgia and also love the Flair/Martel stuff going on. Seems to me like that should be what we talk about as far as when and where once Flair is champ again.

I had thought about putting time stamps on my show like I did on my booking too, but went the other direction. Still not sure as to a finalized format for my TV, but I like what I've read from other people more than mine so far. It'll likely be an amalgam when all is said and done. I enjoyed Piper as the prickish babyface as well as the Sullivan/Army stuff. Hennig looks to be a guy to watch.

Killer Khan as an evil bodyguard is all kinds of awesome on it's own. The fact that he's Tully's bodyguard makes it even better. Tully can be as much of a little shit as he wants because who is gonna get past Khan long enough to do much to him?

I say we leave it until the second week of August. If it is open at that point Matt is free to take it. If somebody steps up in the meantime that works fine too.

How long before Backlund is appearing full-time in Central States?

Worst would equal useless as far as a fan is concerned. If it's a show devoid of good matches what use is it to you as a fan?

International Wrestling 7/8/83 (taped 7/6/83 in the Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec) Opening/1st match (0:00 - 10:00) The show opens with a montage of the Rougeaus, Brito/Parisi, Armand Rougeau, Gilles Poisson, Mad Dog Lefebvre, Louis Laurence and Richard Charland followed by the International Wrestling Association logo before cutting to Jacques Rougeau, Sr. in the ring. Jacques, Sr.: Welcome fans to International Wrestling on Friday Night. We have a great show for you tonight that features some of the new faces you'll be seeing plenty of over the next few months- Rougeau is cut off by a very loud round of boos from the fans and turns to the entranceway. Captain Lou Albano, Tonga John (in plain short tights with no boots or pads) and King Tonga (in loos long pants with no boots or pads) come to the ring with a few pieces of garbage thrown their way. Rougeau waits patiently for the trio to enter the ring before addressing Albano. Jacques, Sr.: It doesn't seem like the fans here in the Paul Suave Arena are very happy to see you and your charges, Mr. Albano. Albano: Good for them. Let me tell you a story, Rougeau. I came in here and the first two people I met were two poor Tongan wrestlers who had been denied a chance to prove themselves by Frank Valois and his goons for no good rea- Jacques, Sr.:They beat up a man for no- Albano snatches the microphone from Rougeau. Albano: These two men have beat up a lot of people, Rougeau. And if you interrupt me again they are gonna add one more to that number. These men deserved a chance at those titles and now they feel wronged. These men, no, not men. These are monsters. It didn't have to be this way, but nothing can change that now. These monsters are going to show you, Frank Valois, the fans and the other wrestlers that they will not be denied a chance at gold. The man who is responsible for this is not here tonight and that's a shame. Now everyone has to pay. Every action has consequences and Frank Valois will see tonight the consequences of his actions last Saturday. Bobby and Rudy Kay emerge from the back as Albano exits the ring and the Tongan wrestlers proceed to attack them before they even start entering the ring. King Tonga/Tonga John against Bobby & Rudy Kay The Tongan wrestlers dominate this from the start to finish, King Tonga showing off his kicks and headbutts before Bobby Kay walks into a savate kick from King Tonga. Tonga John climbs the top rope and hits a diving headbutt to put Kay away. The Tongans continue the assault, clubbering and stomping both of their fallen foes until the commercial break. King Tonga/Tonga John by pinfall with a combination savate kick/diving headbutt 4:19 Commercial Break (10:00 - 20:00) The Tongan wrestlers are being dragged from ringside by several security officers, referees and wrestlers from the back. They make several attempts to get back to the ring only to be driven back by superior numbers. Randy Rose makes his way to the ring to loud boos. Tim Gerrard gets little to no reaction, but some of the crowd seem to want to cheer him. Randy Rose vs. Tim Gerrard Rose dominated from the get-go, but Gerrard got in a quick comeback before Rose hit a side suplex after several punches. Rose locked in a crab, but the plucky Gerrard made the ropes. Rose had enough and picked Gerrard up before climbing to the second turnbuckle and hitting a powerslam for the win. Rose over Gerrard by pinfall with a second rope powerslam at 5:48 Rose was out of the ring quickly following his victory, leaving only the battered Gerrard to get beaten by King Tonga and Tonga John as they crashed the ring, Albano pointing at the downed Gerrard. Gerrards brother and tag partner Alex came out for the save but is immediately overwhelmed. The scene going to commercial break #2 is very similar to the first. Commercial Break (20:00 - 36:30) The Tongans were once again being herded to the back with no sign of Albano. The camera cuts to Albano in the back with a microphone in the backstage interview area. Albano: I told you these men are monsters. Not just