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    Brock Lesnar

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    I think this misses the point being made when someone talks about how important how he was treated and presented by the WWE in his post 2012 run is. Many wrestlers get pushed but very few get to have the advantage of their aura being increased by being allowed to break the company's usual rules, which made him totally unique in that environment. Brock felt like an unbelievable spectacle in the 2010s because of a combination of his own talent and being allowed to do things that the WWE would not allow anyone else to do. The two biggest matches for making Brock what he was in the 2010s were the Cena matches at extreme rules 2012 and summerslam 2014, both of these were structed in a way that WWE never presents matches which is why they are so memorable. Although less impactful the two Brock-Goldberg matches from late 16-early 17 are good almost entirely due to not fitting in with typical WWE at the time, if main events even occasionally were 90 second squash upsets or 5 minutes of only finishers neither of these matches would be good at all. Brock deserves some of the credit for being such a spectacle in the 2010s, but so does the fact that he was presented so differently from everyone else in WWE in a era where most of the product was formulaic. How to split that credit is a tough decision for me to make.
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    WALTER

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    Do you think if CM Punk and Daniel Bryan weren't at least moderate successes WWE would've hired Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Chris Hero, Austin Aries, Jon Moxley, Tyler Black, Ricochet, PAC, Prince Devitt, Kevin Steen or El Generico? Probably not. We can say Bryan and Punk were successful because of their talent allowing the cream to rise to the top, but if they just happened to be not as good why should that reflect on all these other wrestlers' ability?
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    I really thought Hogan's last match was the embarrassing TNA PPV blood bath with Sting where Hogan wore kneepads over jeans. So thanks for letting know it was a house show 6 man tag.
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    Hate to see death even of someone who was a shithead both personally and professionally. Great at certain aspects of pro-wrestling, awful at certain aspects of pro-wrestling. One of the most historically important wresters of all time.
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    Blue Panther

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    He wants to and when he's wrestling outside of Mexico he can do it no problem, he apparently had to get special permission from the commission to wear it for the Danielson/BCC matches.
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    I absolutely loved the first and second fall of this, some of the best lucha matwork type stuff I can remember seeing. The third you would think should have what it needs in place to make this a classic match with Brazo fighting through the leg injury but ultimately coming short, but the 3rd fall felt very plodding to me and I don't think Oro being a dumbass who goes for a backbreaker using his injured knee costing him the match is a good finish at all. ***3/4
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    A very interesting 1 & 2 to have, never considered for a second anyone would have Ozaki as a number 1 candidate. But I personally think she is better than LA Park and she will make my top 100.
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    I think we can infer from from HeadCheese's post that they likely hold the pretty common view that Samoa Joe was great until 08ish, not good from 09 until leaving WWE, and great again after joining AEW. Do you think Samoa Joe was not much better in for example 2022 & 2023 than he was ten years earlier in 2012 & 2013? And if you do think he was better in those later years, does it not contradict your view that he is "a perfect example of someone becoming worse because of being worn down by age and injuries."
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    I'm not treating it much differently to wrestlers who have shorter careers overall, or periods of their careers where we're missing footage. I think if they're good enough to rank based on the good stuff we have they'll make it for me, even if they have down periods too.
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    Well mammouth is just the French word for mammoth. So the name is supposed to mean a wooly mammoth.
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    Very fun for the first ten minutes until Cole gets the big lead with the three straight fall. Then goes quickly into time killing mode. Sami suplexing Cole straight onto the one fan who stayed in his chair when they were fighting outside was pretty funny and also probably a bad idea realistically. This match has more peoples elbows than the HHH-Rock Iron Man match. I was thinking this match had two of the worst canadian destroyers I’ve ever seen. Until about 55 minutes in Adam Cole hits a canadian destroyer that blows the other two completely out of the water, barely rotating enough to not land back first on the mat. Not the worst 60 minute match I’ve seen because I think Cole’s character stuff keeps the slow parts from being too boring. *3/4
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    This is the absolute highlight of the match for me. The combination of the fact that it totally caught me by surprise, plus the amazing atheticism and balance topped off with Nick's shit eating grin when he looks back at Uno after he pulls it off. An amazing spot in a match that otherwise did not blow my socks off.
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    Never have I seen a match where blood made more of a difference to the crowd reaction than this, they were dead before it and on fire once Cole starts bleeding. Adam Cole as babyface against a heel Kyle O'Reilly seems all backwards but it works when what they're doing is which is the better combat style MMA vs Pro-Wrestling, the idea of pro-wrestling is the babyface as much as Cole. I love the back and forth submissions at the end. Stylistically this match is like a combination of BattlArts and 2010s PWG ****
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    I thought this was gonna be a 30 minute draw without anyone going for a pin when I realised they'd gone over 20 minutes without any pin attempts but they don't go through with that. I really like a lot of things in this match KENTA trying to open the match aggressively by going for a running bit boot on Nakajima right at the bell and Nakajima just totally sidestepping it Kobashi challenging Kensuke to a test of strength. KENTA rotates almost 450 degrees on a Kensuke clothesline from inside the ring to the outside before his heels bump the apron. KENTA whipping Nakajima into the ropes and for no reason just running into Kensuke who's in his corner and knocking him off All the seconds having to break up Kobashi and Kensuke's chop fight after the match has ended. ****
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    Kendo Nagasaki

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    Oldest masked wrestler to have a match
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    Kendo Nagasaki

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    I dunno how legit that world record is. I think it’s pretty likely some grimey indie lucha shows have had an older masked wrestler working them. I don’t know for sure but neither do the Guinness record people
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    I bet if we looked into it the people who do it the most are just going to be 90s NJPW juniors and 10s NJPW wrestlers. That’s it’s just about differences in the style rather than actual mentality of the wrestlers. A place and time where the expectation is begin slow and end spectacular just causes blowing off limbwork
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    An insane spot fest full of people doing cool shit for 15ish minutes. The blown finish does definitely detract from it, but it's got so much cool stuff and Eddie heel shenanigans put a smile on my face too ***3/4
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    The mat wrestling equivalent of a spot fest in the sense that it has no narrative and the entertainment is supposed to come from the cool moves. I found this boring as hell for the first half of the match before getting into it a bit more as it went along, the finish is cool but Dandy is doing the same stuff as he'd be doing 10 years earlier but at 60% speed and Navarro doesn't seem to know how to emote at all just goes from fancy submission to fancy submission (or in the first fall bland submission to bland submission). **
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    This is great. Thesz is such a fantastic prick in this, they somehow make the Harley Race style babyface just kills the heel champ for 90% of the match thing actually work. Amazing finish too.
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    Matt Hardy

    El McKell replied to Grimmas's topic in Nominees

    Just wanted to bump this thread having looked into Matt Hardy but I can't see there being any way I'll vote for him. Comparing him to Jeff my view is he's worse than him in the straight up no plunder tags, way worse than him in the the crazy stunt show tags, his equal in long singles matches and the one area he outshines Jeff is in short TV matches. The only thing Matt Hardy has done with his case since 2016 is Broken Matt stuff, which I enjoyed for the first month before it got old pretty quick. Interested to see if there's any aspect of him people want to discuss. The Matt Hardy WWECW run is probably too forgotten now for anyone to be making a case for him based on it in 2026 like people were last time around.
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    If it's a photographer's personal 8mm film collection that means no sound right?
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    Not a big enough star, historical impact case is strong but not enough on it's own, not a great performer (I know there's plenty of people here who disagree but there's not enough people who think he is some great worker)
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    I feel like the finish of this is such a damp squib compared to the rest of it which is perfectly done for the environment it's in.
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    How is this possible?
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