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I've legit been trying to figure out a less appealing looking match to me then those 4 getting to work 60 minutes and I legitimately cannot do it. I might hate watch this thing because fuck it.
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PWO Live Event Results for the Week of August 9th through August 15th, available at PWOWrestling.com August 12th, Live in front of 1,500 fans in Cleveland Ohio Men's Teioh defeats Estrella De Tiro (Paul London under a mask) in 8:17 with a Miracle Destiny (Chokebomb) Taka Michinoku & Sho Funaki defeat Michael Shane and Spanky in 10:40 when Michinoku hit Shane with a Michinoku Driver. Vader defeats Jody Fleisch in 5:17 when Vader countered the the 720 Phoenix DDT by turning it into a Chokeslam. La Parka defeats Shiryu in 9:14 with the La Parkinator Aja Kong defeats Meiko Satomura in 13:19 with a Backfist Sabu and the Hardy Boys defeat Chris Hero, BJ Whitmer, and Xavier w/ Prince Nana in 15:21 when Jeff Hardy pinned Whitmer after a Swanton Bomb Main Event Jushin "Thunder" Liger, Rey Mysterio Jr., and Low-Ki defeat Negro Casas, Dick Togo, and Yoshinori Ogawa in 28:27 when Low-Ki pinned Ogawa after hitting a Phoenix Splash. This was a match with tons of miscommunication, specifically with Casas and Togo having problems with each other. August 14th, Live in front of 1,300 fans in New Jersey Vader defeats Xavier w/ Prince Nana in 4:16 with a Powerbomb. In an impromptu match, Vader defeats BJ Whitmer w/ Prince Nana in 3:12 with a Chokeslam In another impromptu match, Vader defeats Prince Nana in 16 seconds with a Powerbomb. Spike Dudley defeats Chris Hero in 13:11 after he hit the Acid Drop Atlantis defeats Christopher Daniels in 12:58 with a La Magistral cradle. The Hardy Boys defeat Taka Michinoku and Sho Funaki in 14:51 when Matt Hardy pinned Taka Michinoku after rolling out the back of Michinoku Driver and rolling into a Cradle. Yoshinori Ogawa defeats Samoa Joe in 8:12 with a rollup with a handful of rights. Sabu, Rey Mysterio Jr, Low-Ki, and Super Crazy defeat Jushin "Thunder" Liger, Yoshihiro Tajiri, Dick Togo, and Negro Casas in 31:02 when Super Crazy pinned Tajiri with a Moonsault. Things got moderately heated in this match between a few people, with Tajiri and Crazy reunining there old rivalry, and Togo and Casas having problems getting along once more.
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I think Bryan’s run has done a couple amazing things to his case for 1st overall, but the most prominent is that any real knocks against him from the 2016 have basically been addressed. 1. Was never actually able to get legit heat as a top end heel: this one felt kind of iffy to me originally, but the Planets Champion run, and finishing it with a legitimate great title change to Kofi, a wrestler that never had a match close to as good as there Mania match. 2. Was part of some good heel tag matches. This is a weird one, but when I was trying to come up with holes in Bryan’s game, I thought it was interesting I couldn’t think of a real good tag performance of his as a heel. But I think his team with Rowan did a good deal to convince me it was more an opportunity thing then anything.
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God dammit. Stupid autocorrect
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Thought Jericho looked like dog shit in the main event, being honest. His Dragon Screw sells were bad and he clearly fell the wrong way on the roll up at the finish, I've seen Orange do that move before.
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PWO: Outlaw Wrestling Episode 2, August 9th 2000, Live from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Results PWO World Title Tournament First Round Match: Negro Casas defeats Matt Hardy with a Victory Roll while holding down the ropes in 14:12 The Haas Brothers defeat Two Local Competitors (Izzy and Deranged) in 4:13 PWO World Title Tournament First Round Match: Dick Togo defeats Atlantis in 9:16 with a Top Rope Senton Taka Michinoku & Sho Funaki defeat Low-Ki and Homicide in 13:31 when Taka Michinoku hits Homicide with the Michinoku Driver II Rey Mysterio Jr defeats Chris Hero in 9:12 with a Diving Top Rope Rana Jushin "Thunder" Liger defeats Christopher Daniels in 8:41 with a Running Ligerbomb Main Event: PWO World Title Tournament First Round Match, Impromptu No Disqualification Match: Sabu defeats Jeff Hardy in 14:51 via pinfall after Jeff Hardy missed a Swanton Bomb of a Ladder through a Table. Notes: Ricky Steamboat announces in via a vote from the Owners Committee of PWO, Rey Mysterio Jr. and Jushin "Thunder" Liger have been cleared to both move onto round 2, in a Triple Threat Match, by a Vote of 3-2. Liger and Mysterio's opponent, as well as the brackets for the tournament, still remain unannounced. The Main Event was main No Disqualification when Jeff Hardy specifically asked for it going into the main event. The match was a crazy spectacle, with Tables, Chairs, and Ladders involved. At the end of the match, Matt ran out to check on his brother, and Jeff shook Sabu's hand after th match.
