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I'll have to check out the RNR and Pillman/Z matches. Were they on Clash/PPV or regular TV? Shout out to Ron Simmons actually inventing the Stunner in the series with the Steiners.

Really liked what I've seen of his Mid South work, but man his WWF run and pre and post Doom singles runs in WCW leave a very, very poor impression. Even as part of Doom, I can't think of anything worthwhile besides the two matches with Horsemen units and the Steiner matches which aren't really anything great but are fun hosses throwing bombs matches like Steiners vs Fire and Ice a few years later.

Road Warriors vs Funks, 1986, AJPW. Hawk no sells Terry's piledriver. He then hits one on Terry. Terry then no sells it while also selling like Terry Funk while also selling like Terry Funk trying to no sell and it is the most delightful thing I've ever seen.

Has there ever been a more purely boring PPV than Battlebowl 1993? The only thing I can think of that could be duller is Survivor Series 1991.There are certainly worse PPVs in terms of awful wrestling or angles, but there can usually be some kind of entertainment value squeezed out of something like Uncensored 1995 or even Russo era WCW PPVs. The only thing remotely decent is Flair/Austin vs Scorp/Payne which is essentially a 15 minute handicap match of Flair/Austin as a bickering but pretty decent team in a handicap match with Scorp. I love the Lethal Lottery concept but man has it just never produced anything worth a shit.

The crash pad was unfortunate in how it came off, but that was the least of the issues involving Jericho in that match, which were pointed out in the moment as him being absolutely fucking terrible like he had completely forgotten how to wrestle in front of an audience or on TV despite being a 30 year vet. I can't imagine how much post production work he's forced upon the team in taped matches to make him not look like dogshit.

Moxley vs MJF and Moxley vs Kingston were PPV main events last year Surely Omega vs PAC/OC are on the level of those

KO isn't physically imposing and since when is he considered some tough guy shooter type?

I'm in the "Ultimo looked cool and did cool shit when I was a kid so I thought he was awesome" camp. Dude was so sloppy, matches never went anywhere. But he did do some cool movez and looked baller as hell with the J Crown.

Jericho came in as the final guy, the captain of his team, the guy with the true bloodfeud hatred, and he entered the ring with zero fire whatsoever as if it were a Dynamite match against Marko Stunt or something. The more I think about it the more I think that might have been the worst performance of Jericho's career. Just embarrassing.

Very weirdly good match: Cena vs Rene Dupree from Judgement Day 2004. It's only about 10 minutes, it is for the US Championship, and it's John Cena vs Rene Dupree, but it's very clear someone in the back worked very hard to lay out a match to make still green Cena look like he could produce a late 70s/early 80s Mid Atlantic style match. Especially notable as I don't think Rene has anything worth watch in WWE besides this, and both guys were still very green, and this type of match just wasn't happening in WWE anymore/at all. It's really one of the very few really solid matches from the Thuganomics period.

What if Jericho is the problem all together, not production, not giant lolsy crash pads. Just Jericho seemingly having completely forgotten how to be a pro wrestler.

The finish was fine and really probably the best thing they could have done, particularly for the MJF character. The execution was laughable dogshit not unlike the barbed wire match dud. They have to stop with these big stunt bumps, they've looked minor league every single time.

There's no way to hide Jericho dropping selling completely and literally pointing people to spots they need to be in for the next spot or holding is hand up with the blade in it for 2 minutes while in a submission other than to just not have the cameras on him.

Hopefully Jericho is written off for 6 months (preferably forever) and Swagger can retire or something and Sammy/LAX can go their own way and actually not have to be bogged down by Jericho shit.

Man that looked terrible. Lmao. Jericho was so bad. Does he not realize he's on TV and everyone can see him blatantly calling his spots and blatantly getting his blade and blatantly holding it for MINUTES waiting to use it for a spot, blatantly getting into position and telling people to get into position?

Throwing Jericho off the cage would be a face turn for me

Jericho fucking sucks in this. Dude literally blatantly holding the blade in his hand the whole time up there. Looking gassed to hell before he even did any spots.

Lmao this is the 4th break for this match and they actually cut away from the last PIP to do different commercial break.

I can't believe TK didn't get a deal worked out to present this commercial free.

Shame he looks like a teenager in that get up

Lol at how often they have said Dusty created this match and literally are referring to specific War Games matches as Blood & Guts matches while Jericho was swearing up and down it wasn't War Games and they weren't just calling it something different due to trademarks.

Imagine a War Games with the old blue bar WWF cage

All the heels in white, match is gonna be bloodbath

I want to see Mark become mini Brian Cage

I would like to see Marko Stunt get on a heavy deca cycle and become a muscle freak power wrestler