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I think his work got a lot tighter after coming back in late '07. Plenty of vicious strikes in the Jericho feud.

Parv, I probably shouldn't have thrown out such an off the cuff statement without a bit of explanation, sorry about that. Listening to your gripes against Backlund, and Johnny's argument that he was following orders from the back, reminded me a great deal of much Cena debate since about 2008 or so. Many of the comments here have addressed all the problems I have with Cena. It's mainly the shrugging off all the previous selling to go into a very familiar finishing routine. And the refusal to sell any serious repercussions the following night.

Parv, if super no-sell Backlund is annoying you, you might want to steer clear of Cena......

Alan, any chance you could put together a quick narrative on RoH match quality from 2009-14? My basic understanding is solid until 2011, then bit of a dip in 2012 and resurrection this year. Is that generalisation anywhere close?

Agreed. Aces and eights were dead in the water about 8 months before they finished up in autumn 2013 if not for him. Liked his work throughout that year with Hardy, Sabin, Styles and Anderson.

This is a great post. You know that phrase you sometimes hear, "He's so overrated, he's underrated"? Cena is the opposite. He's so underrated by people who hate him, that he ends up getting too much praise from people who like him, and now he's overrated. I am by no means a Cena hater. He's a nice little WWE style wrestler with a nice resume of really good matches, and few really great ones. What I find odd about this thread & the general love for Cena around here, is that Cena is bad at things that many who praise him on this site value strongly (bad punches & strikes, awful looking low impact offense), and does things that routinely get ripped when it comes to other wrestlers (finisher spamming, endless finisher kickouts, video game closing stretches, etc). It seems Cena gets a pass for this stuff from some people. I like Cena. I usually like his matches, but he's also a guy who has a file folder full of absolute shit, the likes of which true all time greats do not. He's a guy who has great matches with high level workers and when he has great chemistry with somebody (CM Punk instantly comes to mind, as does Bryan), but he's also a guy who has trouble carrying bad opponents (the awful Bray Wyatt matches until the gimmick match with the shortcuts...I think LMS at Payback, which was great). He has mediocre matches against mediocre opponents (The Rock, Randy Orton, Big Show). Cena is basically the poster child for working to the level of your opponent. If this were any other site on the internet, i'd be defending him because he'd likely be unfairly ripped by just about everybody. Here he gets the respect he deserves as a worker, but I think we need to pump the brakes a bit and be fair about the flaws. He didn't make my Top 100 five years ago. He'd probably make it now, somewhere in the 80-100 range. The weird thing, is he'd probably be the only guy on my list with tons of matches I don't like very much. But the high end stuff can not be ignored, and with the amount of televised stuff he has (maybe more than anybody), he's bound to have some stinkers. Agree 100% Joe. I also find myself moderating my response to Cena based on how much love/hate he inspires on different sites.

