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I feel as though the critique of Johnny's reviews being too positive is one we've all heard a million times and is about as boring as having a show manned by 5 people all saying the same thing. Johnny works because he sounds different from anyone else on the show (both literally and content wise). I don't really understand wanting everyone on the reaction show having the same sort of opinions. Why even bother having that many people on the show at that point? On another topic stop Kris needs to stop referring to stuff he 'can't talk about' on the show. Will tries his best to keep listeners informed of the insider jokes that get made all the time, but when he doesn't get the reference and you won't explain it? Man, it just grinds the show to halt and wastes time.
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They would have to be so completely stupid to have Daniel Bryan in the thing at all much less book him to win it. So completely possible.
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JvK reviews pimped matches from late 90s-10s
Goodear replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
Honestly, I could totally see Matt liking One Punch Man. One Punch Man is the way and the light. -
I do as well, but they've shockingly (sarcasm) put themselves in a corner again where the possibility of him retaining is less interesting than 4 or 5 other options presented due to the sheer mass of other developments that could take place.
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I think where you are losing the narrative argument thread here Parv is that people are going to pick lots of people above guys who did 'work hard' but weren't great characters like Lance Storm or Brad Armstrong (just to chose examples that will be on the opposite end of the spectrum of a Don Muraco). Let's look more in depth at your 'Vader is better than Earthquake' point. Is he really better than Earthquake just because he worked harder? Or is looked at more fondly because he got the monster bad ass push where he crippled half the roster, felt no pain and feared no man? It's very hard to separate his hard work from the fact that his performances were usually on point from a character perspective as well. He did not do a whole lot that was not character appropriate and the stuff people would point as being 'off' would be contrary to working hard (moonsaults, bumping too much). One could argue that Vader really fell off because his aura got wrecked working with Flair and Hogan and he was never able to get that momentum back again. That was nothing to do with him working hard and more to do with his character not being able to withstand putting other people over,
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I don't know if Dory Jr being an anti-workrate guy makes any sort of sense as he seems very 'pure worker' to me with lots of mechanical work that is often critiqued for not having an emotional resonance. Granted, much like the Malenko example, some of Dory's best work is when that exterior cracks and he decides to up the ante by going after Abdullah the Butcher in Japan. The Iron Sheik is a very interesting case as well as his mechanics were actually solid with his throws being a highlight. But I don't think that is what makes him a star in wrestling so much as his character stuff that pushes him into relevance. It doesn't help his workrate case that we saw him disintegrate physically over decades of time so most people remember him as the lumbering Sheik who got by on being the character more than the worker. Workrate and character are separate spectrums that run parallel to each other. You can have both (Flair, Savage) or more of one than the other (Bret Hart, Hacksaw Duggan on opposite sides) and still be a success in the business. Some of us value one more than the other. It happens.
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I still break into "Oh you didn't know..." every now and then in the car. I found The Outlaws, X-Pac, Triple H as a face faction to be the most entertaining of the bunch. I thought they were good wrestling fun.
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If this doesn't result eventually in a Jericho heel turn based on what I said then I'll eat my hat. The same hat that has faced being eaten before and remains uneaten. Unfortunately, I don't think the hat ends up eaten this time around either. One of these days though... What's the time frame here Johnny? Are we talking by Mania?
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BRAINBUSTER 8: THE FARCE AWAKENS
Goodear replied to Johnny Sorrow's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Oh god, please tell me you saved your Nephew's "Shame on you Parv" drops. -
I think where I deviate from the workrate crowd is that I feel as though they sometimes take a myopic view of wrestling in a very Lance Storm-ian kind of way that ignores that there are more than one way to have a good match and tell a good story. Too often, people get caught up in the 'what' is being done instead of the 'why'. So-and-so did a moonsault off a cage! So-and-so tapped a vein and bleed all over the place! What is missing from that discussion is a look towards a narrative that makes those decisions make sense. Sabu does moonsaults off things because his character will kill himself in order to destroy you. It puts motivation behind his moves that say, Cody Rhodes doing a moonsault off a cage doesn't. Its that sort of character-driven narrative structure that makes Meng no selling moves work more than a Davey Richards or Young Buck doing the same thing. One is an invincible 290 pound wrecking machine and the other is a sub 200 pound guy who is intense. It also allows us to deviate from the formula where good matches have to have a bunch of moves or high spots when it may be more appropriate for Ric Flair to try and murder Terry Funk because he put a plastic bag over his head. It is no longer time for Ric to beg off or get thrown off the top or try to set up a small package. It's time for Ric to punch a Texan in the mouth. With this sense of direction behind us, it allows us to re-characterize good matches from being matches devoid of context to be performances informed by the characters and stories involved. Dean Malenko can be the man of 1,000 holds who doesn't show a lot of emotion most of the time until Chris Jericho pushes him too far and it is time for revenge. Earthquake can squash Hercules on the way to face Hulk Hogan in the main event. Effective in context is the new 'good'.