monsters, terrors! Nobody in the arena is safe! The scuffle of King Tonga and Tonga John being escorted to the back breaks into the shot. Albano says a few words to his wrestlers and they stop fighting to get back to the ring. The assorted personnel wrestling the Tongans away from the ring warily back away before returning to whatever they were doing. Albano: Frank Valois will regret the day he decided to leave my terrors out of the tag tournament. I give to you, ladies and gentlemen, the future Canadian International Tag Team champs, the Tongan Terrors! You will be afraid of them, I can guarantee you that. These monsters are large, strong, agile, ANGRY men who want nothing more than what they deserve. They will get it. The camera cuts back to the ring after Albano and the newly named Tongan Terrors walk away. All three Rougeau brothers walk to the ring to massive cheers from the crowd. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Richard Charland emerge as their opponents to boos. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers & Armand Rougeau vs. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson & Richard Charland The Rougeaus were able to dominate the early going much to the crowd's delight. Poisson used a handful of Armand Rougeau's hair off of a rope break to bludgeon the least experienced Rougeau with a few big forearms. The heels worked Armand over until he fired up and overcame Charland with rapid fire right hands. Raymond took the hot tag and cleaned house before getting in an intense brawl with Lefebvre. The Rugeaus looked ready to put the match away when the Tongan terrors again hit the ring, Albano pointing out Armand Rougeau and Charland as targets. This time they were driven back after the initial surprise as all six men in the ring banded together to clear them out. No Contest due to interference at 12:25 Commercial Break with Upcoming Show Advertisements July 9th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal Quebec Gino Brito against King Tonga Phil Lafon, Jim Brunzell and Tony Parisi against Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Tonga John Armand Rougeau will be in action! July 12th at Gatineau, Quebec The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers & Armand Rougeau against The Midnight Express & Mad Dog Lefebvre Rene Goulet against Tonga John July 13th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec The Midnight Express and Dan Johnson against Gino Brito, Tony Parisi and Louis Laurence The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers against Phil Lafon and Jim Brunzell Armand Rougeau against Mad Dog Lefebvre (36:30 - 57:00) Albano and the Tongan Terrors are in the interview area in back when we return from break. Albano: You can't say I didn't warn you. I told you everyone was gonna pay and they have. I also told you that these guys are monsters and they are. Not only that, they are MY monsters. When I tell them to destroy someone, they do it. When I tell them to stop, they stop. That means you won't be seeing a whole lot out of anyone besides my monsters, because I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. You may as well get used to this fans, because I can guarantee you'll be seeing a lot of it. Jim Brunzell is not here tonight, but I can be patient when I need to be. Next week we get our hands on Brunzell and he pays very personally for what he did! Dennis Condrey comes to the ring greeted by heavy boos from the fans. Gino Brito gets a really big pop and the crowd is buzzing for the main event. Dennis Condrey vs. Gino Brito The match started out with Brito working over an arm and Condrey coming back with a mixture of brawling and headlocks and chinlocks. Brito started brawling as well, uncorking big right hands. Condrey came back with more brawling, but Brito will not to be denied. Brito gets a few nearfalls before Condrey ducks a right hand and hits a back elbow that staggers Brito into the corner. Right hands by Condrey leave Brito in bad shape and Condrey drapes him over the middle rope, bounces off the far ropes and sits down across his upper back. A clothesline in the center of the ring by Condrey sets him up for a big running leg drop that nearly put Brito away. The crowd give Brito and Condrey plenty of notice that the Tongan Terrors were coming and Condrey bailed. Brito iss waiting on the Tongans to attack when Condrey slides into the ring from behind and nails him with a few forearms to the back before hitting a full nelson facebuster. Condrey again bailed and left ringside as Albano signals to the Terrors it was time to attack. The Tongans go to work on Brito, which brings out his tag partner Tony Parisi. Parisi has some success, but it is short lived as King Tonga caught him with a savate kick while he was focused on Tonga John. The Tongans continue their assault while the fans throw garbage into the ring at them. The Rougeaus sprint down to ringside and chase the Tongans off to end the show. Gino Brito wins by DQ when the Tongan terrors interfere at 17:22 Dark Matches: pre-show Tony Ricco vs. Simon Dupree was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both. Louis Laurence vs. Dan Johnson was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both.