Similar to TNA, I think Ring of Honor might be worthy of closer inspection. I've watched a lot from 2002-09 but fell off the RoH wagon thereafter. I'd love to hear some recommendations from the last 5 years or so.... As a starting point for discussion, here's a Top 100 matches, as of mid 2012, from ROHWorld Forums - 1. Blood Generation (CIMA, Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino) vs. Do Fixer (Dragon Kid, Genki Horiguchi & Ryo Saito) (Supercard of Honor 3.31.2006) 4.88 (26 votes) 2. Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA (Glory by Honor V, Night 2 9.16.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.87 (34 votes) 3. Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness (Unified 8.12.2006 – ROH World Title vs. ROH Pure Title Unification Match) 4.85 (35 votes) 4. KENTA vs. Low Ki (Final Battle 2005 12.17.2005 – GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title Match) 4.81 (31 votes) 5. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (Joe vs. Punk II 10.16.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.79 (34 votes) 6. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong (Vendetta 11.5.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.75 (41 votes) 7. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (Driven 6.23.2007) 4.75 (20 votes) 8. Samoa Joe vs. Bryan Danielson (Midnight Express Reunion 10.2.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.72 (17 votes) 9. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico (Final Battle 2010 12.18.2010 – Fight Without Honor/ROH Career vs. Mask Match) 4.71 (22 votes) 10. Samoa Joe vs. Kenta Kobashi (Joe vs. Kobashi 10.1.2005) 4.70 (46 votes) 11. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. Jay and Mark Briscoe (Unified 8.12.2006 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.70 (32 votes) 12. Austin Aries vs. CM Punk (Death Before Dishonor III 6.18.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.67 (14 votes) 13. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (All Star Extravaganza II 12.4.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.62 (29 votes) 14. Jimmy Jacobs vs. BJ Whitmer (Supercard of Honor II 3.31.2007 – Cage Match) 4.62 (27 votes) 15. Tyler Black vs. Davey Richards (Death Before Dishonor VIII 6.19.2010 – ROH World Title Match) 4.61 (36 votes) 16. Low Ki vs. The American Dragon (Round Robin Challenge 3.30.2002) 4.61 (20 votes) 17. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (Rising Above 12.29.2007 – ROH World Title Match) 4.59 (29 votes) 18. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong (This Means War 10.29.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.59 (11 votes) 19. The American Wolves vs. Bryan Danielson & Tyler Black (Tag Title Classic 4.18.2009 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.58 (27 votes) 20. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide vs. Bryan Danielson vs. Colt Cabana vs. Austin Aries vs. Mark Briscoe (Survival of the Fittest 2004 6.24.2004 – Survival of the Fittest Match) 4.57 (19 votes) 21. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Man Up 9.15.2007 – Ladder War for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.56 (24 votes) 22. Generation Next (Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Matt Sydal & Jack Evans) vs. The Embassy (Jimmy Rave, Alex Shelley, Abyss & Prince Nana) (Steel Cage Warfare 12.3.2005 – Steel Cage Warfare Elimination Match) 4.56 (15 votes) 23. Low Ki vs. AJ Styles vs. Paul London (One Year Anniversary Show 2.8.2003 – Triple Threat Match for the #1 Contender’s Trophy) 4.54 (18 votes) 24. Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA (Driven 6.23.2007) 4.53 (19 votes) 25. Bryan Danielson vs. Davey Richards (The Final Countdown Tour: Boston 9.25.2009) 4.52 (28 votes) 26. AJ Styles vs. Paul London (Night of the Grudges 6.14.2003 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.52 (23 votes) 27. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. CM Punk & Colt Cabana (ROH Reborn: Stage 2 4.24.2004 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.52 (12 votes) 28. Samoa Joe vs. Austin Aries (Final Battle 2004 12.26.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.51 (27 votes) 29. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. The Motor City Machine Guns (Good Times, Great Memories 4.28.2007 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.51 (14 votes) 30. Takeshi Morishima vs. Bryan Danielson (Manhattan Mayhem II 8.25.2007 – ROH World Title Match) 4.50 (30 votes) 31. Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe (Fight of the Century 8.5.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.50 (12 votes) 32. Kenta Kobashi & Homicide vs. Samoa Joe & Low Ki (Unforgettable 10.2.2005) 4.50 (10 votes) 33. Davey Richards vs. Christopher Daniels (Richards vs. Daniels 10.16.2010) 4.48 (32 votes) 34. Steve Corino vs. Homicide (Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 8.16.2003) 4.48 (10 votes) 35. Eddie Edwards vs. Davey Richards (Best in the World 2011 6.26.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.47 (25 votes) 36. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong (Supercard of Honor 3.31.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.47 (11 votes) 37. Low Ki vs. Christopher Daniels vs. The American Dragon (The Era of Honor Begins 2.23.2002) 4.46 (19 votes) 38. Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima (Final Battle 2008 12.27.2008 – Fight Without Honor) 4.46 (15 votes) 39. Eddie Edwards vs. Chris Hero (Revolution: Canada 5.7.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.46 (14 votes) 40. Roderick Strong vs. Davey Richards (Final Battle 2010 12.18.2010 – ROH World Title Match) 4.44 (21 votes) 41. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (World Title Classic 6.12.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.43 (16 votes) 42. The Kings of Wrestling vs. The American Wolves (Tag Title Classic 2 12.17.2010 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.43 (12 votes) 43. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. KENTA & Davey Richards (Honor Reclaims Boston 11.3.2006) 4.43 (11 votes) 44. Team ROH (Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, BJ Whitmer, Adam Pearce & Ace Steel) vs. Team CZW (Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Necro Butcher, Nate Webb & Eddie Kingston) (Death Before Dishonor IV 7.15.2006 – Cage of Death Match) 4.42 (31 votes) 45. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Death Before Dishonor V, Night 1 8.10.2007 – Street Fight) 4.42 (30 votes) 46. KENTA vs. Davey Richards (Supercard of Honor IV 4.3.2009 – GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title Match 4.42 (23 votes) 47. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (Rising Above 11.22.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.41 (27 votes) 48. Bryan Danielson vs. Homicide (Final Battle 2006 12.23.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.40 (15 votes) 49. Paul London vs. Bryan Danielson (The Epic Encounter 4.12.2003 – 2 out of 3 Falls Match) 4.40 (15 votes) 50. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. The Kings of Wrestling (The Big Bang 4.3.2010 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.39 (32 votes) 51. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (6th Anniversary Show 2.23.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.39 (30 votes) 52. Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries (Testing the Limit 8.7.2004 – 2 out of 3 Falls Match) 4.38 (22 votes) 53. Generation Next (Alex Shelley, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong & Jack Evans) vs. Jay and Mark Briscoe, John Walters & Jimmy Rave (Generation Next 5.22.2004) 4.37 (18 votes) 54. Jay Briscoe vs. Mark Briscoe (Fifth Year Festival: Finale 3.4.2007) 4.37 (10 votes) 55. The American Wolves vs. Adam Cole & Kyle O’Reilly (No Escape 7.9.2011) 4.36 (15 votes) 56. Nigel McGuinness vs. KENTA (7th Anniversary Show 3.21.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.34 (29 votes) 57. The Kings of Wrestling vs. The Motor City Machine Guns (Supercard of Honor V 5.8.2010 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.34 (29 votes) 58. Tyler Black vs. Davey Richards (Tag Wars 2010 8.28.2010) 4.32 (14 votes) 59. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide (Do or Die 5.31.2003 – ROH World Title Match) 4.32 (10 votes) 60. Davey Richards vs. Kenny Omega (Epic Encounter III 3.20.2010) 4.31 (24 votes) 61. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Tyler Black (Death Before Dishonor VI 8.2.2008 – Elimination Match for the ROH World Title) 4.31 (15 votes) 62. Naomichi Marufuji vs. Nigel McGuinness (Glory by Honor V, Night 2 9.16.2006 – GHC Heavyweight Title Match) 4.30 (17 votes) 63. Low Ki vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Spanky vs. Doug Williams (Crowning a Champion 7.27.2002 – 60 Minute Iron Man Match for the ROH Championship) 4.30 (10 votes) 64. The Kings of Wrestling vs. Jay and Mark Briscoe (Death Before Dishonor VIII 6.19.2010 – No DQ Match for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.29 (36 votes) 65. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. El Generico & Colt Cabana (Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 2 4.24.2010 – Come-As-You-Are Street Fight) 4.29 (29 votes) 66. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (Supercard of Honor III 3.29.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.29 (21 votes) 67. Homicide vs. Steve Corino (War of the Wire 11.29.2003 – No-Ropes Barbed Wire Match) 4.29 (11 votes) 68. Eddie Edwards vs. Roderick Strong (Death Before Dishonor IX 9.17.2011 – Ringmaster’s Challenge Match) 4.28 (13 votes) 69. Nigel McGuinness vs. Kevin Steen (Northern Navigation 7.25.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.27 (26 votes) 70. Paul London vs. Michael Shane (Unscripted 9.21.2002 – Street Fight) 4.27 (24 votes) 71. Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards (Manhattan Mayhem IV 3.19.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.27 (21 votes) 72. Team ROH (Samoa Joe, BJ Whitmer & Adam Pearce) vs. Team CZW (Chris Hero, Necro Butcher & Super Dragon) (The 100th Show 4.22.2006) 4.27 (12 votes) 73. Kota Ibushi & KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji & Katsuhiko Nakajima (The Tokyo Summit 9.14.2008) 4.26 (19 votes) 74. Tyler Black vs. Kevin Steen (Salvation 7.24.2010 – ROH World Title Match) 4.26 (14 votes) 75. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoe (At Our Best 3.13.2004 – Cage Match for the ROH World Title) 4.22 (23 votes) 76. Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe vs. KENTA & Naomichi Marufuji (Best in the World 3.25.2006) 4.22 (12 votes) 77. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong (Escape from New York 7.9.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.20 (15 votes) 78. AJ Styles vs. Bryan Danielson (Main Event Spectacles 11.1.2003 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.18 (27 votes) 79. The American Dragon vs. AJ Styles (All-Star Extravaganza 11.9.2002 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.18 (12 votes) 80. Samoa Joe vs. Takeshi Morishima (Fifth Year Festival: NYC 2.16.2007) 4.16 (12 votes) 81. CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Death Before Dishonor II, Part 2 7.24.2004 – Chicago Street Fight) 4.15 (13 votes) 82. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Austin Aries & Kota Ibushi (Tag Wars 2008 4.18.2008) 4.14 (14 votes) 83. Low Ki vs. Samoa Joe (Glory by Honor 10.5.2002 – Fight Without Honor) 4.10 (23 votes) 84. The American Wolves vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Glory by Honor VIII 9.26.2009 – Ladder War II for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.10 (19 votes) 85. Austin Aries vs. Kenny Omega (The Omega Effect 11.14.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.10 (14 votes) 86. The Motor City Machine Guns vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (Tag Wars 2008 4.18.2008) 4.08 (21 votes) 87. Roderick Strong vs. El Generico (Pick Your Poison 4.23.2010) 4.08 (21 votes) 88. Nigel McGuinness vs. Jerry Lynn (Supercard of Honor IV 4.3.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.06 (23 votes) 89. Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards (Aries vs. Richards 11.13.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.05 (28 votes) 90. Christopher Daniels vs. Eddie Edwards (9th Anniversary Show 2.26.2011 – 2 out of 3 Falls Match for the ROH Television Title) 4.03 (16 votes) 91. Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles (Road to the Title 6.22.2002) 4.02 (10 votes) 92. Davey Richards vs. El Generico (8th Anniversary Show 2.13.2010) 4.00 (24 votes) 93. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. KENTA (Glory by Honor VI, Night 2 11.3.2007 – GHC Heavyweight Title Match) 4.00 (21 votes) 94. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The American Wolves (7th Anniversary Show 3.21.2009 – No DQ Match for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.00 (10 votes) 95. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico (Death Before Dishonor VIII 6.19.2010) 3.98 (37 votes) 96. Jay Briscoe vs. Mark Briscoe (Honor Invades Boston 8.24.2002) 3.97 (12 votes) 97. Xavier vs. John Walters (Final Battle 2003 12.27.2003 – Fight Without Honor) 3.92 (16 votes) 98. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The Motor City Machine Guns (Death Before Dishonor VI 8.2.2008) 3.91 (15 votes) 99. CM Punk vs. Raven (Death Before Dishonor 7.19.2003 – Dog Collar Match) 3.90 (11 votes) 100. Low Ki vs. AJ Styles (A Night of Appreciation 4.27.2002) 3.89 (17 votes)