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Glad to take part in the first joint show, and it seems like it would be a super fun card overall. Martel and Grenier is a super fun heel team at this era with a cool mentor/student feel to it, and them as threads to Yone and Awesome is a good play. The Hardys/Triple Threat match would be quite a spectacle, and good to see my boys scoring a big win. Also nice to see Togo and Shiryu get a good showing, while building up the interesting Jannetty/Aguayo team. And I imagine that main event would be an absolutely crazy brawl that would be awesome fun.
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This email was posted on the Pro Wrestling Outlaws website, pwoutlaws.com, talking about there planned Live Event calender" PWO Live Event and VHS Pre-Orders Now! We over at Pro Wrestling Outlaws are pleased to announce that our live events, which will be starting up this week on Wednesday, will be available to be purchased on our website at launch of promotion! In order to bring as much action to fans as possible, we will be recording our live events for any and all fans who wish to watch the action in any of our main homes, with commentary for multiple languages on release! All PWO Live Shows will be recorded with 1 Hard Camera over the ringside area as well as 2 camcorders ringside to offer you, our fans, the best quality release footage possible! Deals for these Tapes will be sold as 15 dollars for 1 show, 25 for 2, or a full months worth of shows for 50 dollars! We will have commentary done in English, Spanish, and Japanese, out as little as 2-3 weeks after the events! And if you choose to commit to us at a 500 dollar mark, we will automatically send a years worth of shows, one every month, no promises, as well as free tickets to a show of your choice, as well as an Autographed picture from any wrestler you choose on the roster! Please contact us either via our work phone listed on our website, or work email of [email protected].
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- The early reports out of PWO is they were overall pretty happy with how the first show went. There was some worry having so few favorites from the Philly area would limit the crowd, which is part of the reason they felt the need to push to bigger matches on the card, specifically Liger/Mysterio. The decision to run that match so early into the promotion was determined to be a must to try to keep people invested with the first show, and not lose new fans before they can properly develop. - The power structure of the promotion seems to be in a weird state. Steamboat is the on screen "authority", but is actually somewhat detached from the actual running of the company. His main involvement was helping get ins to the Charlotte territory, and help in signing the Hardys, who Steamboat is somewhat taking under his wing. The main people behind the promotion seem to be Negro Casas, Jushin Liger, and Sabu, which is an odd bunch. Akira Taue is part owner, but at the moment he is more focused on setting things up on the Japanese front, and Negro Casas has helped bring in El Hijo Del Santo to try to set up there situation in Mexico. It's widely accepted in the locker room though that Casas, Liger, and Sabu will be travelling with the company no matter where they are "Touring" at the time. - Speaking of the touring element, we have officially gotten word that Taue and Liger have officially set up the first tour, starting on September 21st. The tour is expected to last 6 weeks, and the company is trying to get as many talents they can for the tour to give the promotion a good start in the territory. - The promotion has also been very quick to try to get on good terms with it's neighbors. Negro Casas specifically seemed to take over negotiations with Cam-Am Pro, and they have apparently gone very well, with it looking like a long term partners. They also have gotten off to good start Grind Time, who the leadership views as a promotion incredibly similar to them, and have came to the mindset that they are much better off making friends then making enemies.