I doubt it would have much to do with Rusev and Lana understanding history as much as how perceptive they are. You can have super smart people who don't understand a bit when it comes to personal interactions and what they mean and the other way around.

Yeah I don't have that kind of problem. It's yet another fun little difference we will all have on our shows. Really the point of all of this is seeing how people present things and the differences between real life and what we do as well as the differences between the promotions in our timeline.

Here's an exercise for anyone who has access to a certain website. There is a tag match between the MVC and Kawada/Taue on 7/26/93. Then there is a six minutes out of the 8:30 6 man sprint from two days later immediately following that tag match. You tell me which is more entertaining. I know it's newly formed 1993 Kawada/Taue, but the fact that an eight minute six man is far easier to watch says a lot.

I absolutely loved this match. Fuchi should be remembered as a superworker and this match is a part of that resume. 1991 to mid 1993 Fuchi was ridiculous kinds of good at being a cranky old bastard who tied the kids into knots. Honestly I think he should be required watching for any wrestler past the age of thirty. So simple, yet so effective. Kawada vs. Misawa was off the charts awesome and better than the 1995 match where Kawada chokes Misawa out and gets his due. This match being so unknown seems criminal.

I'd have it written but I can't copy and paste. I tend to work from a rough outline.

I happen to come down on the side of GOTNW here, but I feel like we need to tone the tempers down. It's an argument on an internet message board fellas. I have that criticism of a lot of modern wrestling really. There is a distinct lack of meaningful transitions and more emphasis on getting in as much big stuff as possible during the finishing stretch. I won't try to stop anyone from enjoying something like Owens/Balor, but it's not my cup of tea.

My TV taping is today but I'll do a full write-up on the 8th when it would air.

I am liking NXT less and less and I can see myself unsubscribing to the Network after I hit all the stuff I want to. If Mania next year has the lineup I expect instead of Reigns vs. Lesnar 2 and NXT continues to go downhill I'm not sure it takes a long, long time. I'd miss the Becky Lynch and Sasha stuff as well as the Vaudevillains, Itami when he returns and Breeze, but I am finding more and more that modern wrestling goes away from a lot of the things I value in wrestling. NWA Classics seems a lot more up my alley in terms of the wrestling they have available, especially if they start putting together full cards and footage from feuds that my not have been available before.

Same. From what little I've seen of both Rose and Condrey they are impressive.

The match where he teams with Shinzaki against the Holy Demon Army is pretty boss too. 'Busa's big spots and Shinzaki's rope-walking chop are made into monster spots by the build.

Hara in late 80s All Japan was a discovery and a half for me. I felt like he had some of the major aspects of what would become All Japan style long before anyone else did. Tenryu seemed to come alive once Hara started teaming with him.

No reason it has to happen exactly the same way that it did. And who's to say Flair won't lose the belt in a year or sooner? There are all kinds of possibilities.