'Mid-South - Total novice. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Mid-South match in my life. I know it's awful' Actually, Mid-South's rather good....

Interesting about the timing issues with Bad Blood, because I remember hearing back then that HBK threw a hissy fit when him v Flair was cut shorter than originally intended. Coming so late in the card, and with only the last of the triathalon and main event to follow, you'd wonder why they decided to chop it?

There's another long forgotten name!

Don't worry Kelly - I was watching it Friday evening. The teeth, the voice, Cornette's impressions - it had to be him!

Enjoying these podcasts a great deal. Like Parv, I'm learning shitloads as I go...

This is a fabulous thread. Really good stuff lads.

This might get more eyeballs here... On Best of WWF Vol 20 - Just before Hogan v Rude, that's Kevin Dunn in the skit arguing with Sean Mooney over the 'party', isn't it?

Best of WWF Vol 20 - Just before Hogan v Rude, that's Kevin Dunn in the skit arguing with Sean Mooney over the 'party', isn't it?

No problem - just go after the guys you like. If you take a liking to 2012, a lot of the tv during late spring and summer into the Bound for Glory series is very good also.

2012 Genesis 2012 in Orlando, FL, January 8, 2012 James Storm vs. Kurt Angle TNA World Title Match: Bobby Roode vs. Jeff Hardy Against All Odds 2012 in Orlando, FL, February 12, 2012 TNA X-Division Title Match: Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley Victory Road 2012 in Orlando, FL, March 18, 2012 Bully Ray vs. James Storm TNA X-Division Title Match: Austin Aries vs. Zema Ion Christopher Daniels and Kazarian vs. AJ Styles and Mr. Anderson Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy Lockdown 2012 in Nashville, TN, April 15, 2012 (All matches inside a Steel Cage) Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy TNA World Title Match: Bobby Roode vs. James Storm Sacrifice 2012 in Orlando, FL, May 13, 2012 TNA Tag Team Title Match: Samoa Joe and Magnus vs. Christopher Daniels and Kazarian Bully Ray vs. Austin Aries Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles TNA World Title, Ladder Match: Bobby Roode vs. Rob Van Dam Slammiversary X - 2012 in, June 10, 2012 TNA X-Division Title Match: Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe TNA Tag Team Title Match: Christopher Daniels and Kazarian vs. Kurrt Angle and AJ Styles- Destination X 2012 in Orlando, FL, July 8, 2012 Bound For Glory Series Match: Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle Last Man Standing Match: AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels TNA World Title Match: Bobby Roode vs. Austin Aries- New TNA Champion in Austin Aries. Hardcore Justice 2012 in Orlando, FL, August 12, 2012 Bound For Glory Series, Ladder Match: AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe TNA World Title Match: Austin Aries vs. Bobby Roode NA No Surrender 2012 in, September 9, 2012 Bound For Glory Series Semi-Finals Match: Jeff Hardy vs. Samoa Joe- Bound For Glory Series Semi-Finals Match: James Storm vs. Bully Ray TNA Tag Team Title Match: Christopher Daniels and Kazarian vs. Kurt Angle and AJ Styles Bound For Glory Series Finals Match: Jeff Hardy vs. Bully Ray- TNA Bound For Glory 2012 in Phoenix, AZ, October 14, 2012 TNA TV. Title Match: Samoa Joe vs. Magnus TNA Tag Team Title Match: Kazarian and Christopher Daniels vs. Hernandez and Chavo Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle and AJ Styles No DQ Match: Sting and Bully Ray vs. The Aces and Eights TNA World Title Match: Austin Aries vs. Jeff Hardy TNA Turning Point 2012 in, November 11, 2012 TNA TV. Title, No DQ Match: Samoa Joe vs. Magnus TNA Tag Team Title Match: Chavo Guerrero and Hernandez vs. Christopher Daniels and Kazarian Bobby Roode vs. James Storm vs. AJ Styles TNA World Title, Ladder Match: Jeff Hardy vs. Austin Aries Final Resolution 2012 in, December 9, 2012 Austin Aries vs. Bully Ray Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles TNA World Title Match: Jeff Hardy vs. Bobby Roode