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PWO: Outlaw Wrestling Episode 1, August 2nd 2000, Live from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania The show The show opens with Mike Tenay and Bobby Heenan welcoming everyone to PWO. Tenay hypes up the the workers, while Heenan seems decently reluctant in his new atmosphere, talking about how much of a madhouse this place is. Ricky Steamboat makes his way to the ring to a good reaction, and he welcomes everyone to PWO. He said tonight they would see 4 first round matches in the World Title Tournament, but explains they are not announcing brackets to keep things lively. As he's finishing that description, a man walks down to the ring, who some fans recognized as The Sinister Minister. He grabs a microphone, and introduces himself to the crowd as Reverend James Mitchell, and he said he's been waiting for this day for years, saying he trusts Steamboat to run a promotion that will better reflect what culture should be from previous companies in the area. Before Steamboat can even respond, the arena goes black.... and when the lights turn on, Sabu has arrived! Mitchell tries to run from the ring, but Sabu attacks him, beating him down, all while Steamboat just stands back making sure not to get involved. After Mitchell is properly beat up, Steamboat and Sabu stare each other down, before Steamboat extends his hand.... and Sabu accepts, as Steamboat announces Sabu as the silent partner. First Match in PWO history: PWO World Title Tournament 1st Round Match Yoshihiro Tajiri vs. La Parka The first match in PWO history features 2 names pretty well known to the the average fan here in Philly. Tajiri had been developing as a local favorite, and Parka has a good deal of fame at this point in his career. Both men got positive reactions, and proceed to have a damned fun match, setting the mood for the rest of the show. They get a good amount of time, with La Parka clearly being set up as the heel being in charge of the match. Near the end, things break down and fitting more ECW tradition, and it being a La Parka match, a Chair gets involved. With the ref knocked down, Parka goes for a Chair Shot on a kneeling Tajiri... Only to be met by the Green Mist! Tajiri hits a sharp Brainbuster as the ref comes to, and scores the 3 count Winner and moving onto the second round in 11:41: Yoshihiro Tajiri Blue Panther & Shiryu (Kaz Hayashi) vs. Super Crazy and Atlantis Super Crazy is by far the most well known of the guys included in this match, and is getting the best reaction. Panther and Atlantis have some fun mat exchanges to open the match to familiarize them with the crowd. During this match, Tenay announced that this is a preview of a tournament match, as it was formally announced that Blue Panther and Super Crazy will square off for Cam-Am Pro in a PWO World Title Tournament 1st Round Match. Panther gets the one up in this one however, as Super Crazy misses a Moonsault onto Panther, who quickly hit a La Magistral for the win. Winners in 9:02: Blue Panther and Shiryu Title Tournament 1st Round Match Taka Michinoku vs. Low-Ki Low-Ki is hyped up by Tenay as one of the top young talents coming up in wrestling today, and one of the most explosive athletes wresting has potentially ever seen, and he gets some early moments to really show it off, hitting a Handspring Jumping Enziguri into the Corner, and Springboard Enziguri for close near falls early. But Taka is a vet at this point, and Ki hasn't really faced anyone of his level before. Eventually, Taka sets Ki up for the Michinoku Driver, but Ki surprises him by sliding out and applying what Tenay informs us is the Dragon Clutch, including a Body Scissors to drag Taka off his feet. After about 10 seconds of trying to fight it off, Take is forced to tap, giving Low-Ki the biggest victory of his young career Winner in 8:51 and moving onto the second round: Low-Ki The Hardy Boys vs. Michael Shane and Spanky The Hardys got a huge pop, one of the largest of the night, as they seem to be one of the fastest rising acts in wrestling. They are opposed by two young wrestlers representing the Texas Wrestling Acadamy, the school of Shawn Michaels, and they seem like a very cocky duo. The Hardys have the crowd and experience behind them, but the youngsters put in a good showing, controlling Jeff after Shane dodged a Twisting Moonsault from Jeff. But eventually Jeff manages to make the hot tag on Matt, and after disposing of Shane, The Hardys put away Spanky with a Twist of Fate and Swanton Bomb Winners in 7:14: The Hardy Boys Title Tournament 1st Round Match Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Christopher Daniels An interesting dynamic as neither guy was particularly well known. Ogawa had been an All Japan lifer before the great split, but has never really worked the States. Daniels is another top up and comer from the indy scene, looking for his big break. And this match is worked as two babyfaces doing babyface stuff: handshaking before the match, technical ring work, and the crowd in Philly is kinda not buying what they are selling to a degree. Eventually Daniels has taken control and has him set in a double underhook pedigree position, but Ogawa lowers his head and ends up headbutting Daniels low. Daniels is stunned, and Ogawa quickly rolls him up into a Small Package for a cheap victory, which actually gets some applause. Winner in 9:30 and moving onto the second round: Yoshinari Ogawa Before the Main Event can start, Spike Dudley makes his way to the ring, and claims that he came to Pro Wrestling Outlaws to find the biggest dog in this yard and show him he's the real biggest man in the company. That led to a giant pop as Vader made his way to the ring! Spike Dudley vs. Vader A total and complete demolition here, as Spike tries to attack Vader, and Vader proceeds to beat the piss out of him. Spike keeps trying to lock the head to set up the Acid Drop, but everytime he does, Vader just shoves him off and beats him more. Eventually Vader hits a Vader Bomb and gets an easy 3. Winner via pinfall in 3:52: Vader Main Event Title Tournament 1st Round Match Jushin “Thunder” Liger vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. Both Liger and Rey got huge pops on their entrances, and the crowd is buzzing for getting to watch this matchup. Unlike the earlier match with the face/face dynamic, this one the crowd seems to buying into a lot more, already liking both masked men. And this is what you'd want from these 2, a highly competitive match with lots of back and forth. At about the 15 minute mark Liger starts taking control. Every time Liger goes for a finishing blow, Rey has a counter, and Liger has to completely give up on the Ligerbomb after Rey has Rana'd his way out 3 times. Liger even tries to bust out a Shooting Star Press at the 29 minute mark, but Rey gets the knees up, and the 30 minute time limit 30 Minute Time Limit Draw After the match, Rey offers Liger a handshake, and Liger seems to think about it for a long while, before agreeing to shake it.
