El McKell

Seen some awesome stuff that I didn't know anything about before this project. The best matches I never heard of that I've watched: Mayumi Ozaki vs Dynamite Kansai (street fight 03/17/95) Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee (6/6/83) Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Yuji Nagata (April 2007) Atlantis & Hijo Del Santo vs Lobo Rubio & Fuerza Guerrera

Grantland guy said it before way WWE started using it

The way I see it is, being a really good ace is a huge huge plus, if you can be the focal point of a company and perform excellently at it then obviously you've got a really strong case. Antonio Inoki like Will says is an example of an ace who doesn't perform consistently well in big matches/main events so the fact that he was an ace doesn't count for much at all. Basically I wanna rank guys who just perform well and being an ace there's a high standard of wrestling required and if you can meet that standard then you're probably gonna make my list

Was this the match from Boston in 1987? because I just watched that and thought it was really good, although I think Hogan's performance was much better than Khan's. And seeing as this is supposed to be Khan's thread; he won't be making my list only seen 5 of his matches but these are supposedly some of his best and these highs aren't close to high enough especially if he's consistently worse than that in other matches.

I don't understand how this is really a logic gap; the referee stops the match for blood, but who's even there to stop the match while the referee is down?

Is Cena the first WWF/WWE Ace to not have a public falling out with company? I never heard of any such thing with Bob Backlund, but maybe I just don't know about it.

Most people who watch lots of wrestling aren't aware there is highly touted El Dandy stuff, I wasn't until I signed up for this website.

Couldn't agree more with this. I loved everything he did during this time. From trashing merch stands because of the John Cena merch, to showing up in a confederate uniform to secede from the WWE Universe or my personal favourite: "let's watch the trailer for the new John Cena movie" *looks directly at the camera* "I want my son back!" and Cena just looks like he doesn't even get it. Amazing.

I don't think this is that important in this case, there's almost zero chance that if what Punk said wasn't true that he is unaware it wasn't true.

These title reigns were with the secondary championship. The name of the belt doesn't mean they were the top guy or even close

1) Most Valuable Wrestler Shinsuke Nakamura 2) Best In-Ring Wrestler AJ Styles 3) Best Tag Team Young Bucks 4) Most Entertaining Wrestler Shinsuke Nakamura 5) Most Improved Wrestler Rusev Rusev was cripplingly bad in NXT last year and pretty damn good this year. Charlotte and Banks also improved a lot but Rusev stands out to me. 6) Best Non-Wrestler Stephanie McMahon At her best I thought she was really amazing, some of the stuff leading into the Brie Bella match was so great. Heyman was more consistant but I think Steph was better this year. 7) Best Match Wyatt Family vs The Shield (WWE 2/23) 8) Best Feud Daniel Bryan vs Authority Really good feud and basically all the bad parts of it were in 2013. 9) Best Moment of 2014 Daniel Bryan winning the WWE World Title 10) Who to Watch in 2015 Kota Ibushi This is a weird one because even though I suspect Ibushi will have the best year of the nominees in 2015, I don't think he'll have a breakout year where he becomes a real top guy in NJPW. His 2015 might not be that different from his 2014 minus the concussion and it'd still be awesome.

Theyre never really on Youtube, but you can get all of Dragon Gate's big shows and most of DDT's on Dailymotion

One little thing I wanna say as a positive for Dynamite in the Tiger Mask series is that I love at the beginning of their first match when Tiger Mask starts breaking out all his wacky kicks, Dynamite's body language is amazing he's clearly both confused and scared and doesn't know what he should do and I think doing this was a great way of making Tiger look like something different and special just a few seconds into his debut

I'd vote for Bull

I know this has nothing to do with what's actually being discussed but I'd bet that this turns out to be untrue.

As far as I know they have a weekly TV show that airs late at night on a major network, which shows big matches from big events weeks after they happened and also some smaller events (korakuen hall shows etc) are broadcast live on smaller networks like Samurai TV

You know 50 Shades of Grey is a pornographic book with bondage and shit right? How do you suggest incorporating it into wrestling?

Nobody talks about either of these things. The announcers just spend women's matches making jokes or trying to promote Total Divas. But other than this point I agree with almost everything Bill said. This is the opposite of true.

The match you reviewed is the 2013 dome show, the first Okada vs Tanahashi match is in February 2012

It's all part of creating more brand awareness, the more people think about Jimmy Johns the more likely they are to buy Jimmy Johns. The target for advertising aren't people who never tried it, but more people who occasionally buy Jimmy John subs and trying to get them to have the product in their mind so they buy more often

Certainly does to TNA era Jarrett, wouldn't say so for 94/95 WWF Jarrett, I think he was usually pretty damn good there

He doesn't sound as critical about the medical stuff as he could've been If what he says is true. Punk received the fucking worst healthcare treatment I can imagine. He doesn't explicitly tie stuff together that really should've been cos I didn't cop on to how horrible it all was until like an hour after I listened -Gets concussion -Passes concussion test -Throws up every night after matches (because he's concussed) -Gets put on antibiotics -Gets MRSA (which he's more succeptable to because he's on antibiotics) -Doctor fails to diagnose him and gives him more antibiotics

It's fine, but it's way worse than the match they had during the G-1

I don't buy that as an argument, so do you think in the gifs Matt D posted those guys should like bounce off? and what take a back bump?

Well I suspect if I don't make a post here there's a good chance this thread won't ever have any posts. Natsuki*Taiyo is my favourite joshi wrestler of the 21st Century (which I realise is not a great era for joshi), she's a really fun high flier, I'm always excited by the blistering pace she tends open matches with. She also gets points for the way she makes good use of her tiny size ways most people don't, like the way she kinda runs up from mat to middle rope to top rope or the way she gets people up for her sitout powerbomb which I can't really describe. Links to a few matches: vs Yuhi: youtube.com/watch?v=3wR6jVvLw4M my personal favourite Taiyo match vs Io Shirai: youtube.com/watch?v=NJqUgQNml7U vs Kyoko Kimura: youtube.com/watch?v=qCzuADG2Ud8 a fun brawl type thing around koruken Nanae Takahashi, Natsuki*Taiyo, & Yoko Bito vs Kyoko Inoue, Keiko Aono, & Sareee: youtube.com/watch?v=QdDl04BPPr8 A trios match in which I think Natsuki is the standout