I wasn't paying a great deal of attention to TNA from the middle of 2009 until the start of 2012. I'll pick up from there later. Anyone else is welcome to fill the blanks.... 2008 Final Resolution 2008...Date (January 6) TNA Women’s Knockout No DQ Title Match- Gail Kim Vs. Awesome Kong TNA World Title Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Christian Cage Against All Odds 2008...Date (February 10) TNA World Title Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Christian Cage Lockdown 2008...Date (April 13) - (All matches inside six sides of steel) TNA World Title Match- Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe Slammiversary 2008...Date (June 8) Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles TNA World Title King Of The Mountain Ladder Match- Samoa Joe vs. Rhino vs. Robert Roode vs. Christian Cage vs. Booker T Victory Road 2008…Date (July 13) Full Metal Mayhem- Team 3D & Kurt Angle vs. Rhino, Christian Cage & AJ Styles Hard Justice 2008...Date (August 10) Last Man Standing Match- Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles No Surrender 2008…Date (September 14) TNA World Title Match- Samoa Joe vs. Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle Bound For Glory IV 2008…Date (October 12) TNA Tag Team Title Monster’s Ball Match- Beer Money Inc. vs. Abyss and “The Blueprint” Matt Morgan vs. Team 3D vs. LAX Kurt Angle v Jeff Jarrett TNA World Title Match- Samoa Joe vs. Sting Turning Point 2008…Date (November 9) TNA Tag Team Title Match- Beer Money Inc. vs. MCMG Falls Count Anywhere Match- Kurt Angle vs. Abyss Kevin Nash vs. Samoa Joe TNA World Title Match- Sting vs. AJ Styles Final Resolution 2008…Date (December 7) TNA World Title Match- The Main Event Mafia: Sting, Booker T, Scott Steiner and Kevin Nash vs. The Front Line: AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Team 3D

2007 Final Resolution 2007...Date (January 14) Last Man Standing Match- AJ Styles Vs. Rhino 30 Minute Iron Man Match- Samoa Joe Vs. Kurt Angle Against All Odds 2007...Date (February 11) Motor City Chain Match- AJ Styles Vs. Rhino NWA World Title Match- Christian Cage Vs. Kurt Angle Destination X 2007...Date (March 11) NWA World Title Match- Christian Cage Vs. Samoa Joe - Cage Retains. Lockdown 2007...Date (April 15) - (All matches inside six sides of steel) Lethal Lockdown Match- Team Cage: Christian Cage, AJ Styles, Abyss, Scott Steiner & Tomko Vs. Team Angle: Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, Rhino, Sting & Jeff Jarrett Sacrifice 2007...Date (May 13) NWATNA X Division Title Match- Chris Sabin Vs. Jay Lethal Vs. Sonjay Dutt - Sabin retains again Robert Roode Vs. Jeff Jarrett Texas Death Match- James Storm Vs. Chris Harris Tiger Mask Vs. Alex Shelley Vs. Senshi Vs. Jerry Lynn AJ Styles Vs. Samoa Joe - NWA World Title Match- Christian Cage Vs. Kurt Angle Vs. Sting Slammiversary 2007...Date (June 17) LAX Vs. Rhino & Senshi TNA World Title King Of The Mountain Ladder Match- Chris Harris Vs. AJ Styles Vs. Samoa Joe Vs. Christian Cage Vs. Kurt Angle - Kurt Angle is the new TNA World Champion as he wins the vacant title Hard Justice 2007…Date (August 12) Jay Lethal & Sonjay Dutt Vs. Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley Vs. Triple X Bar Room Brawl- James Storm Vs. Rhino Winner Takes All Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Samoa Joe No Surrender 2007...Date (September 9) James Storm Vs. Rhino TNA X Division Title Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Jay Lethal Tag Team Gauntlet Match Christian Cage Vs. Samoa Joe TNA World Title Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Abyss Bound For Glory 2007...Date (October 14) Ultimate X Tag Team Match- Triple X Vs. LAX – LAX wins to become the number one contender for the TNA Tag Titles. TNA Tag Team Title Match- Team Pacman Vs. AJ Styles & Tomko 2 Out Of 3 Tables Match- Steiner Brothers Vs. Team 3D Christian Cage Vs. Samoa Joe TNA World Title Match- Kurt Angle Vs. Sting Genesis 2007...Date (November 11) MCMG Vs. Team 3D Fight For The Right Ladder Match- Christian Cage Vs. Kaz Turning Point 2007...Date (December 2) TNA Women’s Knockout Title Match- Gail Kim Vs. Awesome Kong

