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Mox's punches and often kicks have always been dogshit

Seemed like a dick move to do it on TV instead of in the back unless they're going to make an angle of it.

Seemed weird to me too, but fuck the world Punk talking that shit was what I've been waiting on for a year now. That whole thing was delightful.

The only time I've been impressed with Eddie Gilbert was with Lawler, and the list of guys with less skill and talent than Gilbert that King made look great is impossible to calculate.

It isn't a modern thing, though. That's been a talking point online since the late 90s/early 00s if not earlier

I've never understood the quiet Japanese crowds deal. Going back to even the JWA days are some of the hottest crowds anywhere. Maybe a more respectful crowd in terms of jeering and heckling, but not quiet.

Yeah the Mortis/Wrath vs Glacier/Cat feud is one of those undercard feuds that seem like they should be stupid waste of time (and especially how it fit into the nWo era landscape of WCW) but turns out to be a lot of fun because the matches were surprisingly good.

Both routinely would go on so long being as glass gargling as possible that they'd be losing their voice by the end of the promos. Every week! Shit was brutal on both shows. Unrelated, WCW should have kept up with the fledgling "martial arts division" they were testing out in 1998. There were some nifty little shootstyle matches for a couple of weeks. Certainly the best Ernest Miller ever looked.

I have to wonder if there is a single good match or promo during the entirety of the original Hollywood Hogan run. Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of was against Macho at HH 1996. He's consistently if not the worst, at least bottom two-three segments of every show every week. Just straight up comically bad, which could be enjoyable for lulz if he wasn't positioned the way he was and given those weekly rambling promos about nothing. In fact, I might go so far as to say that quality wise (in terms of promos and matches), the 1996-1998 Hollywood Hogan run might be the worst major heel run of all time. Really felt like Hogan and HBK were seeing who could outdo the other with the longest promos without saying shit.

I'm nervous for Sting/Brody interactions

The complete absence of MJF chants is interesting. Fans moved on immediately.

I don't think he looked particularly big and imposing in NXT against Gargano/Cole/KOR/Balor guys. Jeff Hardy looked bigger than him and no one is ever going to say Jeff Hardy is some imposing big guy.

My issue is he's real fucking dull in the ring and in promos, and so is Bray Wyatt, and all the spooky shit WWE has done is fucking terrible. So you know if Bray is brought back, that's for sure going to be a program and it is going to be top tier Wrestlecrap.

The Kross vs Wyatt prolonged feud of spooky bullshit is going to be an all timer for worst feuds in history

He didn't come off as an antihero to me specifically. I know fans were cheering, but to me, he came off like a bit of a shithead who obviously was going to get a giant contract when reup came and tanked it for himself out of jealousy. I would compare it to a rookie NBA/NFL contract for a guy who ends up becoming a superstar and parlays that into a massive contract for his second deal. I don't think real sports renegotiate contracts mid season, either.

I don't think MJF comes off as an antihero at all in that whole situation. MJF's "pipebomb" was ultimately bitching about money against a face promotor/company, unlike Punk's which was about a lot more than money and was against a promotor/company that was heel.

Mox flipping Punk off and walking off is 100% in line with Moxley's character and recent promos getting more and more pissed at the "interim" title.

These Brody/Darby matches have been more violent and visceral than any shitty deathmatch I've seen

Dying that Jericho working like Lionheart Chris Jericho is working exactly the same as 50 year old Jericho but while doing really shitty looking lucha submissions

I don't think it is a coincidence that the build to Starrcade 1997 goes completely off the rails 4-5 weeks before the event, right as Eric Bischoff decides to book himself in a match. Things are going real strong right up to that point, then everything gets real sloppy and messy in all angles. Not even talking about the execution of the event itself, but just the last 4-5 weeks before the show are so haphazard. It's wild to me there is literally no mention of Thunder debuting until the Nitro the same week. Also I find something humorous about Benoit's theme having a cowbell in it.

It ramped up to make Shield attacks look more chaotic, not to make sure no one saw Roman botching lmao

Is Craig Leathers still around somewhere

Attitude Era Boss Man with the work rate of 88-93ish Boss Man would be the GOAT heel in American pro wrestling

That's a weird tact to take because it erases WWE's own history of Shea Stadium shows and 20+ years of running MSG by the time VKM took over the company.

Billy and Chuck is the best run of Billy's career imo. Although I can't really pick out a single match of theirs as memorable. I also can't for the Smoking Gunns nor the NAO besides the dumpster match. The fakeout with Billy and Chuck was a real misstep, as the audience was actually supportive of them by the time of the marriage deal, and that completely died on the vine after that. But I'm also a big Chuck Palumbo mark and think he got the rawest of deals in the WCW buy out and think he would have been a top guy for years in WCW otherwise.