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This entire project was worth it just for that image. Holy shit.
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Breaking News: Announcement of "Pro Wrestling Outlaws" In a press conference this evening in Charlotte, Akira Taue, Jushin "Thunder" Liger, and Negro Casas were joined by the apparent center piece of the rumored alliance, by the surprise of the evening, one Ricky Steamboat. Steamboat explained that they and a silent partner have made the decision the best way forward for the wrestling industry worldwide is to align there interests, trying to get as many top young talents and talented wrestlers they could under the banner of one company, which they have called "Pro Wrestling Outlaws", often just calling themselves "OUTLAW" for short. Steamboat laid out the plans for the company in with a clear mindset to run shows all over the the Carolina's, Ohio, and specifically in Philly and Jersey, but they also plan to be running constant shows in Japan and Mexico as well. However, while the live shows will run consistently, there main talent base will generally stick together in the different areas they will be "touring". The plan is to run there first 6 weeks of television (Which will be airing on networks of some repute in all 3 countries) from the United States, before heading to Mexico to run 6 weeks, and then Japan for the same, to give the company a base in all 3. Steamboat was also pleased to announce that there first live show, which will be aired live in the United States and filmed to be ran in Mexico and Japan with alternate commentary, would be coming up on the 3rd of August. Steamboat announced the start of the OUTLAW World Championship Tournament, which will include 16 competitors, including Liger and Casas themselves. Taue was sad to report he was having Visa issues and will instead be focusing on solidying the company in Japan and thus will not be included. But, they did announce a slew of names, from Dick Togo coming in from Japan, as well as beloved luchadors Blue Panther and Atlantis, top young independent talent like Christopher Daniels, and even some bigger names like Rey Mysterio Jr. Steamboat also went into detail that they will reveal the silent partner he talked about earlier in the interview on the show as well.
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What a freaking talent base you are working with here man. Like the tape trades would be trading any show you run around like candy on Halloween. Super Excited to see the direction.
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Larry Z is a great commish choice for any fed, especially of his popularity in late WCW. Really like your start and am excited for the tournament.
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I don't think there's any hiding that our mindsets on this draft was very similar, to the point me and you might even be something akin to sibling promotions, and I'm super interested to see the directions you go. You already have a fantastic roster of young up and comers combined with really good top talent. Being honest, I'm rooting for Regal in the tournament. I think he'd nail the Heel Ace role and we never got to see it.
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I'm trying to pick out which disguise Vince using would be most fun. Really looking forward to whats going on up Northwest!
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You might have the most intriguing roster going in this little game, because you can go so many weird directions. I can't wait to see the direction your going from here!
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God, what a great roster to run a fed with. Really strong opening too, the name is super clever and super Bischoff.
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With the wrestling world in total chaos, there have been reports of many small feds forming to answer the opening. With the Mexican scene struggling with the larger feds deaths, it appears that the legendary Negro Casas has taken it upon himself to try to bring the industry back to it's feet. Casas has been trying to push for as many of the top Luchadors in the country to unite under his banner, promising good pay days and growth for more future paydays, claiming he has a deal in place to help the talent gain greater exposure outside of Mexico. Meanwhile, while the wrestling news that has been dominant out East has been the formation of U-COSMOS, their has been a quiet undercurrent of news coming out of Yokohama. Jushin "Thunder" Liger has apparently been in contact with many top junior heavyweights in the wrestling world, trying to make arrangements to find housing in the Yokohama area. Meanwhile, while many expected Akira Taue to either join the U-COSMOS with his old tag partner in Kawada, or follow Kobashi and Misawa to the United States, but the rumor has it he has put money down into a promoters license. This news seemed straight forward enough, except for a very surprising development. Taue and Liger were seen on a long international flight to the United States last night, apparently heading to the Charlotte area. Even more surprising then the two making there way stateside, is that they were seen by a fan waiting for a flight to arrive, and greeted one Negro Casas, also making his way to the area. The 3 men were seen leaving in a shared vehicle. Breaking News: Press Conference to be Held Tomorrow!