I'm going to go from 2005-present, Matt.. 2006 Final Resolution 2006...Date (January 15) NWATNA X Division Title Match- Samoa Joe Vs. Christopher Daniels Against All Odds 2006...Date (February 12) Falls Count Anywhere Match- Rhino Vs. Abyss NWATNA X Division Title Match- Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Destination X 2006...Date (March 12) Jay Lethal Vs. Alex Shelley International X Showcase Match- Petey Willams Vs. Chris Sabin Vs. Sonjay Dutt Vs. Puma Rhino, Team 3D & The Truth Vs. Jeff Jarrett, America's Most Wanted & Abyss NWATNA X Division Title Ultimate X Match- Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Lockdown 2006...Date (April 23)...(All matches inside six sides of steel) World X Cup Preview- Team Japan Vs. Team USA Senshi Vs. Christopher Daniels NWATNA X Division Title Match- Samoa Joe Vs. Sabu Sacrifice 2006...Date (May 14) NWA Tag Team Title Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels Sting & Samoa Joe Vs. Jeff Jarrett & Scott Steiner NWA World Title Full Metal Mayhem Match- Christian Cage Vs. Abyss - This was an TLC & C (Tables, Ladders, Chairs & Chains) match. Slammiversary 2006...Date (June 18) Handicap Match- Rhino Vs. Bobby Roode & Coach D'Amore X Division Ranking Match- Alex Shelley Vs. Senshi Vs. Shark Boy Vs. Jay Lethal Vs. Sonjay Dutt Vs. Petey Williams NWA Tag Team Title Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels Samoa Joe Vs. Scott Steiner Victory Road 2006...Date (July 16) NWA Tag Team Title Match- AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels Vs. America's Most Wanted Hard Justice 2006...Date (August 13) Falls Count Anywhere Match- Samoa Joe Vs. Rhino Vs. Monty Brown NWATNA X Division Title Match- Senshi Vs. Petey Williams Vs. Jay Lethal No Surrender 2006...Date (September 24) NWA Tag Team Title Ultimate X Match- LAX Vs. AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels Bound For Glory 2006...Date (October 22) Monsters Ball Match- Samoa Joe Vs. Abyss Vs. Raven Vs. Brother Runt NWATNA X Division Title Match- Senshi Vs. Chris Sabin 8 Mile Street Fight- Rhino Vs. Christian Cage NWA Tag Team Title Six Sides Of Steel Cage Match- AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels Vs. LAX - NWA World Title Vs. Career Match- Jeff Jarrett Vs. Sting Genesis 2006...Date (November 19 AJ Styles Vs. Christian Cage Kurt Angle Vs. Samoa Joe - Turning Point 2006...Date (December 10) NWA World Title Match- Abyss Vs. Christian Cage Vs. Sting The Rematch- Kurt Angle Vs. Samoa Joe