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BRAINBUSTER 8: THE FARCE AWAKENS
Goodear replied to Johnny Sorrow's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Parv was the greatest contestant in Brainbuster history. Just because he was so stymied by everything and talked through all of his answers and agonized over the decisions. Just a blast to listen to. -
I liked that during the main event angle that the Wyatts were there but didn't actively participate in any of the physicality. I think its tonally consistant that they would want to be present to see arch nemisis Roman Reigns get the S kicked out of him but wouldn't want to do the bidding of the corporate heirarchy of the WWE. It also let them not get fed to the Brock and they can save that interaction for the Rumble rather than blowing it off here. I liked that little bit of side story.
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Angle has a chance of squeeking into the bottom five of my list. I just don't find him interesting the majority of the time and find his style doesn't emphasis the things that I feel makes wrestling work as a performance art. He strikes me as a trumped up indy wrestler who does moonsaults and 450 splashes because they are 'cool' and not because they fit his matches or character.
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He's in the 80s for me which doesn't say as much as you would think as I'm not ranking a lot of Lucha or Japan because the styles don't appeal to me very much. I think he's got a high level of talent with lots of solid matches both as a Rocker and as a single. He's also one of the leaders of the 'wins don't matter as much as stealing the show' movement which makes me want to strangle him until his bald spot covers his whole being.
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I think the double arm DDT is kind of a miss too as it doesn't really get the 'wind up, delivery' treatment that most over face moves have. Ambrose just sorts of hits it and the crowd is sometimes slow to pick up on it being the finish. I think the headlock driver was a better finish for him but still it seems a bit off for whatever reason.
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I think if you are ever going to make Smackdown anything other than the B show that no one watches, they are going to have to give it a separate identity. I can certainly think of worse uses for that time than to highlight a hot NXT brand. I think since NXT on the Network is such a highlight, even on tape delay, that it could be an option.
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The Dungeon was obviously Hogan's influence affecting the company. Clearly a G rated group of super villians who were never really allowed to build heat or do anything really dastardly. I think it could have worked as a Monster Society of Evil type stable where the ghosts of Hogan's past came back for vengeance. But there were too many heel stables at the time (with the Horsemen deluding the mix) and the Giant was too green to really pull off being the Final Boss of the faction. Tenta, Meng and Sullivan were all good (not great) and could have carried some of the action. The Giant showed a lot as a rookie at the time and could have been used better.
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I need to be more of a motor mouth as I tend to post once a week and sometimes its a sentance long. I suffer a lot from a sense that what I have to say isn't worth saying most of the time due to low self-esteem. So I need to put that behind me and move forward in my life in order to actually produce content.
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1991 Face Greg Valentine vs Rhythm & Blues Greg Valentine
Goodear replied to Judy Bagwell's topic in Pro Wrestling
Re-watching some of their stuff just now, RnB strikes me as a rather inoffensive scum bag/actual tough guy combination with Honky providing some sneaking and stooging and Hammer doing most of the tough guy damage. I've seen way better versions of that team obviously, but I wouldn't consider them outright bad. Greg was obviously on the down side and was stiffer (in the can't move kind of way) than in his prime obviously. He was probably best suited to be in a team at that point in his career where he could have a gimmick to ride along with. -
1991 Face Greg Valentine vs Rhythm & Blues Greg Valentine
Goodear replied to Judy Bagwell's topic in Pro Wrestling
Greg wasn't as terrible as a face as you might think. He actually had some nice fire on his comebacks and threw some okay jabs that he would never throw as a heel. I don't think his 'timber' trademark bump really translated as well to being a face as it did as a heel. His face run obviously wasn't a major success and was a brief footnote to his WWF career. On the other hand, his Rythm 'n Blues run didn't really do anything to make him look too rediculous considering the times and circumstances. I don't think either is particularly awful and worthy of scorn. There are certainly worse instances where wrestlers got terrible gimmicks and runs. -
I'm still stunned when I run into people online who consider Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle all-time greats.
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Guys hanging round in tag gear after split
Goodear replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Ricky Morton staying in his Rock'n'Roll Express gear after joining the York Foundation was what jumped out at me when this subject first came up. It just completely undercut the heel turn that he didn't bother to repackage when he had the opportunity. Robert kept the gear as well when he came back for his matches with Richard which did nothing to help the angle. This just sort of highlights the Rock'n'Rolls never wanting to evolve since the early eighties. -
Where did this "They Don't Like Owens" narrative come from? The immediate rocket to the top of NXT, the immediate feud with John Cena on the main roster, or the IC Championship run? Poor Kevin Owens? Really?
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The whole 'go away' or 'X-Pac' heat thing is such a misguided exercise in trying to explain reality to fit your perception. If you want someone to go away so badly that you boo them, you can expect WWE is going to keep them around for the reaction. If you think that crowd is not going to lose its collective mind on a Eva Marie near fall you are out of your gourd.