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And none of his tag teams were as good as as the Kings of Wrestling. Hell, Beer Money wasn't as good of a tag team as Kidd and Cesaro. If you want to name some contenders here, you'd want guys who have had great tag matches with multiple partners in multiple settings in multiple roles. I'd look more Roderick Strong then James Storm, for example. You could also make a decent case for the Briscoes, if you wanted.
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Yeah, Eaton basically eliminates Claudio from this conversation. He had all time tag teams with Condrey and Lane, one of the most under rated teams of all time with Koko. None of Claudio's teams touch those, and I love Claudio. Hell, honestly I think the Bar overall was a giant letdown of a team, and it always felt like those 2 should have worked much better then they actually did.
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I have gone on the record that when we do this again in 2026, Bryan is my one vote with a bullet. The diversity of his matches, of the roles he can play, and his range of opponents he got something at minimum something good with is crazy. Actually expanding, out of the guys who are active from the Top 100, I’m not sure how many of them even raised there case in the last 4 years. From 100-1 Virus- I haven’t seen enough from him recently but I would assume stock up. Matt, have you been watching enough to be able to tell if he’s still putting in great work? LA Park- Stock the same, I would imagine. Some great stuff spread around in between him picking his spots. Shinsuke Nakamura- Stock Down. He was a flawed case but the highs were so high, and the last voting period was perfect for him. I couldn’t see him making the list again if it was now, let alone 5 years from now. Sami Zayn- Stock Down. He still might be the best NXT baby face ever, and he’s been fun as a heel, but he was just a background player overall. Cesaro- Stock Down, maybe stock the same. Felt like he was a couple big years away from moving high on this. But the Bar always felt like it should have been better, and while he’s been fun for a while, I think adding more years without tons of high end work hurts him more then helps. His moment is going the wrong way. Hiroshi Tanahashi- Stock up. I’m not a fan, but people on this board have argued he has had a better career then Bryan. I think they are crazy, but there are probably enough that put him super high that top 50 is reasonable expectation if I had to guess. Chris Jericho: Stock up, Id think. I’m not a big Jericho guy and didn’t vote for him last go around, but I’d be more open to having him in a bottom 10 type spot now by a long shot. The opposite of Nakamura, as 2016 was probably the worst time to evaluate Jericho when he and AJ were stinking up the place. Samoa Joe- Stock up, a bit. He had the stuff with Lesnar which made the WWE run worth it. You can argue he was the best guy in the company at selling a program with just mic work, which not everyone will evaluate, but some will. It’s a debate as I didn’t like his NXT work but thought he was generally always a main show highlight. Brock Lesnar- Fuck if I know. He’s had amazing performances and he’s been an act I’m completely over, sometimes at the same time. I agree with Matt’s general take on Brock, but the Bryan, Balor, and Styles matches were super fun. He works amazing as an imposing bully against a smaller baby face, but in almost any other role he seems to just mail it in. If he got top 50 again I wouldn’t be shocked. AJ Styles- Stock up, minimally. I think AJ is very good and was in the running for best worker in WWE for a couple years, but I don’t know how he can reasonably climb much higher then what he was last time at 39. Maybe in the 30-35 range, because while he has some highs, he also had stuff that didn’t click like it should have. Dustin Rhodes; Stock stays the same. He’s still capable of something great, and is a rock solid TV guy, but I don’t think he’s really gained positions. Maybe he gets to top 25, perhaps, but it’s iffy. John Cena- Stock stays the same. If you like super Indy Cena maybe a slight bump. For me it actually lowers him a bit. But he’s in the right area already to me. Rey Mysterio and Justin Liger- Stock stays the same. They’ve had some great performances and certainly didn’t hurt themselves, but they needed more to move past the top 5 or so. I think you can maybe argue Rey passes Liger, but these are still the top 2 pure Juniors. Daniel Bryan- Stock up, I think. Not much, what with already being 5th. But I would expect him to actually finish top 3 if we did this again. I think he passes Misawa, and at least one of Hansen and Flair: I am of the opinion the only person more likely to finish 1st in 2026 over Bryan is Funk.
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Also, his original story was that he “considered” filing a restraining order against her and she has been stalking him since 2017. Then it was revealed he was having an affair with her in 2019. Lying like that brings basically all of his story into a gigantic question, we’re as the accuser has had the same story, unchanged, the entire time. Really not looking good for Riddle.