Ok, this is going totally from memory - with very little rewatching since - and here's PPV matches that jump out at me from 2005. Final Resolution 2005...Date (January 16) NWA Tag Team Title Match- Team Canada Vs. America's Most Wanted NWATNA X Division Title Ultimate X Match- Petey Williams Vs. Chris Sabin Vs. AJ Styles Against All Odds 2005...Date (February 13) NWA Tag Team Title Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. Kid Kash & Lance Hoyt NWATNA X Division Title 30-Minute Iron Man Match- AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Lockdown 2005...Date (April 24)...(All matches inside six sides of steel) America's Most Wanted Vs. Team Canada #1 Contender's Match- AJ Styles Vs. Abyss Hard Justice 2005...Date (May 15) NWA World Title Match- Jeff Jarrett Vs. AJ Styles Slammiversary 2005...Date (June 19) Samoa Joe Vs. Sonjay Dutt No Surrender 2005...Date (July 17) Samoa Joe Vs. Chris Sabin Team Canada Vs. The Naturals & Lance Hoyt AJ Styles Vs. Sean Waltman NWATNA X Division Title Match- Christopher Daniels Vs. Petey Williams NWA World Title Chain Dog Collar Match- Raven Vs. Abyss Sacrifice 2005...Date (August 14) Christopher Daniels Vs. Austin Aries Super X Cup Finals Match- Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Jeff Jarrett & Rhino Vs. Raven & Sabu Unbreakable 2005...Date (September 11) NWATNA X Division Match- Christopher Daniels Vs. Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Bound For Glory 2005...Date (October 23) NWATNA X Division Title 30-Minute Iron Man Match- AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Genesis 2005...Date (November 13) Elimination X Match- Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Roderick Strong & Alex Shelley Vs. Chris Sabin, Matt Bentley, Sonjay Dutt & Austin Aries NWATNA X Division Title Match- AJ Styles Vs. Petey Williams Jeff Jarrett & America's Most Wanted Vs. Rhino & Team 3D Turning Point 2005...Date (December 11) Double Tables Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. Team 3D NWATNA X Division Title Match- AJ Styles Vs. Samoa JoeFinal Resolution 2005...Date (January 16) NWA Tag Team Title Match- Team Canada Vs. America's Most Wanted NWATNA X Division Title Ultimate X Match- Petey Williams Vs. Chris Sabin Vs. AJ Styles Against All Odds 2005...Date (February 13) NWA Tag Team Title Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. Kid Kash & Lance Hoyt NWATNA X Division Title 30-Minute Iron Man Match- AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Lockdown 2005...Date (April 24)...(All matches inside six sides of steel) America's Most Wanted Vs. Team Canada #1 Contender's Match- AJ Styles Vs. Abyss Hard Justice 2005...Date (May 15) NWA World Title Match- Jeff Jarrett Vs. AJ Styles Slammiversary 2005...Date (June 19) Samoa Joe Vs. Sonjay Dutt No Surrender 2005...Date (July 17) Samoa Joe Vs. Chris Sabin Team Canada Vs. The Naturals & Lance Hoyt AJ Styles Vs. Sean Waltman NWATNA X Division Title Match- Christopher Daniels Vs. Petey Williams NWA World Title Chain Dog Collar Match- Raven Vs. Abyss Sacrifice 2005...Date (August 14) Christopher Daniels Vs. Austin Aries Super X Cup Finals Match- Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Jeff Jarrett & Rhino Vs. Raven & Sabu Unbreakable 2005...Date (September 11) NWATNA X Division Match- Christopher Daniels Vs. Samoa Joe Vs. AJ Styles Bound For Glory 2005...Date (October 23) NWATNA X Division Title 30-Minute Iron Man Match- AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Genesis 2005...Date (November 13) Elimination X Match- Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Roderick Strong & Alex Shelley Vs. Chris Sabin, Matt Bentley, Sonjay Dutt & Austin Aries NWATNA X Division Title Match- AJ Styles Vs. Petey Williams Jeff Jarrett & America's Most Wanted Vs. Rhino & Team 3D Turning Point 2005...Date (December 11) Double Tables Match- America's Most Wanted Vs. Team 3D NWATNA X Division Title Match- AJ Styles Vs. Samoa Joe

Nominate him. The reviews are in the 80's set folder.Their are more than 3 based on Strike Force vs. The Islanders matches. Where's the 80s set folder?

OK Bill I'll put something together soon.

Have you any more late 90s recommendations? I remember hearing somewhere that summer 96 v Kobashi was his last great match.....

I think I can understand where your coming from, Parv, but isn't this meant to be what you/me/every single other person considers the greatest wrestler list? It sounds a bit like you want to set out a standard list of matches as required viewing for yourself, rather than organically going toward what they like. I know you weren't being quite that draconian, but it could take the fun out of some of this if everything's laid in stone.